After all the hype, problems and dislikes with Fedora 17, I am
interested to know is it worth fresh installing over Fedora 16 or would
it be best to wait a month or so?
Thanks
Roger
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On 06/16/2012 02:16 PM, Roger wrote:
After all the hype, problems and dislikes with Fedora 17, I am interested to
know
is it worth fresh installing over Fedora 16 or would it be best to wait a
month or so?
That's a decision you have to make for yourself. You've read about all the
problems
On 06/15/2012 11:23 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 06/16/2012 02:16 PM, Roger wrote:
After all the hype, problems and dislikes with Fedora 17, I am interested to
know
is it worth fresh installing over Fedora 16 or would it be best to wait a month
or so?
That's a decision you have to make for
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 23:40 -0700, JD wrote:
Another point is that F17 release iso is not going to change
at all by waiting a few months. All the waiting will do is to
accumulate a lot more updates to be installed after installing
the release iso :) :)
There may be updated livecds available
On 16/06/12 16:46, Ankur Sinha wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 23:40 -0700, JD wrote:
Another point is that F17 release iso is not going to change
at all by waiting a few months. All the waiting will do is to
accumulate a lot more updates to be installed after installing
the release iso :) :)
Hello,
I want to play poker, is there any good Linux poker game ? Or card game
suite, like Hoyle?
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On 06/15/2012 07:06 PM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:
The fact that you still rant about it, tells me that you have probably
not given it a real chance in the first place.
I'll go farther than that: when I upgraded my laptop to F16, the first
time I logged in it defaulted to Gnome instead of
On 06/16/2012 02:50 PM, Roger wrote:\\\
On 16/06/12 16:46, Ankur Sinha wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 23:40 -0700, JD wrote:
Another point is that F17 release iso is not going to change
at all by waiting a few months. All the waiting will do is to
accumulate a lot more updates to be installed
On 06/15/2012 09:59 PM, Daniel wrote:
In any case, I don't think that one should quit using the Gnome shell
with the hope that they will reform and then intention of returning
if-and-when they do.
I agree. I quite Gnome slightly before Gnome 3 came out and have no
interest in going back.
On 06/15/2012 07:06 PM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:
I had to install Xfce on a machine because it didn't have enough
hardware for the full version. I felt - and feel - like I'm computing
with one hand tied behind my back every time I use it...
And I find that it does exactly what I want, the
On 06/15/2012 07:06 PM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote in response to Joe
Zeff:
The fact that you still rant about it, tells me that you have probably
not given it a real chance in the first place.
I'll go farther than that: snip As soon as I saw what had happened, I
logged back out and tried
On 15.06.2012, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Thank you Heinz, I am looking at the Tomato page now. Hopefully I
can install it on one of the two Cisco E3000s that presently have
DD-WRT on them.
If it runs on your Cisco router, I'm quite shure that all these
functions will
On 16.06.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
Not strictly an answer, but (given that the 64bit does not exist) why
would you not use 32bit-compatibility libraries?
for viewing PDFs? jokingly?
Adobe Reader is the only .pdf reader that is capable of displaying
embedded fonts sharply and precisely.
On 16.06.2012, Chris wrote:
# rpm -qi postfix
Name: postfix
Epoch : 2
Version : 2.9.2
Release : 2.fc17
Architecture: x86_64
[]
I'm using exactly the same postfix version (on F17) and don't have a
chroot-update either.
[root@wildsau postfix]# ls -l
Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
On 16.06.2012, Chris wrote:
# rpm -qi postfix
Name: postfix
Epoch : 2
Version : 2.9.2
Release : 2.fc17
Architecture: x86_64
[]
I'm using exactly the same postfix version (on F17) and don't have a
chroot-update either.
On 06/16/2012 12:45 AM, Raymond Pittigher wrote:
Starting to use Fedora on a system or 2 instead of RHEL5 or 6 and I
notice that on my NFSv4 mounts I get this
drwx--x---. 28 4294967294 4294967294 4096 Apr 26 2011 user2
drwx--x---. 39 users1 user1 4096 Apr 26 2011 user1
Some users are
Hello Fedora community,
I've just upgraded Fedora 16 to 17 using PreUpgrade. After second restart I
was welcomed by SELinux alert (see [1] for alert details).
