mcelog error messages.

2010-02-12 Thread reg
On 64bit Fedora 11, I see the error message /etc/cron.hourly/mcelog.cron: mcelog: warning: record length longer than expected. Consider update. hourly. Is there an update for the program /usr/sbin/mcelog somewhere??? I see on google that the record length is 88 rather than the

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:28 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 03:31 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > BTW the OP didn't say whether his mail is on an IMAP server or not. This > > > could possibly be rel

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread jdow
From: "Marko Vojinovic" Sent: Friday, 2010/February/12 20:12 > On Saturday 13 February 2010 00:09:38 Suvayu Ali wrote: >> On Friday 12 February 2010 06:06 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> > Now, hard links are not allowed for directories since they would allow >> > for creation of loops (a director

preupgrade reboot, won't complete upgrade, same old FC, etc: solution

2010-02-12 Thread S. Robert Cube
Multiple threads appear to have run into a similar problem with preupgrade: it seems to run fine, but won't complete the install upon reboot. This might work for you. I'm running a multiboot system, and I have the /boot file on a separate partition. Preupgrade seems to assume you're using the l

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread g
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > cat > foo & > rm foo > lsof +L1 -s > > When I do this the "cat" process shows up (and foo is marked as > deleted). You can then reconnect to "cat" (using fg) and write stuff > into the "non-existent" file. 'cat > foo &', will create a file 'foo' in directory and in b

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 08:12 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Saturday 13 February 2010 00:09:38 Suvayu Ali wrote: >> On Friday 12 February 2010 06:06 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >>> Now, hard links are not allowed for directories since they would allow >>> for creation of loops (a directory cont

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 07:45 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:20 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: >>> $ fg %1 >>> cat> foo >>> testing deleted files >>> ^Z >>> [1]+ Stopped cat> foo >>> $ lsof +L1 -s >>> COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NLINK NODE

can I use preupgrade w/out a wired ethernet connection via internet sharing?

2010-02-12 Thread S. Robert Cube
I'm trying to use preupgrade to upgrade my desktop FC10 installation. I only have a wireless network connection available in my apartment. Should I be able to do this via network sharing? IOW, can I connect my desktop to a laptop with a crossover cable, and use the laptop's wireless connection?

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 13 February 2010 00:09:38 Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 06:06 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Now, hard links are not allowed for directories since they would allow > > for creation of loops (a directory containing itself), which is a Bad > > Idea, since it breaks recurs

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:20 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 05:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:42 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: > >> On Friday 12 February 2010 04:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > >>> On Friday 12 February 2010 04:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:28 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > I'm not sure I understand what you're asking here. If something is > > decided by the kernel, surely it's universal isn't it? > > By universal I meant something determined by the filesystem. Would > the > restriction still be there if I wer

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 07:20 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 05:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:42 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: >>> On Friday 12 February 2010 04:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Friday 12 February 2010 04:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan w

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:28 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 03:31 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > BTW the OP didn't say whether his mail is on an IMAP server or not. This > > > could possibly be rel

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 05:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:02 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> On Friday 12 February 2010 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 23:23 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> [...] >> Okay, I now understand the aspect of "." and

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 05:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:42 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> On Friday 12 February 2010 04:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: >>> On Friday 12 February 2010 04:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Editors can do funny things with backup files in

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread jdow
From: "Patrick O'Callaghan" Sent: Friday, 2010/February/12 16:07 > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 15:40 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> On Friday 12 February 2010 09:19 AM, Mikkel wrote: >> > On 02/12/2010 09:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> >> >> >> lsof would allow you to find the processes that have the f

error messages from named.

2010-02-12 Thread reg
I have just setup the nameserver (named) in FC11. During the startup of the nameserver (from init.d), there is the error message: the working directory is not writable (I assume this is an error). What is it complaining about (what directory) and should I change some permissions somewhe

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2010-02-13 at 03:31 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > BTW the OP didn't say whether his mail is on an IMAP server or not. This > > could possibly be relevant. > > > > poc > > I doubt it. > I'm on POP3 (Google) and

stopping named just hangs.

