[389-users] Wiki/FireFox 9.0 problem

2012-01-04 Thread Andrey Ivanov
Hi, looks like the current wiki code has a problem with FireFox 9.0, the menu is displayed under the main content div. It seems ( http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/906789#answer-290813 or http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=25t=2392487) like a browser sniffing problem in wiki

Re: [389-users] Wiki/FireFox 9.0 problem

2012-01-04 Thread Andrey Ivanov
After some research apparently it was fixed in MediaWiki 1.16 released 2010-07-28 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31807) 2012/1/4 Andrey Ivanov andrey.iva...@polytechnique.fr Hi, looks like the current wiki code has a problem with FireFox 9.0, the menu is displayed under

[389-users] Announcing 389 bugzilla is moving to 389 trac

2012-01-04 Thread Rich Megginson
The 389 team will be switching to trac for keeping track of bugs/enhancement requests/issues instead of Red Hat Bugzilla. * Why? We needed a clear separation between upstream 389 development and downstream Red Hat product/process. It was getting too confusing using bugzilla for both

Re: [389-users] Wiki/FireFox 9.0 problem

2012-01-04 Thread Rich Megginson
On 01/04/2012 02:13 AM, Andrey Ivanov wrote: After some research apparently it was fixed in MediaWiki 1.16 released 2010-07-28 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31807) Thanks Andrey. We are working on it. 2012/1/4 Andrey Ivanov andrey.iva...@polytechnique.fr

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 01/04/2012 03:51 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: What is in killfox?? A shell script to kill firefox when it used to give me problems a while back. All it contains is killall -6 firefox-bin killall -6

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/04/2012 03:59 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Though I really appreciate both of your replies, I am looking at them and seeing that Marvin is saying it needs to be +x and Ed is saying it doesn't. I ran a test and -x seems to work. FYI, Marvin corrected himself saying Sorry.. My bad...

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Marvin Kosmal
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.eduwrote: On 1/3/2012 11:42 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: HI Sorry.. My bad... The make is +x.. Marivn Marvin and Ed: Though I really appreciate both of your replies, I am looking at them and seeing that Marvin is

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/04/2012 04:01 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com mailto:ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 01/04/2012 03:51 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: What is in killfox?? A shell script to kill firefox when it used to give me

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/04/2012 04:07 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: And I agree with you.. When I write shell scripts I use a .sh extension. Just to make it easy on myself.. It help me identify .sh from .txt files.. My point is simply that .sh or any other extension is meaningless to the OS. It may be helpful to

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
[inline] On 1/4/2012 12:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/04/2012 03:59 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Though I really appreciate both of your replies, I am looking at them and seeing that Marvin is saying it needs to be +x and Ed is saying it doesn't. I ran a test and -x seems to work. FYI,

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/04/2012 04:14 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: [inline] On 1/4/2012 12:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/04/2012 03:59 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Though I really appreciate both of your replies, I am looking at them and seeing that Marvin is saying it needs to be +x and Ed is saying it

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 1/4/2012 12:11 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, I never use extensions. Ed: Though I can't stand the MS world of extensions meaning something, I can't imagine not using extensions to help understand what is there. The system shouldn't give a damn, but the user needs all the help he/she can

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/04/2012 04:17 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Though I can't stand the MS world of extensions meaning something, I can't imagine not using extensions to help understand what is there. The system shouldn't give a damn, but the user needs all the help he/she can get (smile) Sure, and if

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 1/4/2012 12:17 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: FYI, Marvin corrected himself saying Sorry.. My bad... The make is +x.. So I should chmod all {M,m}akefile(s) to rwxr-x-r-x? I've already demonstrated that it isn't necessary. And that's the confusion on my end. You are stating that Marvin

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 1/4/2012 12:19 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/04/2012 04:17 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Though I can't stand the MS world of extensions meaning something, I can't imagine not using extensions to help understand what is there. The system shouldn't give a damn, but the user needs all the help

