Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Ian Malone
On 13 January 2013 20:12, g wrote: > > On 01/13/2013 01:59 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > <> > >> Gmail is slightly weird in several respects, since it's basically a > > that it is and why i do not use my gmail accounts for regular posting > to this tsl. > > >> In any case, the OP doesn't appear

rpmbuild without "minidebuginfo"

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
is there a way to specify in ~/.rpmrc or ~/.rpmmacros that locally build packages should not contain the new minidebug feature? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.f

The latest victim of systemd's PrivateTmp…

2013-01-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
… appears to be Apache. After installing the most recent systemd update: systemd[1429]: Failed at step NAMESPACE spawning /usr/sbin/httpd: Operation not permitted pgpDpjNB1_kbJ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subs

Re: The latest victim of systemd's PrivateTmp…

2013-01-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:32:19 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > … appears to be Apache. After installing the most recent systemd update: > > systemd[1429]: Failed at step NAMESPACE spawning /usr/sbin/httpd: Operation > not permitted I just installed updates (and rebooted) this morning and apache s

Re: rpmbuild without "minidebuginfo"

2013-01-14 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 02:32:18PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > is there a way to specify in ~/.rpmrc or ~/.rpmmacros that > locally build packages should not contain the new minidebug > feature? > I did not look very closely, but this post might answer your question.

Re: Steam on Fedora

2013-01-14 Thread Jim
On 01/13/2013 11:44 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/13/2013 08:33 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: I tried out Team Fortress 2 and everything worked without a hitch. Very impressive! Richard I'm not that much of a gamer, but a club I belong to has Joint Operations on its LAN and I'm fond of it. Does anyb

Re: [389-users] How to set up 389 client

2013-01-14 Thread Doug Tucker
When I go to System->Administration->Users and Groups, that new-user should be listed No, it shoudn't. It is not. When I do id new-user, it shows all the sssd information correctly and the POSIX attributes that I set in LDAP server. What do I need to do in order for the id new-user comm

Re: rpmbuild without "minidebuginfo"

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.01.2013 16:31, schrieb Suvayu Ali: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 02:32:18PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> is there a way to specify in ~/.rpmrc or ~/.rpmmacros that >> locally build packages should not contain the new minidebug >> feature? >> > > I did not look very closely, but this post mig

Re: Steam on Fedora

2013-01-14 Thread Patrick Lists
On 01/14/2013 04:54 PM, Jim wrote: [snip] Does anyone know if this version of Steam on Linux will play Call of Duty , Black Opts. Afaik those games have not been ported to Linux. Regards, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: rpmbuild without "minidebuginfo"

2013-01-14 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 05:11:34PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 14.01.2013 16:31, schrieb Suvayu Ali: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 02:32:18PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> is there a way to specify in ~/.rpmrc or ~/.rpmmacros that > >> locally build packages should not contain the new m

Re: rpmbuild without "minidebuginfo"

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.01.2013 17:34, schrieb Suvayu Ali: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 05:11:34PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 14.01.2013 16:31, schrieb Suvayu Ali: >>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 02:32:18PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: is there a way to specify in ~/.rpmrc or ~/.rpmmacros that local

Re: rpmbuild without "minidebuginfo"

2013-01-14 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 14.01.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: > ..that doesn't explicitly disable debuginfo generation)... Setting "%_include_minidebuginfo 0" in /etc/rpm/macros or in one of the architecture related macro-files should do it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or chang

Re: rpmbuild without "minidebuginfo"

2013-01-14 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 05:37:12PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 14.01.2013 17:34, schrieb Suvayu Ali: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 05:11:34PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > Can't you do the opposite of this[1] patch in your ~/.rpmmacros? > > honestly i do not understand enough what is

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 08:06 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 13 January 2013 20:12, g wrote: >> >> On 01/13/2013 01:59 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> <> >> >>> Gmail is slightly weird in several respects, since it's basically a >> >> that it is and why i do not use my gmail accounts for regular posting >> t