2010-02-12 Thread reg
This is not a serious problem, but it is a pain in the neck. Up until today I ran named in a chroot jail, and when I did a /etc/rc.d/init.d/named stop Or when I tried to reboot the system, things hung when we got to the point of stopping named. I always assumed this had s

Video Problems In F12

2010-02-12 Thread RGH
With a fresh install (now) of F12, I am having serious video problems, both in text mode and in X. I'm getting all these flashing lines shooting across the screen. It seems like some kind of timing problem, but I did not see this with F11 or any previous version. This was originally with the n

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:42 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 04:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > > On Friday 12 February 2010 04:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> Editors can do funny things with backup files in the interests of > >> preserving your work. An easier test would be

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 16:02 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 23:23 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: > [...] > Okay, I now understand the aspect of "." and ".." being the only two > hardlinks allowed for directories. Howeve

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:31 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > BTW the OP didn't say whether his mail is on an IMAP server or not. This > could possibly be relevant. > > poc I doubt it. I'm on POP3 (Google) and I've seen this bug one why or the other since F10... Move emails between f

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 04:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 04:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> Editors can do funny things with backup files in the interests of >> preserving your work. An easier test would be: >> >> cat> foo& >> rm foo >> lsof +L1 -s >> >> When I do th

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 04:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 15:40 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> On Friday 12 February 2010 09:19 AM, Mikkel wrote: >>> On 02/12/2010 09:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: lsof would allow you to find the processes that have the files op

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 15:40 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 09:19 AM, Mikkel wrote: > > On 02/12/2010 09:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> > >> lsof would allow you to find the processes that have the files open. And > >> then > >> you could kill those processes to release t

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 06:06 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 07:23:02 Suvayu Ali wrote: >> $ ln muse test >> ln: `muse': hard link not allowed for directory >> >> So I did a little searching and found its not exactly a forbidden. So >> far the closest to an understandabl

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 18:32 -0500, John Mellor wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 14:08 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On my machine expunge in evolution-2.28.2-1.fc12.i686 is no longer > > working so the deleted messages are building up. What does one do in > > this case to fix this problem? > >

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 05:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 23:23 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> When I tried to hardlink a directory today I ran into this, >> >> $ ln muse test >> ln: `muse': hard link not allowed for directory >> >> So I did a little se

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 12 February 2010 23:40, Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 09:19 AM, Mikkel wrote: >> On 02/12/2010 09:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >>> >>> lsof would allow you to find the processes that have the files open. And >>> then >>> you could kill those processes to release the space. It

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Friday 12 February 2010 09:19 AM, Mikkel wrote: > On 02/12/2010 09:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> >> lsof would allow you to find the processes that have the files open. And then >> you could kill those processes to release the space. It looks like you should >> be able to get size infomation

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread John Mellor
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 14:08 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On my machine expunge in evolution-2.28.2-1.fc12.i686 is no longer > working so the deleted messages are building up. What does one do in > this case to fix this problem? > +++ > Expunge works in a

Video Problems After F12 Upgrade

2010-02-12 Thread rgheck
I've pre-upgraded from F11 to F12, and all went well except that I have big video problems, and maybe some others. The main issue is that there seems to be some incompatibility with the video card now. I'm getting all these flashing lines shooting across the screen, both in text mode and in X.

Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication

2010-02-12 Thread patrick . morris
Hi Sean! On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Sean Carolan wrote: > > I have UsePAM turned on, and getent group shows me in the "operations" > > group.  I wonder why sshd is not seeing that I'm in the operations > > group? > > Ok, never mind. On this particular server there was one entry in > /etc/group with m

Converting efax .efx files

2010-02-12 Thread John Poelstra
Has anyone figured out a way to convert the files created by the free faxing services from efax.com (efx format) to another format like PDF or tiff? I'm also trying to run the Windows program provided by efax under wine on Fedora 12 (i686), but the windows installer doesn't finish. John -- us

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 14:08 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On my machine expunge in evolution-2.28.2-1.fc12.i686 is no longer > working so the deleted messages are building up. What does one do in > this case to fix this problem? It's a known bug. [1] I usually hit it once a week or so. (Including

Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication

2010-02-12 Thread Sean Carolan
> If you're going to start mixing local and LDAP stuff that way, you're > going to run into some fun-to-debug strangeness if you're not careful > about them all being identical. Thanks again for your help, I have this working now. I had a comma in my AllowGroups line instead of a space. We're sl

Re: [389-users] Multiple sync aggrements between Ad and DS?