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/04/2012 04:22 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: And that's the confusion on my end. You are stating that Marvin says make it +x and you are saying it doesn't need to be. I asked this dumb question to find out how I should treat this situation regardless of what works. Its about understanding

Re: iptables: block source-ip after connecto port

2012-01-04 Thread Patrick Lists
On 04-01-12 06:54, Reindl Harald wrote: hi i would like to drop all icoming packets of any ip tried to connect to telnet (port 23) which is meant as trap for port-scans, there are some samples out there but i got none of them working until now :-( iptables -N port-scan iptables -A port-scan -p

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Steve Searle
Around 08:17am on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 (UK time), Paul Allen Newell scrawled: On 1/4/2012 12:11 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, I never use extensions. Ed: Though I can't stand the MS world of extensions meaning something, I can't imagine not using extensions to help understand what

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/04/2012 04:26 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: air enough ... I understand. If I worked at your place, I would panic at not having the extensions as a text-based clue. I spent too many years at too many places to understand that seeing an extension on a file gave me a sense of what the

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 1/4/2012 12:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/04/2012 04:22 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: And that's the confusion on my end. You are stating that Marvin says make it +x and you are saying it doesn't need to be. I asked this dumb question to find out how I should treat this situation regardless

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
[inline] On 1/4/2012 12:32 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Well, I'm sorry you'd panic I wish I had qualified that statement with a smile ... please allow me to edit prior comment. We'd just use the file command to find out what the intended use is and adhere to a standard of putting

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 1/4/2012 12:30 AM, Steve Searle wrote: The case against extensions in this context is that the user shouldn't have to change if the shell script is rewritten in a different language. Having to change from foobar.sh to foobar.pl just because of this change isn't user friendly. And what if you

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/04/2012 04:38 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: [inline] On 1/4/2012 12:32 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Well, I'm sorry you'd panic I wish I had qualified that statement with a smile ... please allow me to edit prior comment. OK :-) We'd just use the file command to find out what

[SOLVED:] Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 1/4/2012 12:46 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Well, we always will put the files/command (end product of compilation) in directories that tend to clue one in on the purpose. /bin /sbin /usr/bin, etc. And, we only put +x on the files that really need them. Hardly ever needing to use the file command

Re: pdfedit in F16?

2012-01-04 Thread Hiisi
Sorry for reincornating this thread, but I'm planning to package pdfedit fo f16. According to admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb it's orphaned. On 10/12/2011, Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/10/2011 10:55 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 10/12/11 09:42, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi,

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Richard Hughes
On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. Richard. -- users mailing list

Re: Can I list all users defined in LDAP (on RHEL6 or Fedora) ?

2012-01-04 Thread Pavel Lisy
Stephen Gallagher píše v Út 03. 01. 2012 v 16:10 -0500: On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 15:51 -0500, Peter Larsen wrote: Pavel, Are you sure the LDAP server allows listing all users? It's quite normal to turn that off. By default, SSSD doesn't allow listing all users/groups because it presents

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:51:05 + Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread JB
Paul Allen Newell pnewell at cs.cmu.edu writes: ... For questions on my syntax of *.sh, I have believed since my earliest days that a shell file (be it .sh, .csh, .tcsh, or .bash) that it has to be +x as it is an executable. If I am incorrect, I would love to know, though it may take me

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 11:27 +, Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:51:05 + Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 10:51 +, Richard Hughes wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Neal Becker
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 11:27 +, Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:51:05 + Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 23:19 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: To the list: I am dealing with a primary Fedora machine and a alternate WinXP under cygwin. Cygwin always screw up the permissions when I drag stuff over to it and then bring it back to the Fedora box. I've got scripts to handle

Re: After I sent a private message to the WOT forum, my screen switched to this page..?

2012-01-04 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 01:29:33PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Linda McLeod wrote: [snip troll-spam] OK. I've had enough. List admins, could you please issue a warning to this user? They have a history[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] of posting troll comments, which has started to become spam.

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:27:11AM +, Alan Cox wrote: Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. FWIW, I'm willing to moderate (after effect,

Re: Can I list all users defined in LDAP (on RHEL6 or Fedora) ?