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 07:38 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 01/13/2013 07:34 PM, g wrote: >> please see post from and my reply to T.C. Hollingsworth. > > I believe that both he and I were referring to the last option in the > mailman user preferences: Avoid duplicate copies of messages if i do not see a

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/14/2013 10:34 AM, g wrote: it might be more proper to refer to this list as a 'usl' as it is a 'user support list'. It might be even better if you didn't invent personal abbreviations and expect the rest of us to know what they mean without explanation. I don't go *clink!* when I walk

Re: FC16 or 17 video noy working

2013-01-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
The live and install CD don't seem to work in VESA video. Bill Davidsen wrote: I'm ready to update a laptop from fc11 to something current (kernel and some apps are upgraded by hand). I want to boot from Live-CD just to be sure the hardware like me, and sure enough it doesn't. I started with th

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread poma
On 01/13/2013 11:03 AM, g wrote: > why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my > via my subscription and sometimes i do not? > > > Nobody's perfect. Cheers, poma -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https:/

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Ian Malone
On 14 January 2013 19:07, poma wrote: > On 01/13/2013 11:03 AM, g wrote: >> why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my >> via my subscription and sometimes i do not? >> >> >> > > Nobody's perfect. > Though that reply comes close. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.u

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 06:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/14/2013 10:34 AM, g wrote: >> it might be more proper to refer to this list as a 'usl' as it is a >> 'user support list'. > > It might be even better if you didn't invent personal abbreviations and > expect the rest of us to know what they mean with

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/14/2013 12:15 PM, g wrote: On 01/14/2013 06:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/14/2013 10:34 AM, g wrote: it might be more proper to refer to this list as a 'usl' as it is a 'user support list'. It might be even better if you didn't invent personal abbreviations and expect the rest of us to

Re: Dell Latitude D630 Laptop - Fedora friendly?

2013-01-14 Thread Steve
On 01/09/2013 03:44 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Wed, 2013-01-09 at 13:47 -0500, Max Pyziur wrote: ... per the subject line, any complaints? Any compliments? Much thanks, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com In my experience Dell Latitude Laptops work very well with Fedora. I am noww using my second and

firewall-applet

2013-01-14 Thread Gene Czarcinski
This is a little early since Fedora 18 will not be officially out until tomorrow. Did anyone test firewall-applet on a gnome desktop? On a kde desktop? I also tried xfce and there is got an applet on the panel. I am sure this is something about gnome shell or kde it it sure is not obvious

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Ian Malone
On 14 January 2013 18:34, g wrote: > > On 01/14/2013 08:06 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > so, i am now of belief that you have a misapprehension in thinking that > your post is a proper post and that it will help solve what i specified > in my first post. > > in other words, if you can not help, please

Re: Install fails with Xorg segfault on fc17

2013-01-14 Thread Alex
Hi, >> Turns out I was able to get it to install by choosing the second >> option, Troubleshooting, then choosing "Use Basic VGA", which must >> just load a basic VGA Xorg driver. >> > Glad it worked for you, I tried the basic graphics (uses VESA xdriver), > which didn't work, removed the "nomodes

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 08:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: <> > I gather, then, that you got my point. you wee making a point? wow. i thought you were being otherwise. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To uns

Re: The latest victim of systemd's PrivateTmp…

2013-01-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tom Horsley writes: On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:32:19 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > … appears to be Apache. After installing the most recent systemd update: > > systemd[1429]: Failed at step NAMESPACE spawning /usr/sbin/httpd: Operation > not permitted I just installed updates (and rebooted) this

Re: The latest victim of systemd's PrivateTmp…

2013-01-14 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/14/2013 05:15 PM, Sam Varshavchik issued this missive: Tom Horsley writes: On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:32:19 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > … appears to be Apache. After installing the most recent systemd update: > > systemd[1429]: Failed at step NAMESPACE spawning /usr/sbin/httpd: Operatio

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2013 02:03, schrieb g: > > On 01/14/2013 08:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > <> > >> I gather, then, that you got my point. > > you wee making a point? wow. i thought you were being otherwise. would you please stop trolling and childish-language before i get moderated again after said what i