This bug, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704591 , seems
related but it's labelled as fixed in older version of
Am 16.06.2012 10:39, schrieb Ed Greshko:
Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
On 16.06.2012, Chris wrote:
# rpm -qi postfix
Name: postfix
Epoch : 2
Version : 2.9.2
Release : 2.fc17
Architecture: x86_64
[]
I'm using exactly the same postfix version (on F17)
Am 16.06.2012 10:21, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
On 16.06.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
dealing with nspluginwrapper for acrobat - have fun!
he wants a browser-plugin!
Really?
[root@wildsau ~]# yum deplist AdobeReader_enu | grep -i nsplugin
[root@wildsau ~]#
you do not undersatdn what i am
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On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
Adobe Reader is the only .pdf reader that is capable of displaying
embedded fonts sharply and precisely. I read a lot of scientific
papers in .pdf format which contain complex diagrams and formulas, and
it's a pain using
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I installed XFCE but I can't see where you can choose it when you login.
If all else fails, create a file (as root):
/etc/sysconfig/desktop
contents:
PREFERRED=/usr/bin/startxfce4
and reboot.
I installed my F16
On 06/16/2012 06:13 PM, suvayu ali wrote:
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Heinz Diehl h...@fritha.org wrote:
Adobe Reader is the only .pdf reader that is capable of displaying
embedded fonts sharply and precisely. I read a lot of scientific
papers in .pdf format which contain complex
On 16.06.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
system: x86_64
browser: x86_64
plugins: x86_64
Fedora 17 x86_64:
[root@wildsau etc]# cat /etc/fedora-release
Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle)
Firefox 64-bit, Adobe Reader (en) 32-bit, no nspluginwrapper:
[root@wildsau etc]# rpm -qa | grep -i firefox
On 16/06/12 04:11, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 15.06.2012, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
Thank you Heinz, I am looking at the Tomato page now. Hopefully I
can install it on one of the two Cisco E3000s that presently have
DD-WRT on them.
If it runs on your Cisco router, I'm
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:25:44 -0700
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 06/15/2012 10:20 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
Probably by arguing that 99.99% of users who don't actually care won't
be part of the noise. Which I think is a fair point.
So, what you're saying is, Gnome 3 is being developed for
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:46:46 +0100
Alan Cox wrote:
So, what you're saying is, Gnome 3 is being developed for people who
don't care what the devs do and will accept any changes they feel like
making?
No it's being developed by a bunch of people based upon what they know,
what they
I have a different theory:
http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/game/gnome3-rant.html
I wouldn't mind if Gnome 3 was more like that, after all Unity is just a
very bad re-interpretation of Windowmaker.
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On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
I use Adobe reader over evince since evince does a poor job of rendering PDF
files
which contain a mixture of English and Traditional Chinese.
Ah, I have never had to deal with multi-language documents. If you
have
Am 16.06.2012 12:05, schrieb Pittigher:
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To:
Am 16.06.2012 13:03, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
On 16.06.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
system: x86_64
browser: x86_64
plugins: x86_64
Fedora 17 x86_64:
[root@wildsau etc]# cat /etc/fedora-release
Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle)
Firefox 64-bit, Adobe Reader (en) 32-bit, no
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 01:19:01PM +0600, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
Hello,
I want to play poker, is there any good Linux poker game ? Or card game
suite, like Hoyle?
I dunno what's in Hoyle. but there's PysolFC from one of the repos
(if not the fedora repos, then it would be in
smime.p7m
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On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 15:42 -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
On 06/14/2012 03:25:25 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Where do you find a 64bit version of Adobe Reader?
Not strictly an answer, but (given that the 64bit does not exist) why
would you not use 32bit-compatibility libraries?