2012-01-04 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 13:51 +0100, Pavel Lisy wrote: Stephen Gallagher píše v St 04. 01. 2012 v 07:31 -0500: On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 12:03 +0100, Pavel Lisy wrote: Stephen Gallagher píše v Út 03. 01. 2012 v 16:10 -0500: On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 15:51 -0500, Peter Larsen wrote: Pavel,

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 07:37:30AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 11:27 +, Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:51:05 + Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm

Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900

2012-01-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik
I've got an old Asus EEE PC 900 model, with the original, ancient Ubuntu on it, whose fate I'm pondering. Has anyone tried installing Fedora on its 4GB SSD drive. That should be big enough to accomodate the live image, I'd think, the only unknown factor is whether the stock Fedora kernel

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:55:28 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 11:27 +, Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:51:05 + Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote:

Re: Gnote + Gome 3

2012-01-04 Thread Brian Millett
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 20:06:01 -0200 Germán A. Racca german.ra...@gmail.com wrote: $ gsettings set org.gnome.gnote use-status-icon true A very nice gem! This has been bugging me for a while. Thanks. -- Brian Millett Do you know what its like when telepaths make love, Commander? You drop

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Rich
On 1/4/2012 3:40 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 1/4/2012 12:30 AM, Steve Searle wrote: The case against extensions in this context is that the user shouldn't have to change if the shell script is rewritten in a different language. Having to change from foobar.sh to foobar.pl just because of

Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900

2012-01-04 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: I've got an old Asus EEE PC 900 model, with the original, ancient Ubuntu on it, whose fate I'm pondering. Has anyone tried installing Fedora on its 4GB SSD drive. That should be big enough to accomodate the live image,

Re: iptables: block source-ip after connecto port

2012-01-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.01.2012 09:29, schrieb Patrick Lists: On 04-01-12 06:54, Reindl Harald wrote: hi i would like to drop all icoming packets of any ip tried to connect to telnet (port 23) which is meant as trap for port-scans, there are some samples out there but i got none of them working until now

Re: [389-users] bak2db restore got stuck in infinite loop

2012-01-04 Thread Groten, Ryan
From: Rich Megginson [mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 4:18 PM To: Groten, Ryan Cc: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. Subject: Re: [389-users] bak2db restore got stuck in infinite loop On 01/03/2012 03:50 PM, Groten, Ryan wrote: From:

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread g
On 01/04/2012 10:51 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's

Re: FreeIPA Fedora 16

2012-01-04 Thread Ian Chapman
On 01/04/2012 05:06 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: I see the users and can log in etc, however every client machine fails to shut down after being configured Hmm, that's interesting. If it's only happening once the ipa client install is done, then it's probably an SSSD issue. I think it could

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Neal Becker
g wrote: On 01/04/2012 10:51 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the

F16 autofs + wireless

2012-01-04 Thread Ian Chapman
Hi, A bit of background first :) I have a netbook which connects to my LAN via a Wifi connection and I've configured autofs to pull it's maps from an LDAP directory. The network connection is working exactly as expected and receives a reserved IP address assigned by DHCP. The network

Re: [389-users] bak2db restore got stuck in infinite loop

2012-01-04 Thread Rich Megginson
On 01/04/2012 12:32 AM, Andrey Ivanov wrote: Bugzilla will not be used any more (at all)? It will still be used for some things. Some people will enter bugs into the system by filing a bug against Fedora or Fedora EPEL for the particular component of 389 in that release (e.g. Fedora -

Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900

2012-01-04 Thread fernando
Hi, I have one of those and Installed many Fedora reseases. Currently it's running F14 with compiz enabled (!) []s, Fernando Lozano Original Message From: Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com To: For users of Fedora Core releases users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Qua, Jan 4,

Re: [389-users] Problem with ds setup

2012-01-04 Thread Rich Megginson
On 01/03/2012 10:52 PM, Israel Nelken wrote: I tried to install the directory server on a machine with a clean installation of Fedora 16, fully updated. the setup script failed at the state of starting the admin server. I fully removed the installation (remove-ds-admin.pl

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread JB
Olav Vitters olav at vitters.nl writes: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:27:11AM +, Alan Cox wrote: Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe.

