Re: off topic - switching email

hello richard, On 01/14/2014 09:47 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Hi Gang, I want to change the email address to the lists that I am on; I could just add the new email to the list, but conceivably I want to rid the list of this address in favour of my institutional / university address. Is there a

off topic - switching email

Hi Gang, I want to change the email address to the lists that I am on; I could just add the new email to the list, but conceivably I want to rid the list of this address in favour of my institutional / university address. Is there a method to accomplishing this without asking someone from the comp

Re: Anyone upgraded from F19 to F20 with yum?

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 23:49:46 +0100 Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 04:41:44PM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: > > Any gotchas that I should be aware of? > > I did it the week of the release and didn't hit anything. I had a huge issue with one machine: the one that had blueman installed. I

Re: Anyone upgraded from F19 to F20 with yum?

On 01/14/2014 04:56 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > As a matter of interest, what is the advantage of doing this > rather than using fedup? In my case, I still use GRUB legacy as my bootloader. AFAIK, fedup doesn't work with this setup. -- ===

Re: Anyone upgraded from F19 to F20 with yum?

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 04:41:44PM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: > Any gotchas that I should be aware of? > > Thanks! I was thinking to go with you, but then I decided that the recommended way: sudo fedup --network 20 may be smoother, and so it was. Do you have any reason to use yum instead o

Re: Anyone upgraded from F19 to F20 with yum?

Suvayu Ali wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 04:41:44PM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: >> Any gotchas that I should be aware of? > > I did it the week of the release and didn't hit anything. As a matter of interest, what is the advantage of doing this rather than using fedup? -- Timothy Murphy e-m

Re: Anyone upgraded from F19 to F20 with yum?

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 04:41:44PM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: > Any gotchas that I should be aware of? I did it the week of the release and didn't hit anything. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change sub

Re: Freepbx for fedora?

On 01/14/2014 05:41 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/14/2014 05:29 PM, Jim wrote: On 01/14/2014 05:17 PM, Mark Haney wrote: Read my last sentence. I want to run it on an ARM platform. For some time, that will mean Fedora. What ver of Fedora is Redhat 7 built on? Will there be an arm distr

Anyone upgraded from F19 to F20 with yum?

Any gotchas that I should be aware of? Thanks! -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com Sent from the cloud -- where it's already tomorrow ==

Re: Freepbx for fedora?

On 01/14/2014 05:29 PM, Jim wrote: On 01/14/2014 05:17 PM, Mark Haney wrote: Read my last sentence. I want to run it on an ARM platform. For some time, that will mean Fedora. What ver of Fedora is Redhat 7 built on? Will there be an arm distro for it at some point? I just did a quick goog

Re: Freepbx for fedora?

On 01/14/2014 05:17 PM, Mark Haney wrote: Read my last sentence. I want to run it on an ARM platform. For some time, that will mean Fedora. What ver of Fedora is Redhat 7 built on? Will there be an arm distro for it at some point? I just did a quick google and found an ARM port called RedS

RE: Freepbx for fedora?

Read my last sentence. I want to run it on an ARM platform. For some time, that will mean Fedora. What ver of Fedora is Redhat 7 built on? Will there be an arm distro for it at some point? I just did a quick google and found an ARM port called RedSleeve that's based on CentOS. However, a

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

Hi On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Ian Malone wrote: > On the other hand the casual bug reporter can't be expected to be able to > determine that their bug is an upstream one, so if the package maintainer > or triager is able to look at a bug and say, "this is an upstream issue", > then click a

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

On 14 January 2014 20:17, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >Even reporting upstream doesn't always help. The problem I mentioned > has been > sitting upstream for 3 weeks with no response > > Yes indeed. That can happen. What did you really expect? You are not > using a commercial product with any kin

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

On Jan 14, 2014, at 12:54 PM, pgaltieri . wrote: > The general issue is there is an inconsistency with how Fedora bugs are dealt > with. Some bugs are triaged and re-assigned to the appropriate component if > necessary. Some are redirected upstream where they sit for weeks without > being ad

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:24 AM, pgaltieri . wrote: > I'm asking this question out of frustration. What's the point of filing > bugs against Fedora at bugzilla.redhat.com when the response I get is "ask > up stream they can help you"? I had a very good experience when I filed a bug in Fedora aga

Re: F20 has blurry font rendering

Michael Cronenworth wrote: Your e-mail made me investigate again. Font rendering changes in freetype. Just to update anyone that may (or may not, from the lack of comments) want to know: FreeType in Fedora 20 uses a new font renderer and the Cantarell font, which is the default in Gnome, beh

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:54:58AM -0800, pgaltieri . wrote: > github account just so I could post asking for an update. The general > issue is there is an inconsistency with how Fedora bugs are dealt with. > Some bugs are triaged and re-assigned to the appropriate component if > necessary. Some a

Re: Freepbx for fedora?

On 01/14/2014 03:40 PM, Mark Haney wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 1/14/2014 3:31 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Or equiv? The freepbx has information on installation on Centos, but not for fedora. We have Asterisk 11 (what the Centos wiki shows), but how to proceed. Or

Re: What is Gnome Screensaver?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/14/2014 03:21 PM, Steven Stern wrote: > I have it installed, but AFAICT it doesn't do anything, nor is > there a GUI to config it. > > I've installed xscreensaver because I enjoy a few minutes of eye > candy before the monitor is turned off. >

Re: Freepbx for fedora?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 1/14/2014 3:31 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Or equiv? > > The freepbx has information on installation on Centos, but not for > fedora. > > We have Asterisk 11 (what the Centos wiki shows), but how to > proceed. Or is there something 'better' than

Freepbx for fedora?