That's
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 07:42 -0500, Jeff Gipson wrote:
[something]
You just sent an S/Mime-encrypted message to a mailing list. I presume
that was a mistake.
poc
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On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 15:42 -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
On 06/14/2012 03:25:25 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Where do you find a 64bit version of Adobe Reader?
I find the following link instructive:
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 16:16 +1000, Roger wrote:
After all the hype, problems and dislikes with Fedora 17, I am
interested to know is it worth fresh installing over Fedora 16 or would
it be best to wait a month or so?
Thanks
Roger
One thing that caught me by surprise. At least I think that
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 08:17:44AM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 07:42 -0500, Jeff Gipson wrote:
[something]
You just sent an S/Mime-encrypted message to a mailing list. I presume
that was a mistake.
poc
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Yeah,
Fedora User wrote:
Pulse 2.0 was released by FDO in mid-May
The release package has become completely unstable for me
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832628). Thought I might
try the rawhide version. You never know - this might actually work for a
change.
Here's a slightly
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 13:19:01 +0600,
Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor zombiegenera...@aol.com wrote:
Hello,
I want to play poker, is there any good Linux poker game ? Or card
game suite, like Hoyle?
You might get better responses if you described in more detail the kinds of
poker you like to
On 06/15/2012 11:37 PM, David wrote:
On 6/16/2012 12:32 AM, Kevin Martin wrote:
On 06/15/2012 03:19 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
I've tried a new profile and no extensions and still see the
weirdness with the back button.
It may well be gtk as the button normally has a bit of
a fancy GUI effect
Am 16.06.2012 16:07, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
On 16.06.2012, Reindl Harald wrote:
Arobat Reader or Firefox shows the PDF
hopefully you are not kidding and x´explain me that
the PDF is downloaded to /tmp and AcrobatReader
opened after click on a link
Yes, it's Adobe Reader which is opened
On 06/16/2012 05:43 PM, Pittigher, Raymond - ES wrote:
Yes, I configured the /etc/idmapd... file and set the Domain variable.
Started the systemctl restart nfs-idmap.service. If I go back to NFSv3 it all
looks OK. It also seems to be only a problem with Fedora 17 at the moment. I
did a
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 08:49 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote:
On 06/15/2012 11:37 PM, David wrote:
On 6/16/2012 12:32 AM, Kevin Martin wrote:
On 06/15/2012 03:19 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
I've tried a new profile and no extensions and still see the
weirdness with the back button.
It may well be
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 18:50 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 23:45 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:35:32 +0100, John Austin wrote:
I believe this is just a repo problem
The i686 and x86_64 versions are now available
Confirmed via a brief
i dont now but please tall how should i stop receiving these msges
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On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 18:50 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 23:45 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:35:32
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Try reading the footer, or the full headers
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i dont now but please tall how should i stop receiving these msges
really, everybody who is able to register for a mailing-list
should be also able to maintain his subscriptions
each message has a footer:
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nothing in foot... i checked
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On 16/06/12 17:17, Mulkesh Sharma wrote:
i dont now but please tall how should i stop receiving these msges
Try reading the footer, or the full headers
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:30:51 -0500
Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
Fedora User wrote:
Pulse 2.0 was released by FDO in mid-May
The release package has become completely unstable for me
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=832628). Thought I
might try the rawhide
Am 16.06.2012 18:23, schrieb Mulkesh Sharma:
nothing in foot... i checked
each damned message contains to follwowing paragraph
as footer and there is the hint how to unsubscribe
CLICK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users
next time after register somewhere READ the welcome
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 09:15:57 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
I believe this is just a repo problem
The i686 and x86_64 versions are now available
Confirmed via a brief look at dl.fedoraproject.org
However, only Fedora Release Engineering could explain what has happened
in
hey i am just joking i love your msges . and i am happy to
receive these msges but some time i am not understand because my
english is very bad..oky bye
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Am 16.06.2012 18:17, schrieb Mulkesh Sharma:
i dont
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 16:16 +1000, Roger wrote:
After all the hype, problems and dislikes with Fedora 17, I am
interested to know is it worth fresh installing over Fedora 16 or would
it be best to wait a month or so?