2010-02-12 Thread Rich Megginson
Theodotos Andreou wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Thanks for the reply! > > On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 08:19 -0700, Rich Megginson wrote: > >> Theodotos Andreou wrote: >> >>> Guys I' ve seen this warning on the 8.1 Administration Guide: >>> >>> WARNING >>> There can only be a single sync agreement between

Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication

2010-02-12 Thread Sean Carolan
> I have UsePAM turned on, and getent group shows me in the "operations" > group.  I wonder why sshd is not seeing that I'm in the operations > group? Ok, never mind. On this particular server there was one entry in /etc/group with my username in it, that was somehow interfering. Once I removed

Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication

2010-02-12 Thread patrick . morris
Hi Sean! On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Sean Carolan wrote: > > Is "invalid user" all you're seeing in the log? Generally, at least with > > OpenSSH, if the user is being denied because it's not in a valid group, > > the logs will say so. They'll also generally tell you if it's because it > > couldn't find

Re: expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 14:08 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Forwarded Message > From: Aaron Konstam > To: users > Subject: expunge in evolution is no longer working > Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:00:10 -0600 > > On my machine expunge in evolution-2.28.2-1.fc12.i686 is no longer > wo

Re: [389-users] Migrating to LDAP authentication

2010-02-12 Thread Sean Carolan
> For example, we might have a group called "db-ssh" that defines a user > group allowed to access database servers.  Then we just make sure DB > hosts get "AllowGroups db-ssh" added to their SSH configs.  Plopping a > user into the db-ssh group in LDAP then gives that person access to all > the bo

F12: Thunderbird account creation problems

2010-02-12 Thread Daniel Thurman
I noticed that Thunderbird has added the "smart" feature that gets "too smart" by not allowing one to add accounts for two different servers, serving DNS and Email, and with the same user accounts. For example, let's say that you have MX records: mail1.domain.com (a Windows email system/server) m

dbus error

2010-02-12 Thread A. Racca
Hi list: I have downloaded a program from gnome-look[1] and I get the following error in F12 x86_64: [ger...@centauri bin]$ python twl starting viewer process ERROR:dbus.connection:Unable to set arguments (None,) according to signature u'v': : Don't know how which D-Bus type to use to encode type

Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]

2010-02-12 Thread Mike Cloaked
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht-11 wrote: > > > It isn't that serious of a situation. One can just comment out the > offending line in /etc/named.conf and named will startup. The file > /var/log/messages will have the pathname of the include that is no > longer there and a quick scan of /etc/named.conf

Re: How do I get digital audio out to my headphones?

2010-02-12 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 05:00:52 Marcel Rieux wrote: >> Still, digital sound exists... it seems. > > I don't understand what are you trying to say. I had a short disuccion with a friend today. He's how i can sum it up. There is never

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Andrew Haley wrote: > I use the big Dell WFP3008, which doubles up pixels quite > nicely to 1280 x 800.  Mind you, are you sure you don't just > need new glasses? It's not that I can't focus. It's that I don't want to have to. Focussing all day long on text on

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Marcel Rieux wrote: >> 2010/2/12 Tobias Ringström : Thanks for the trouble but see my answer to Tobias Ringström. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.or

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Marcel Rieux
2010/2/12 Tobias Ringström : > On 02/12/2010 08:47 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: >> I'm trying in vain to get Twinview to work with NVIDIA's proprietary >> drivers. You know, images that show in a 5x4 format on my Viewsonic >> monitor showing fullscreen in 5x4 format on my Sony TV and images that >> are

expunge in evolution is no longer working-CORRECTION

2010-02-12 Thread Aaron Konstam
Forwarded Message From: Aaron Konstam To: users Subject: expunge in evolution is no longer working Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:00:10 -0600 On my machine expunge in evolution-2.28.2-1.fc12.i686 is no longer working so the deleted messages are building up. What does one do in this

expunge in evolution is no longer working

2010-02-12 Thread Aaron Konstam
On my machine expunge in evolution-2.28.2-1.fc12.i686 is no longer working so the deleted messages are building up. What does one do in this case to fix this problem? -- === Make it right before you make it faster.

Re: How do I get digital audio out to my headphones?