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Dennis Kaptain
Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread g
On 01/04/2012 03:22 PM, Neal Becker wrote: You know, I would have taken the same view if it wasn't that this had been directed personally at me. Funny how that changes things. I wouldn't be very happy if I just blocked it from my own client but still found this crap broadcast all over.

Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900

2012-01-04 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: the only unknown factor is whether the stock Fedora kernel will know what to do with the funky SSD drive in that thing. I doubt that will be a problem. I had stock F14 on my 900A. Although I preferred some of the other, lighter, spins; they

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/04/2012 09:18 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: about this user, who's now being moderated. Bummer. I never paid any attention to what Linda had to say. It was *way* more fun reading reactions to her posts. :-) -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Christina Salls
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Dennis Kaptain dkapt...@yahoo.com.mxwrote: Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:38:15PM +, JB wrote: Olav Vitters olav at vitters.nl writes: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:27:11AM +, Alan Cox wrote: Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need

Re: F16 autofs + wireless

2012-01-04 Thread John Austin
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 23:28 +0800, Ian Chapman wrote: Hi, A bit of background first :) I have a netbook which connects to my LAN via a Wifi connection and I've configured autofs to pull it's maps from an LDAP directory. The network connection is working exactly as expected and receives a

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread JB
Olav Vitters olav at vitters.nl writes: ... For anyone reading along: At the Desktop Summit at least 10 people thanked me personally for the moderation I do on the GNOME mailing lists. Also get a thanks in the presentation of the GNOME foundation meeting (during GUADEC Desktop Summit).

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Alan Cox
This is not a list to be moderated by half-witts of your caliber. Get lost. A fine demonstration of why the list needs moderating. Actually Olav does a rather good job on the Gnome lists I've seen. I'm not sure I agree with all his choices but he does manage to stop them turning into junk

Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900

2012-01-04 Thread fred smith
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 01:33:15PM -0200, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: Hi, I have one of those and Installed many Fedora reseases. Currently it's running F14 with compiz enabled (!) I've installed Fedora 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14 on my eeepc 901. Mine has a 4 gig SSD and a (slower) 16 gig

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread JB
Alan Cox alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk writes: This is not a list to be moderated by half-witts of your caliber. Get lost. A fine demonstration of why the list needs moderating. Actually Olav does a rather good job on the Gnome lists I've seen. I'm not sure I agree with all his choices

Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900

2012-01-04 Thread Jim
On 01/04/2012 08:18 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I've got an old Asus EEE PC 900 model, with the original, ancient Ubuntu on it, whose fate I'm pondering. Has anyone tried installing Fedora on its 4GB SSD drive. That should be big enough to accomodate the live image, I'd think, the only unknown

Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900

2012-01-04 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jim binary...@comcast.net wrote: I think with 4gb  your pushing it when getting into preupgrading or updating , where extra space is required. I have a 8gb 900 that I had Fedora on it and I still ran into problems of not having enough extra space. I still had

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Christina Salls
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:39 AM, JB jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Alan Cox alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk writes: This is not a list to be moderated by half-witts of your caliber. Get lost. A fine demonstration of why the list needs moderating. Actually Olav does a rather good job

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/04/2012 10:39 AM, JB wrote: Alan Cox alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk writes: This is not a list to be moderated by half-witts of your caliber. Get lost. A fine demonstration of why the list needs moderating. Actually Olav does a rather

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Claude Jones
On 1/4/2012 10:50 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: I never paid any attention to what Linda had to say. It was*way* more fun reading reactions to her You sure that was a she? Got a spam message two days ago from a charles mcleod - just saying... I did find all the indignant chest beating pretty funny,

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread jdow
On 2012/01/04 09:16, Claude Jones wrote: On 1/4/2012 10:50 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: I never paid any attention to what Linda had to say. It was*way* more fun reading reactions to her You sure that was a she? Got a spam message two days ago from a charles mcleod - just saying... I did find all

