Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf
Well, Back in 2010 I heard f15 will feature experimental wayland support (from Alan Jackson AKA ajax). Anyone knows what's the latest update on that issue? Will we ever gonna see wayland replacing X? Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor -- users mailing list users@li

Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-21 Thread Tim
Hi, Just a heads up, in case anyone else decides (against all sanity) to try using Skype, *and* get a webcam working, on 64-bit Fedora 17, you get stymied by: Skype being only released in 32 bit Skype wanting video for Linux 1 Fedora 17 uses video for Linux 2 Web pages offering advice

Re: Blocked site -

2012-10-21 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 21/10/12 00:48, Tim wrote: Bob Goodwin: So it looks like my ISP is what it is and I probably can't change things without degrading the service I have now which is quite good then it works. Their are minor glitches that I have not been able to assign the blame for, it occasionally requ

html/css display on fedora is different than from other os ( windows, ...)

2012-10-21 Thread mike lan
Hello why is html/css display on fedora on firefox and google chrome alike is different than on other os ? some times the size of a font can break the display of a site which looks right on windows and not on fedora. is there a way to work around this issue by tweaking some settings on firefox an

Re: html/css display on fedora is different than from other os ( windows, ...)

2012-10-21 Thread Ian Malone
On 21 October 2012 12:34, mike lan wrote: > Hello > > why is html/css display on fedora on firefox and google chrome alike is > different than on other os ? some times the size of a font can break the > display of a site which looks right on windows and not on fedora. > > is there a way to work ar

Re: Blocked site -

2012-10-21 Thread Tim
Bob Goodwin: > All things considered, the ISP people are professionals, I am an > amateur and it seems unlikely that I will beat them at their game. > So what it boils down to is I am doing things for my own amusement, > and just need to be careful not to leave the system in bad shape out > of cons

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:10:00 +1100 Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: > Will we ever gonna see wayland replacing X? Shhh! Don't give them ideas! :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guide

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On 21/10/12 08:10, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: Well, Back in 2010 I heard f15 will feature experimental wayland support (from Alan Jackson AKA ajax). Anyone knows what's the latest update on that issue? Will we ever gonna see wayland replacing X? http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2

Re: html/css display on fedora is different than from other os ( windows, ...)

2012-10-21 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 11:34 +, mike lan wrote: > why is html/css display on fedora on firefox and google chrome alike > is different than on other os ? some times the size of a font can > break the display of a site which looks right on windows and not on > fedora. > > is there a way to work a

Re: Blocked site -

2012-10-21 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA
On 21/10/12 08:28, Tim wrote: You are paying for a service. If they're not doing it right, or good enough, it is fair to ask them to fix something up. If you have a particular problem site, ask them about it. Yes I will and do ask when I have trouble. When I do call tech support they ac

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Patrick Lists
On 10/21/2012 09:10 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: Well, Back in 2010 I heard f15 will feature experimental wayland support (from Alan Jackson AKA ajax). Anyone knows what's the latest update on that issue? Will we ever gonna see wayland replacing X? The Wayland project is very much alive and well.

Re: html/css display on fedora is different than from other os ( windows, ...)

2012-10-21 Thread Mike Wright
10/21/2012 04:34 AM, mike lan wrote: Hello why is html/css display on fedora on firefox and google chrome alike is different than on other os ? some times the size of a font can break the display of a site which looks right on windows and not on fedora. is there a way to work around this issue

Re: html/css display on fedora is different than from other os ( windows, ...)

2012-10-21 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 08:43 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: > I recently came across something similar where Firefox and Chrome > rendered the same page differently. The cause was not the browser but > the page. As well as not-so-brilliantly written pages, where authors haven't really known what they'

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Patrick Lists < fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl> wrote: > On 10/21/2012 09:10 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: > >> Well, >> >> Back in 2010 I heard f15 will feature experimental wayland support (from >> Alan Jackson AKA ajax). Anyone knows what's the latest update on that

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Patrick Lists
On 10/21/2012 06:59 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: [snip] I have not been following this closely, but it sure looks interesting. What would be some key benefits of replacing X with Wayland? I'm not a developer but my guess is that X's 25 year old codebase is dragging along a tremendous amou

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:59:26 +0200 Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > What would be some key benefits of replacing X with Wayland? Loss of remote display capability? Destruction of compatibility for tens of thousands of existing applications? But it is shiny and new and written from scratch, so obvio

Re: Blocked site -

2012-10-21 Thread Tim
Bob Goodwin: > Assuming the Newegg problem was due to an address change, should the > Wildblue dns have caught up with it sooner? That depends... DNS records have time-to-live data, that says how long records should be cached for. So, if a website's record say cache me for 15 days, then that's w

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:05:36 +0200 Patrick Lists wrote: > On 10/21/2012 06:59 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > [snip] > > I have not been following this closely, but it sure looks interesting. > > > > What would be some key benefits of replacing X with Wayland? > > I'm not a developer but my g