2010-02-12 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 12 February 2010 05:00:52 Marcel Rieux wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > On Thursday 11 February 2010 22:23:34 Marcel Rieux wrote: > > Do your headphones support digital audio? I've never seen any headphone > > model that has an integrated digital-to-an

Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]

2010-02-12 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: > On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 07:50 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> If you have already accepted this update, you can downgrade the >> package and start the failed BIND (named) daemon again using these >> commands: >> >> su -c 'yum downgrade dnssec-conf' >> su -c 'service

Re: compiz click to focus

2010-02-12 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Suvayu Ali writes: > Maybe you are seeing this bug? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532229 Could be, but the solution from the bug comments it seemed I needed to install compizconfig-backend-gconf, but that was a big noop. I'm not sure I understand what the workaround is supposed

Re: F12 and SyncMaster 2443 and 1920x1200 resolution?

2010-02-12 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Paul Erickson writes: > Has anyone been able to successfully configure F12 to support 1920x1200 > resolution with the Samsung SyncMaster 2443? You might also want to check that your hardware can do 1920x1200. Some chips will stop at 1600x1200. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht If the airwave

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Andrew Haley
On 02/12/2010 12:17 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: >> What I've been looking for, for a long time, yet am unable to find, is >> a very large, yet LOW resolution LCD display. >> >> What I would like to see are great big fat square sharp pixels, with >> great big, sharply

Re: latest F12 quckly unusable after restart

2010-02-12 Thread Paolo Galtieri
On 02/12/2010 10:01 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:28:01 -0500 (EST) > Tom Diehl wrote: > > >> KVM seems to >> aggravate the problem in that if I have virtual machines running the problem >> happens sooner. IOW I get longer uptimes between lockups if the virt machines >> are sh

Re: Left rotated display one pixel too wide

2010-02-12 Thread Tony Nelson
On 10-02-12 01:52:16, Tobias Ringström wrote: > I'm using a dual rotated 1280x1024 monitor setup with Fedora 12, and > there a funny little issue with the display size, or rather > applications idea of display size, because both the desktop > background and the GNOME Panel protrude one pixel into

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Tony Nelson
On 10-02-12 01:56:46, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > What I've been looking for, for a long time, yet am unable to find, > is a very large, yet LOW resolution LCD display. > > What I would like to see are great big fat square sharp pixels, with > great big, sharply defined and completely non-

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:59:22 -0600 Mikkel wrote: > On 02/12/2010 05:40 AM, Alan Cox wrote: > > > > You also want to avoid two disks on one cable as the IDE interface only > > allows one of them to be active at a time so its a good way to cripple > > performance. > > > Dumb question - what happe

Re: latest F12 quckly unusable after restart

2010-02-12 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 11:28 -0500, Tom Diehl wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Craig White wrote: > > > On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 20:21 -0800, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > >> Since I updated my F12 workstation on Tuesday (haven't done it for two > >> weeks before that) my machine becomes unusable pretty quickl

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Mikkel
On 02/12/2010 09:29 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > lsof would allow you to find the processes that have the files open. And then > you could kill those processes to release the space. It looks like you should > be able to get size infomation of these files from lsof as well. So one > could script

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 07:04 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > Actually that is not quite true. A seemingly bizarre and just about > always surprising but well-documented and surprisingly useful > requirement of UNIX filesystem symantics is that a file does not > actually disappear until *tw

Re: latest F12 quckly unusable after restart

2010-02-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:28:01 -0500 (EST) Tom Diehl wrote: > KVM seems to > aggravate the problem in that if I have virtual machines running the problem > happens sooner. IOW I get longer uptimes between lockups if the virt machines > are shutdown. I am not sure if that is relevant or not. Just ha

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Mikkel
On 02/12/2010 05:40 AM, Alan Cox wrote: > > You also want to avoid two disks on one cable as the IDE interface only > allows one of them to be active at a time so its a good way to cripple > performance. > Dumb question - what happens if you have a slow interface on the CD/DVD drive? Does the dri

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Mikkel
On 02/12/2010 05:31 AM, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > > A while back I downloaded all the diagnostics from all the drive > vendors, and burned a CD for each one. I also keep them around on a > filesystem where I archive all my software installers. They're good > things to have on hand. > Yo