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread JB
Mikkel L. Ellertson mellertson at gmail.com writes: ... JB, It indicates that he can do a good job of moderating a list. Think of it as a job reference. Mikkel - -- Mikkel, you are very easy here to set up (because that's what it is) when you want to drive away one mostly

[SOLVED] Re: F16 autofs + wireless

2012-01-04 Thread Ian Chapman
On 01/05/2012 12:18 AM, John Austin wrote: and in order for the network connection to be successful it needs an IPv4 address. So my question is, why does autofs get started before an IPv4 address has been made available? Is there a reasonable way to fix this? Does this help ? Used it for

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 05:27:08PM +, JB wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson mellertson at gmail.com writes: ... JB, It indicates that he can do a good job of moderating a list. Think of it as a job reference. Mikkel - -- Mikkel, you are very easy here to set up (because that's

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/04/2012 08:39 AM, JB wrote: By making himself available to this list with the justification as he did it, he showed that he is a complete buffoon ! I say to him once again - get lost ! Mr. Pot, may I introduce you to my friend Mr. Kettle? -- users mailing list

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread JB
Joe Zeff joe at zeff.us writes: ... Mr. Pot, may I introduce you to my friend Mr. Kettle? Well, welcome to the club. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines:

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/04/2012 11:27 AM, JB wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson mellertson at gmail.com writes: ... JB, It indicates that he can do a good job of moderating a list. Think of it as a job reference. Mikkel - -- Mikkel, you are very easy here to set

SOLVED Re: iptables: block source-ip after connect to port

2012-01-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.01.2012 06:54, schrieb Reindl Harald: hi i would like to drop all icoming packets of any ip tried to connect to telnet (port 23) which is meant as trap for port-scans, there are some samples out there but i got none of them working until now :-( iptables -N port-scan iptables -A

Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900

2012-01-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jim writes: I think with 4gb  your pushing it when getting into preupgrading or updating , where extra space is required. I have a 8gb 900 that I had Fedora on it and I still ran into problems of not having enough extra space. I still had Fedora running and reconized all the hardware

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread JB
Mikkel L. Ellertson mellertson at gmail.com writes: ... You missed the point. Weather moderating this list is a desirable option or not does not affect how well he does as a moderator. Your comment did not address the question of weather this list needs to be moderated, it only addressed

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Neal Becker
g wrote: On 01/04/2012 03:22 PM, Neal Becker wrote: You know, I would have taken the same view if it wasn't that this had been directed personally at me. Funny how that changes things. I wouldn't be very happy if I just blocked it from my own client but still found this crap

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 1/4/2012 11:08 AM, JB wrote: I am for restoring Linda to her full list membership, w/o moderation. JB a big -1 (as in no) --- this is one of the few times I would consider blinking html (smile) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Patrick Lists
On 04-01-12 20:08, JB wrote: I think this list should not be moderated at all because as I already said it can be easily manipulated into killing it. IMO that Linda person is killing this list and with the baseless personal attack on Neal this Linda person has shown to be a threat to the

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
Alan Cox wrote: Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. No doubt some people have done so, but most people? Do you have information on this?

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 1/4/2012 4:04 AM, JB wrote: Paul Allen Newellpnewellat cs.cmu.edu writes: Sleep well, the polarity is still intact :-) Would the following be helpful ? # ls -l /etc/init.d/network -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 7448 Feb 25 2011 /etc/init.d/network # file /etc/init.d/network

Another Fedora 16 + Gnome 3.2 question!?

2012-01-04 Thread William Case
Hi; How do I get rid of the Universal Access icon in the upper right hand corner/panel? Googled but seems every distribution has a different answer. How do I get rid of it in Fedora 16, preferably using the icon-manage extension in dconf-editor if there is such away. Nothing I have tried seems

gdm with smartcards on Fedora 16

2012-01-04 Thread Anthony R Fletcher
With Fedora 16 I don't see how to enable smartcard logins for GDM. I have pcscd and openct working and /etc/pam_pkcs11/pam_pkcs11.conf correctly configured to use opensc. pklogin_finder returns the right things and I can log in at the console login prompt. I have gdm-3.2.1.1-8.fc16.x86_64

Re: Another Fedora 16 + Gnome 3.2 question!?