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 09:04 PM, Ian Malone wrote: <> > Actually you've still misunderstood, actually, it is you who does not understand. so, here it, plain and simple-- if you can not help a poster, any poster, then do not post to thread with you non helpful comments or insinuating remarks. if you ca

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.01.2013 02:30, schrieb g: >> or go and look up more acronyms to play with. > > here is one for you i do not have to look up... > > K.A.F.B.A. please realize that on tech-lists nobody is interested in acronyms and child speak, from your posts the last days i would say you can not be old

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/13/2013 09:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> > well, if you do not want to discuss about something > do not post strange things like "also, good luck with > subfolders under inbox" which makes no sense at all please excuse delay in replying to your second post. i was not trying to ignore you.

Re: The latest victim of systemd's PrivateTmp…

2013-01-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Rick Stevens writes: On 01/14/2013 05:15 PM, Sam Varshavchik issued this missive: Tom Horsley writes: On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:32:19 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > … appears to be Apache. After installing the most recent systemd update: > > systemd[1429]: Failed at step NAMESPACE spawning /u

Re: The latest victim of systemd's PrivateTmp…

2013-01-14 Thread Rick Stevens
On 01/14/2013 05:38 PM, Sam Varshavchik issued this missive: Rick Stevens writes: On 01/14/2013 05:15 PM, Sam Varshavchik issued this missive: Tom Horsley writes: On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:32:19 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > … appears to be Apache. After installing the most recent syste

Re: The latest victim of systemd's PrivateTmp…

2013-01-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:38:41 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 11 Apr 19 2011 /var/www -> ../home/www > > But if this caused some unfathomable problem with systemd's PrivateTmp, I'd > expect apache to barf, instead of systemd whining. I did find something that objected to

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/14/2013 07:07 PM, poma wrote: > On 01/13/2013 11:03 AM, g wrote: >> why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my >> via my subscription and sometimes i do not? >> > > Nobody's perfect. very true. what bugs me about all this is this is first time i have ever had proble

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/15/2013 01:31 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> > please try not to act this way on tech lists so, what? you want me to waste space on this list like you are doing? it is you who needs to grow up. btw, my date of birth is 4 august 1940. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc Descripti

[OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-14 Thread staticsafe
"also, good luck with subfolders under inbox." What exactly is the problem? I have quite a lot of folders under INBOX (using Thunderbird). Sieve sorts my mailing lists subscriptions under INBOX/ML/$mailinglistname, and Thunderbird picks them up fine once you subscribe (IMAP terminology) to the fo

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/15/2013 01:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: <> > before i get moderated again after said what i think? do not blame me if you are getting moderated. it is your fingers on your keyboard sending email to this list that is getting you moderated. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . signature.asc Des

Re: The latest victim of systemd's PrivateTmp…

2013-01-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Rick Stevens writes: On 01/14/2013 05:38 PM, Sam Varshavchik issued this missive: Rick Stevens writes: On 01/14/2013 05:15 PM, Sam Varshavchik issued this missive: Tom Horsley writes: On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:32:19 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > … appears to be Apache. After installin

Re: Steam on Fedora

2013-01-14 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/13/2013 10:13 AM, David wrote: On 1/13/2013 9:42 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/13/2013 12:41 AM, Errol Mangwiro wrote: By the did anyone else see this? http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/8/3852692/valve-linux-steam-box-local-gaming-server I am eagerly awaiting this. Wondering

Re: Steam on Fedora

2013-01-14 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/13/2013 11:33 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: I tried out Team Fortress 2 and everything worked without a hitch. Very impressive! Richard "Wish List" - Note to self: add Team Fortress 2! LoL! EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription opti

Re: Steam on Fedora

2013-01-14 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 01/14/2013 07:02 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: > On 01/13/2013 11:33 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> I tried out Team Fortress 2 and everything worked without a hitch. >> Very impressive! >> >> Richard > > "Wish List" - Note to self: add Team Fortress 2! LoL! > > > EGO II IIRC, TF2 is free...