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Doug
On 10/21/2012 01:06 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:59:26 +0200 Christopher Svanefalk wrote: What would be some key benefits of replacing X with Wayland? Loss of remote display capability? Destruction of compatibility for tens of thousands of existing applications? But it is shin

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-21 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 15:24 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2012-10-20 at 22:41 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > Following his instructions, I ended up with this: > > > > SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", > > ATTR{address}=="00:19:b9:13:a8:fc", NAME="eth0" > Finding it hard to reme

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Tim
Christopher Svanefalk: >> What would be some key benefits of replacing X with Wayland? Tom Horsley: > Loss of remote display capability? Destruction of compatibility > for tens of thousands of existing applications? But it is > shiny and new and written from scratch, so obviously it > is better.

Fwd: F17- Firefox is not rendering correct colours

2012-10-21 Thread antonio montagnani
Today I shot some pictures with my DSLR, I transferred to my computer and made some work on them by the GIMP. I loaded some images to my facebook account but when I see some image I get some blueish colour. In Shotwell colours are fine, same as in the Gimp: furthermore on a different computer

RE: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf
The most significant change wayland will bring over X is the ability to softwares directly talking to hardwares instead of middlewares. Less hangup and stuffs. Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: Fwd: F17- Firefox is not rendering correct colours

2012-10-21 Thread antonio montagnani
antonio montagnani ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 21/10/2012 20:06: Today I shot some pictures with my DSLR, I transferred to my computer and made some work on them by the GIMP. I loaded some images to my facebook account but when I see some image I get some blueish colour. I

Re: Fwd: F17- Firefox is not rendering correct colours

2012-10-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/21/2012 11:06 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: Any idea??? Try Opera, Chrome or Seamonkey. Find out if it's Firefox itself or something else. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Fwd: F17- Firefox is not rendering correct colours

2012-10-21 Thread antonio montagnani
Joe Zeff ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 21/10/2012 20:34: On 10/21/2012 11:06 AM, antonio montagnani wrote: Any idea??? Try Opera, Chrome or Seamonkey. Find out if it's Firefox itself or something else. It was my Firefox (and also Seamonkey): changing the value as per my

Re: NetworkManager causin problems with DNS settings.

2012-10-21 Thread Jim
On 10/20/2012 09:31 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/21/2012 05:29 AM, Jim wrote: On 10/20/2012 04:55 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Get rid of the PEERDNS setting. Getting rid of the PEERDNS setting did not help.. PEERDNS=, where is one of the following: yes — This interface will modify your system

Konqueror: cannot connect to X server

2012-10-21 Thread Jim
Fedora 17 Apps won't start as SU , because they cannot connect to X server. I can echo $DISPLAY , I get :0.0 as SU. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedora

Re: Fwd: F17- Firefox is not rendering correct colours

2012-10-21 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 10/21/2012 02:28 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: antonio montagnani ha scritto / said the following il giorno/on 21/10/2012 20:06: Today I shot some pictures with my DSLR, I transferred to my computer and made some work on them by the GIMP. I loaded some images to my facebook account but wh

Re: Fwd: F17- Firefox is not rendering correct colours

2012-10-21 Thread antonio montagnani
Mark LaPierre ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 21/10/2012 21:07: On 10/21/2012 02:28 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: antonio montagnani ha scritto / said the following il giorno/on 21/10/2012 20:06: Today I shot some pictures with my DSLR, I transferred to my computer and made

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Patrick Lists
On 10/21/2012 07:06 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:59:26 +0200 Christopher Svanefalk wrote: What would be some key benefits of replacing X with Wayland? Loss of remote display capability? Destruction of compatibility for tens of thousands of existing applications? But it is shi

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/21/2012 09:59 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: What would be some key benefits of replacing X with Wayland? http://lwn.net/Articles/517375/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(display_server_protocol) Wayland lacks a lot of features that exist in X.org, currently. I think the idea th

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/22/2012 01:31 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 10/21/2012 09:59 AM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: What would be some key benefits of replacing X with Wayland? http://lwn.net/Articles/517375/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(display_server_protocol) Wayland lacks a lot of features that e

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-21 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sat, 2012-10-20 at 21:01 -0600, JD wrote: > On 10/20/2012 08:41 PM, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 10:05 -0600, JD wrote: > >> On 10/18/2012 09:16 AM, Tim wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 08:11 -0600, JD wrote: > I assure you the MAC does match the MAC of the Etherne

Unable to run systemd in an LXC / cgroup container.

2012-10-21 Thread Michael H. Warfield
Hello, This is being directed to the systemd-devel community but I'm cc'ing the lxc-users community and the Fedora community on this for their input as well. I know it's not always good to cross post between multiple lists but this is of interest to all three communities who may have valuable inp

Re: Whatever happened to Wayland?