Re: latest F12 quckly unusable after restart

2010-02-12 Thread Tom Diehl
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 20:21 -0800, Ulrich Drepper wrote: >> Since I updated my F12 workstation on Tuesday (haven't done it for two >> weeks before that) my machine becomes unusable pretty quickly after >> every restart. Sometimes after 30 mins, sometimes

Re: Moving LV To New Machine

2010-02-12 Thread Dave Cross
On 11 February 2010 16:04, Jamie Bohr wrote: > I've done this many times with HP-UX using vgexport and vgimport, have you > looked at those? Hadn't heard of them. I'll investigate. Thanks. Dave... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > The "ln -s" command requires the path of the file to which the link > will point, and the path of the link itself. But it doesn't care one > whit whether the linked-to file actually exists. If you can supply a > path to it, you could symbolically link to anywher

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 07:04:58 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > > Not just no other user, but no other process of any kind - not even > your own processes - will be able to locate the deleted files that you > are holding open. It will be very difficult for naive sysadmins to > even f

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Tom H
> A hard link is a directory entry that references an inode. Every > property of the file is represented in the inode, including its type, > ownership, permissions, size and pointers to the actual data, i.e. the > directory entry is simply a (name, inode) pair. As such, there can be > multiple dire

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Since it's just a name, there are no restrictions on what it > contains, in fact it may not point at anything that actually exists, and > of course can actually create a circular structure. A Good Time Can Be Had By All, by symbolicall

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 12 February 2010 07:23:02 Suvayu Ali wrote: > $ ln muse test > ln: `muse': hard link not allowed for directory > > So I did a little searching and found its not exactly a forbidden. So > far the closest to an understandable explanation/reasoning I came across > was a discussion in lwn[1]

Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-12 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Andrew Parker wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Paul Allen Newell > wrote: > >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >>> I prefer changing something in /etc/sysctl.conf because it's clearly >>> where this kind of configuration change belongs. Changing ifcfg-eth0 may >>> or may not work

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 23:23 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi everyone, > > When I tried to hardlink a directory today I ran into this, > > $ ln muse test > ln: `muse': hard link not allowed for directory > > So I did a little searching and found its not exactly a forbidden. So > far the closest to

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > What I've been looking for, for a long time, yet am unable to find, is > a very large, yet LOW resolution LCD display. > > What I would like to see are great big fat square sharp pixels, with > great big, sharply defined and completely non-antialiased text. if yo

Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13

2010-02-12 Thread Till Maas
Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > But perhaps there would be a better use for my time. That is, would > the community be better off if python-pgsql were completely abandoned, > and I contributed in some other way? I guess some other way would help more as long as nobody shouts that he needs pyt

Re: setting up the android SDK on fedora

2010-02-12 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >> Android wants the 1.5 JDK; it's incompatible with Java 1.6. > >  seriously?  even running the emulator?  because i can do *that* with > openjdk 1.6. The Android.com website says somewhere that JDK 1.6 is incompatible with some constructi

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Mike McCarty
Alan Cox wrote: [...] > You also want to avoid two disks on one cable as the IDE interface only > allows one of them to be active at a time so its a good way to cripple > performance. My previous reply may not have been quite motivational enough. There is a physical constraint as to where the d

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Mike McCarty
Alan Cox wrote: >> /dev/hda5 on / type ext3 (rw) >> /dev/hdb1 on /home type ext3 (rw) >> /dev/hda3 on /boot type ext3 (rw) > > That looks like a truely ancient Fedora ? Yes. > You also want to avoid two disks on one cable as the IDE interface only > allows one of them to be active at a time so i

Re: setting up the android SDK on fedora

2010-02-12 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > Robert, > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Robert P. J. Day > wrote: > >  i mentioned this before, but i plan on documenting how to get the > > android SDK up and running on fedora, and i've started documenting > > the process here: > > >

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Alan Cox
> /dev/hda5 on / type ext3 (rw) > /dev/hdb1 on /home type ext3 (rw) > /dev/hda3 on /boot type ext3 (rw) That looks like a truely ancient Fedora ? You also want to avoid two disks on one cable as the IDE interface only allows one of them to be active at a time so its a good way to cripple performa

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Mike McCarty
Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Mike McCarty wrote: > >> Can anyone give me advice on how to proceed with diagnostics? > > Nothing in /var/log/messages? > > What do you get when running hdparm -t a few times? Stable numbers? Yes. I tried each disc three times, and here are the values look consistent wi

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
All of the hard drive vendors provide disk drive diagnostic tools, that are able to access vendor-specific - and undocumented - firmware in their drives. This diagnostic firmware is able to diagnose drive hardware problems in a much more thorough way than the vendor-neutral S.M.A.R.T. is able to.

Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Mike McCarty wrote: > Can anyone give me advice on how to proceed with diagnostics? Nothing in /var/log/messages? What do you get when running hdparm -t a few times? Stable numbers? -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access

2010-02-12 Thread Mike McCarty
My machine has been running slower and slower, and top seems to indicate lots of I/O wait. I have two ATA discs on a single cable, wired for cable select. The master is much faster than the slave, which seems to indicate a hardware, possibly disc, problem. Trimmed output: $ mount /dev/hda5 on / t

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Ed Greshko
Marcel Rieux wrote: > 2010/2/12 Tobias Ringström : > >> I'm using two 1280x1024 displays rotated 90 degrees with an Nvidia >> graphics card, and I was very impressed by Fedora 12, because it was the >> first Fedora release where I could get this setup working without using >> Nvidia's closed sou

Re: Zen kernel, what are advantages if any?

2010-02-12 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Greg Woods wrote: > I am not a kernel developer, but I know a little about this indirectly. > Whether a project gets accepted into mainline depends on a lot of > things, but one of the big ones is how intrusive it is. If it requires > changes to many drivers and many places in the kernel, it is mu

Hard-Wire GDM X11 Resolution?

2010-02-12 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
I have a problem with my IOGear DVI/USB KVM switch, in which it fails to correctly emulate the connected monitor on DVI ports that aren't selected for display. That is, if my monitor is showing my MacBook Pro's screen, then Fedora gets the wrong display info from the KVM. If it is displaying Fedo

Re: Zen kernel, what are advantages if any?

2010-02-12 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 02/11/2010 08:53 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> So what are the reasons for its absence from the mainline kernel then? If it >> works better than the current mechanisms and is open source, why does it take >> years to get it int

Re: PySolFC-2.0.fc11?

2010-02-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:09:40 -0500, Kevin wrote: > I see updates for PySolFC-cardsets-2.0 for F11, but no PySolFC-2.0 package? I've left feedback for that in the Fedora Updates System, https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/PySolFC after noticing the issue in the broken deps report. Con

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread birger
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 09:45 +0100, Tobias Ringström wrote: > On 02/12/2010 09:26 AM, birger wrote: > > Placement of screens is a different story. No, users are not supposed to > > move their screens around. What they frequently do is move the computers > > around. You know - laptops? For laptops yo

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread birger
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 00:27 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: > GnuStep isn't supported on Fedora because of some manner of Political > Insanity. Cocoa and GnuStep software is always packaged in small > directory trees known as bundles; all of the files that on a > traditional *NIX box are s

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Tobias Ringström
On 02/12/2010 09:26 AM, birger wrote: > Placement of screens is a different story. No, users are not supposed to > move their screens around. What they frequently do is move the computers > around. You know - laptops? For laptops you definitely want users to > control placement of screens, right? A

Re: [OT] Hardlinks and directories

2010-02-12 Thread g
Suvayu Ali wrote: > So my question is how are hardlinks so different from softlinks? back in 70's when i first started with unix, linking took several times of rereading of manual before i really understood what and why. have a look at these 2 links and see if it clears up for you. http://en

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread birger
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 07:39 +0100, Tobias Ringström wrote: > Why would anyone even want user specific display settings? Are users > expected to move monitors around between logging in? Per user settings > might be useful as a feature, but it's a very unfriendly default, or am > I missing somethi

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Tim wrote: > Why do people repeatedly get this so wrong?  (Users and those making the > systems.)  The pixel count and resolution should be set to match the > display card and the monitor, it's the FONT SIZE and graphics sizes that > you should change. My weary e

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Tobias Ringström
On 02/12/2010 08:47 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: > I'm trying in vain to get Twinview to work with NVIDIA's proprietary > drivers. You know, images that show in a 5x4 format on my Viewsonic > monitor showing fullscreen in 5x4 format on my Sony TV and images that > are 16x9 filling up all the TV screen.