Don't do it! A fresh install works reasonably well, but there are a
*lot*
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:59:09 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 12:55 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 23:32 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:18:05 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
In F16 once I enter my login name I get a session
On 06/16/2012 01:10 AM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:
I'm merely suggesting you try it - it may not be as bad as it seems on
paper.
The fact that it's almost impossible to configure without taking the
time to install a bunch of extensions and that almost every single
default is exactly the
On 06/16/2012 01:10 AM, Roelof 'Ben' Kusters wrote:
Also, I've seen Ubuntu under Gnome3 - and they've managed to make a very
different environment out of it than Fedora (one that I do not like, but
perhaps you will?)
My sister uses Ubuntu, with Unity. I've used it a few times, and hated it.
On 06/16/2012 03:05 AM, Pittigher, Raymond - ES wrote:
not sure I have the authority to drop the bullcrap at the end of the email. I
did not know about the -- and I am trying that in this email.
FYI, the proper .sig separator is -- on a line of its own, and the
space at the end is required.
On 06/16/2012 04:49 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
I have a different theory:
http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/game/gnome3-rant.html
Very amusing. I, however, have a somewhat simpler theory Many of the
Gnome devs have odd little things that they think would be neat, or
cool, and what we see is
On 06/16/2012 10:18 AM, John Mellor wrote:
After upgrading one machine from 16 to 17, I've decided not to do the
others. It feels like the F17 release is basically just a halfway point
to F18+, and seems to break more than it fixes.
There are always little gotchas that slip through the beta
Fedora 17 / KDE
The Samsung Print Driver I'm using is installed on two other F17 boxes
and working fine.
Using system-config-printer and in Printing-Localhost Help
Troubleshoot I'm getting a error saying:
Although one or more printers are marked as being shared , this print
server is
Hi,
I have been happily using a WeTab atom tablet with Fedora for about an
year.
In Fedora 16 I had right click emulation via xinput like this:
xinput --set-prop 9 Evdev Third Button Emulation 1
xinput --set-prop 9 Evdev Third Button Emulation Threshold 70
After holding down a finger for a
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On 16/06/12 07:16, Roger wrote:
After all the hype, problems and dislikes with Fedora 17, I am
interested to know is it worth fresh installing over Fedora 16 or
would it be best to wait a month or so?
I've both upgraded from Verne - Beefy via
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 18:33 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 09:15:57 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
I believe this is just a repo problem
The i686 and x86_64 versions are now available
Confirmed via a brief look at dl.fedoraproject.org
However,
Recently I updated F16 on my laptop. Since then I have encountered the
following issues:
1) I see the following error message being repeated constantly in
/var/log/messages
Jun 16 17:35:17 peglaptop dbus-daemon[1147]: ** (upowerd:1807): WARNING
**: Property get or set does not have an
On 06/16/2012 05:43 PM, Pittigher, Raymond - ES wrote:
Yes, I configured the /etc/idmapd... file and set the Domain variable.
Started the systemctl restart nfs-idmap.service.
One thing I noticedbut am still scratching my head I need to go back
and
check the test mailing list
On 06/17/2012 10:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
Regardless of that I found that on my system rpc.idmapd would not start
on book
when the service was enabled. The only way I could get it to start on boot
was to
also enable NetworkManager-wait-online.service.
I take that back It seems
On Jun 15, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Chris wrote:
2012/6/15 Jeff Gipson jeffagip...@gmail.com:
Is this F15, F16 or F17? I use postfix and have no
/etc/postfix/chroot-update. Are you using the postfix package from Fedora,
or did you go third party?
Hi,
Fedora 17 package, fresh new install with
Thought this info might be useful to anyone else installing F17 from scratch
and trying to port old Postfix configs.
It seems that installing Postfix does not, by default, install
cyrus-sasl-plain. This means that AUTH LOGIN PLAIN mechanism won't work out of
the box when using Postfix as a
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