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/13/2013 03:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 13.01.2013 21:14, schrieb g: also, good luck with subfolders under inbox who needs luck there? "mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new" is your friend Thank you Sir! This is JUST what I needed! EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedora

Re: [OT] posting and receiving post

2013-01-14 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/13/2013 04:23 PM, Tim wrote: Tim: What's a poc? ;-) Patrick O'Callaghan: Part of a sig. But that would be spelt POAS... ;-) Speaking of TLAs, it always makes me smirk when I see someone refer to a computerised cash register as a POS (point of sales) device. Considering that the POS

enabling broadcom-wl on F17

2013-01-14 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, I installed F17 from scratch on a Dell with one of those proprietary wireless cards. I last installed Fedora ( would have been F14 or F15 on this machine) more than a year ago. At that time, I had to install broadcom-wl from rpmfusion (non-free) and wireless became accessible from what I recal

Re: The latest victim of systemd's PrivateTmp…

2013-01-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tom Horsley writes: On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:38:41 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 11 Apr 19 2011 /var/www -> ../home/www > > But if this caused some unfathomable problem with systemd's PrivateTmp, I'd > expect apache to barf, instead of systemd whining. I did find someth

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/15/2013 02:09 AM, staticsafe wrote: > "also, good luck with subfolders under inbox." > > What exactly is the problem? there is a known quirk with mozilla's thunderbird email client involving an email account's Inbox that has sub-folders. due to high email traffic that goes thru Inbox, ther

Re: The latest victim of systemd's PrivateTmp…

2013-01-14 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:21:19PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Taking an inventory of everything that I have installed, only > httpd.service and ntpd.service have PrivateTmp=true. Which is now > off. There are a few others, but they're disabled/not used. I think > that PrivateTmp=true is now co

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-14 Thread g
On 01/15/2013 04:02 AM, g wrote: <> oops. my apoligies. i did not mention one thing about moving folders out from under Inbox. before you make moves, if you do, that is, turn on logging for accounts. this way, should there be any errors, you will have the logs to help you find problem. of all t

Re: [OT] Folders under INBOX (re: g)

2013-01-14 Thread staticsafe
On 1/14/2013 23:02, g wrote: > > On 01/15/2013 02:09 AM, staticsafe wrote: >> "also, good luck with subfolders under inbox." >> >> What exactly is the problem? > > there is a known quirk with mozilla's thunderbird email client involving > an email account's Inbox that has sub-folders. > > due to

Re: The latest victim of systemd's PrivateTmp…

2013-01-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Matthew Miller writes: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:21:19PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Taking an inventory of everything that I have installed, only > httpd.service and ntpd.service have PrivateTmp=true. Which is now > off. There are a few others, but they're disabled/not used. I think > that

Preventing resolv.conf from being recreated

2013-01-14 Thread Alex
Hi, I have removed NetworkManager from my system, disabled it using systemctl, and enabled standard 'network', yet every time I reboot, /etc/resolv.conf is somehow recreated with information from a dhcp server on the network. I've also removed any package pertaining to dhcp, including dhcpclient.

Re: Preventing resolv.conf from being recreated

2013-01-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/15/2013 02:11 PM, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > I have removed NetworkManager from my system, disabled it using > systemctl, and enabled standard 'network', yet every time I reboot, > /etc/resolv.conf is somehow recreated with information from a dhcp > server on the network. I've also removed any pac

Re: Preventing resolv.conf from being recreated

2013-01-14 Thread Alex
Hi, >> How is this file being recreated? >> >> # Generated by NetworkManager >> search inside.mynetwork.com mynetwork.com >> nameserver 68.XXX.YYY.44 >> >> So frustrating. >> > > Add > > PEERDNS=no > > into your ifcfg- file in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts > > I assume you already have DNS1

Re: Preventing resolv.conf from being recreated

2013-01-14 Thread Bry8 Star
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I wanted to use my own local DNSSEC supported, DNS-Server, so i added: nameserver 127.0.0.1 but it was keep on overwritten with google-dns when rebooted :( and google-dns does not support DNSSEC completely and Google also keeps records of queries, a