2012-10-21 Thread Alan Cox
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:05:36 +0200 Patrick Lists wrote: > On 10/21/2012 06:59 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: > [snip] > > I have not been following this closely, but it sure looks interesting. > > > > What would be some key benefits of replacing X with Wayland? > > I'm not a developer but my g

Re: Enabling DMA for atapi cd/dvd/rw

2012-10-21 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:13:32 -0600 JD wrote: > # hdparm -d1 /dev/sr0 > > /dev/sr0: > setting using_dma to 1 (on) > HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device > HDIO_GET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device > > So, could someone please advise how to enable DMA > for the cd/d

logrotate/logwatch error on fc15

2012-10-21 Thread Alex
Hi, I have an fc15 box and I'm having a problem with logwatch. I'm using bzip2 for the compresscmd for logrotate, yet it somehow is giving the compressed files a gz instead of bz2 extension. Logwatch uses this to determine which command to use to read the compressed files, so it therefore is using

f17 no video signal on nVidia 8800

2012-10-21 Thread Alain Roger
Hi, i've just downloaded F17 and i tried to install it on my computer x86 having a nVidia 8800 GT video card. after seeing only the logo at boot process, now everything i can see is a black screen :( and the Led of my monitor is blinking so it means no video signal. is there any compatibility issu

Re: Konqueror: cannot connect to X server

2012-10-21 Thread Rex Dieter
Jim wrote: > Fedora 17 > > Apps won't start as SU , because they cannot connect to X server. > I can echo $DISPLAY , I get :0.0 as SU. use something like kdesu instead (or ssh -Y localhost or setup xauth manually). -- rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe o

Re: Unable to run systemd in an LXC / cgroup container.

2012-10-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/21/2012 02:25 PM, Michael H. Warfield wrote: How do we work around this problem in systemd where it has hard coded mounts in the binary that we can't override or configure? Or is it there and I'm just missing it trying to examine the sources? That's how I found where the problem lay. Wh

Re: [systemd-devel] Unable to run systemd in an LXC / cgroup container.

2012-10-21 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Mon, 2012-10-22 at 02:53 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Michael H. Warfield > wrote: > > This is being directed to the systemd-devel community but I'm cc'ing the > > lxc-users community and the Fedora community on this for their input as > > well. I know it's no

Re: Yahoo and thunderbird.

2012-10-21 Thread Bobcat
On 10/08/2012 01:39 PM, Sergio wrote: --- Em seg, 8/10/12, Rick Stevens escreveu: De: Rick Stevens Assunto: Re: OT was Re: installing Microsoft fonts: chkfontpath not found Para: sergiocmailbox-userl...@yahoo.com.br, "Community support for Fedora users" Data: Segunda-feira, 8 de Outubro d

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 13:43:17 -0400, "Michael H. Warfield" wrote: Now that being said, there's still some notable differences. Most of my machines (some F16 and some F17, some i686 and some x86_64) came up with p2p1 for interface names and his is coming up em1. Obviously something em1

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-21 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 23:02 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 13:43:17 -0400, >"Michael H. Warfield" wrote: > > > >Now that being said, there's still some notable differences. Most of my > >machines (some F16 and some F17, some i686 and some x86_64) came up with > >p2p1

Re: How can I prevent udevd from renaming eth0 to em1

2012-10-21 Thread Digimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/22/2012 12:15 AM, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 23:02 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 13:43:17 -0400, "Michael H. Warfield" >> wrote: >>> >>> Now that being said, there's still some notable differen

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-21 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote: > >+ACMAIQ-/bin/bash >+ACM >+ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1 >+ACM compatibility library for video for linux 2 > >LD+AF8-PRELOAD+AD0-/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype What is this +A stuff? > -- > +AFs-t

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/10/12 07:06, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote: +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash +ACM +ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1 +ACM compatibility library for video for linux 2 LD+AF8-PRELOAD+AD0-/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 02:21 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 22/10/12 07:06, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote: >>> >>> +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash >>> +ACM >>> +ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1 >>> +ACM compatibility library for video for linux

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-21 Thread Ian Malone
On 22 October 2012 07:21, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 22/10/12 07:06, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> >> On Sunday, 21. October 2012. 19.21.02 Tim wrote: >>> >>> >>> +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash >>> +ACM >>> +ACM force preloading of a 32 bit video for linux 1 >>> +ACM compatibility library for video

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/22/2012 02:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Neither do Iin the inbox. Yet, if I "forward" the message in TBird I > get what Marko sees in the newly formed message Interesting... Should have checked But if I view "message source" in TBird I also see... +ACMAIQ-/bin/bash +ACM +A

Re: Howto: 32 bit skype, working with a webcam, on 64 bit Fedora 17

2012-10-21 Thread Frank Murphy
On 22/10/12 07:55, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/22/2012 02:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Neither do Iin the inbox. Yet, if I "forward" the message in TBird I get what Marko sees in the newly formed message Interesting... Should have checked But if I view "message source" in TBird I also