2012-01-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:04:16PM -0500, William Case wrote: How do I get rid of the Universal Access icon in the upper right hand corner/panel? Googled but seems every distribution has a different answer. How do I get rid of it in Fedora 16, preferably using the icon-manage extension in

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread g
On 01/04/2012 07:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Not yet, but can't wait to say, apply for a job, or a loan, and have someone google me and this shows up. -=- i did, just for more laughs, look at links Linda post and i did note that search params where not full and correct. if that is among your

Re: Another Fedora 16 + Gnome 3.2 question!?

2012-01-04 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 01/04/2012 04:04 PM, William Case wrote: How do I get rid of the Universal Access icon in the upper right hand corner/panel? Googled but seems every distribution has a different answer. How do I get rid of it in Fedora 16, preferably using the icon-manage extension in dconf-editor if there

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.01.2012 22:10, schrieb g: On 01/04/2012 07:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Not yet, but can't wait to say, apply for a job, or a loan, and have someone google me and this shows up. -=- i did, just for more laughs, look at links Linda post and i did note that search params where not

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 1/4/2012 4:38 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I know you and Ed (and Marvin) have been round the block on this, but if you'll allow an oldie to sum up: Makefiles are not normally executables, in fact they aren't normally Shell scripts. Therefore they don't need to have the +x attribute. It's

Re: Error mount NFS -- nfs4_get_rootfh

2012-01-04 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 01/02/2012 04:02:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/03/2012 06:20 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: On 01/02/2012 01:19:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/03/2012 02:51 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: mount -v -v -v -t nfs4 mtranch://nfs4exports/home /mtranch-home Cats having me up for a moment again

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread g
On 01/04/2012 08:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: If you want them to be directly executable, yes. But if you call them as input to a shell they need not be. -=- in addition, run this; man . that will give you some more insight to executing files. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 13:23 +, Alan Cox wrote: No doubt some people have done so, but most people? Do you have information on this? Enquiring minds want to know. Plot graphs of active contributors to this list and their active time on the list before leaving, compare with the power

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread JB
Patrick Lists fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl writes: On 04-01-12 20:08, JB wrote: I think this list should not be moderated at all because as I already said it can be easily manipulated into killing it. IMO that Linda person is killing this list and with the baseless personal

Re: Another Fedora 16 + Gnome 3.2 question!?

2012-01-04 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 22:10 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:04:16PM -0500, William Case wrote: How do I get rid of the Universal Access icon in the upper right hand corner/panel? Googled but seems every distribution has a different answer. How do I get rid of it in

Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?

2012-01-04 Thread Patrick Lists
On 04-01-12 22:10, g wrote: besides, do you really think that what shows up with simple a google search is going to be all that is run? A company that does background checks told me that cutting corners is exactly what happens in their industry. A quick Google? Check. Searched Facebook?

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 13:19 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 1/4/2012 4:38 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I know you and Ed (and Marvin) have been round the block on this, but if you'll allow an oldie to sum up: Makefiles are not normally executables, in fact they aren't normally

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread g
On 01/04/2012 08:22 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: And that's the confusion on my end. You are stating that Marvin says make it +x and you are saying it doesn't need to be. I asked this dumb question to find out how I should treat this situation regardless of what works. Its about

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:19:51 -0800, PAN (Paul) wrote: On 1/4/2012 4:38 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I know you and Ed (and Marvin) have been round the block on this, but if you'll allow an oldie to sum up: Makefiles are not normally executables, in fact they aren't normally Shell

Re: dumb question

2012-01-04 Thread g
On 01/04/2012 09:36 PM, g wrote: an addition to give you something to consider... there is no such thing as a 'dumb question'. when unsure about something, one should always ask questions to prevent making 'dumb errors' and 'dumb mistakes'. what is _dumb_ is using just 'dumb question' as the

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