Or equiv? The freepbx has information on installation on Centos, but not for fedora. We have Asterisk 11 (what the Centos wiki shows), but how to proceed. Or is there something 'better' than freepbx? Also they are announcing Freepbx 12 on Asterisk 12. When might Asterisk 12 come out for Fe

Re: example kickstart (ks.cfg)

Hey pete! basically, starting to see exactly what a dual boot process is, how it works, how the cfg file is setup, etc.. and as I understand the drive, once can create different partitions, which can then be split to have multiple boot processes. I was looking into how to actually have a process

What is Gnome Screensaver?

I have it installed, but AFAICT it doesn't do anything, nor is there a GUI to config it. I've installed xscreensaver because I enjoy a few minutes of eye candy before the monitor is turned off. Please do not reply telling me you don't use gnome and I'm at fault or in some way deficient for using

Re: example kickstart (ks.cfg)

On Jan 14, 2014 1:04 PM, "bruce" wrote: > > Hi. > > Looking to see how to craft a kickstart (ks.cfg) file by hand that > demonstrates the overall process of setting up a hidden partition, as > well as regular partitions on the drive. > > I'm looking to play with creating a regular install of cento

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

Hi On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:37 PM, pgaltieri . wrote: > I didn't pay for the internal testing group, but I still had to fix > problems they reported. > Oh, come on. The internal testing group is not working for free. Are they? They are your colleagues. So the comparison is still off the ma

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:54:58 -0800 pgaltieri . wrote: > Even reporting upstream doesn't always help. The problem I mentioned has > been sitting upstream for 3 weeks with no response. 3 weeks? That's like a nanosecond in linux bug time :-). I've got bugs that are *years* old: http://home.comcast

example kickstart (ks.cfg)

Hi. Looking to see how to craft a kickstart (ks.cfg) file by hand that demonstrates the overall process of setting up a hidden partition, as well as regular partitions on the drive. I'm looking to play with creating a regular install of centos (or whatever) on the main partitions, as well as do s

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

Even reporting upstream doesn't always help. The problem I mentioned has been sitting upstream for 3 weeks with no response. I had to create a github account just so I could post asking for an update. The general issue is there is an inconsistency with how Fedora bugs are dealt with. Some bugs a

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

I didn't pay for the internal testing group, but I still had to fix problems they reported. On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 05:24pm on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 (UK time), pgaltieri . wrote: > > > ask Linus I'm sure he can help you" ? I guarantee you not very long

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Tethys wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> If the bug is a packaging or dependency related bug, then use RHBZ. If it's >> a feature request, or broken feature that surely would affect every distro's >> instance of that component, the

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 09:24:00AM -0800, pgaltieri . wrote: > I'm asking this question out of frustration. What's the point of filing > bugs against Fedora at bugzilla.redhat.com when the response I get is "ask > up stream they can help you"? > > I filed a bug (1040518) against the Mate desktop,

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > If the bug is a packaging or dependency related bug, then use RHBZ. If it's > a feature request, or broken feature that surely would affect every distro's > instance of that component, then file it upstream. Often the Fedora package > maintai

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

On Jan 14, 2014, at 10:24 AM, "pgaltieri ." wrote: > I'm asking this question out of frustration. What's the point of filing bugs > against Fedora at bugzilla.redhat.com when the response I get is "ask up > stream they can help you"? If the bug is a packaging or dependency related bug, then

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

Around 05:24pm on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 (UK time), pgaltieri . wrote: > ask Linus I'm sure he can help you" ? I guarantee you not very long. It > was my responsibility to work with whoever I needed to to fix the > customer's problem, but the customer dealt with me until the problem was > fix

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

I filed a bug (1040518) against the Mate desktop, and was told to ask upstream for help because they can help me. I don't understand this. I installed Mate from the Fedora DVD and I therefore expect the Fedora engineers to act as buffer between me and upstream. It should be their responsibility

Re: pata disc / sata host converters

On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:12 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking at a motherboard update and have apparently left it too > long: it's hard to find new MBs that have PATA connectors (there are a > few, but choice is pretty limited). The hard drives for this machine > are SATA, but the optica

Re: "liveusb-creator" versus "livecd-iso-to-disk"?

hi rday, On 01/14/2014 06:06 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: <> except that it's not a college course, it's a *professional* linux admin course as i make a living teaching linux and kernel programming and device drivers and stuff like that to corporations, so threatening to fail paying customers i

Changed behavior when middle clicking URL in mutt

I used to middle click a URL in a mutt email, and it would open in my web browser (Firefox). Now when I do so it prints it, including all headers. If I change my mutt config to include print="ask-yes", it displays a "key is not bound message". Right clicking on the link displays a (GUI) menu with v

Re: Root Frustrations (Solved)

hi mike, On 01/14/2014 03:48 AM, mike wrote: Thanks g! welcome. glad it worked. The actual line had PermitRootLogin Yes commented out! I removed the comment and all is well in Fedora 19. i thought about that i went to bed. i almost got up to post again, then i thought with you doing what

Re: what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 5:24 PM, pgaltieri . wrote: > I'm asking this question out of frustration. What's the point of filing > bugs against Fedora at bugzilla.redhat.com when the response I get is "ask > up stream they can help you"? At least you got a response. Half of the bugs I filed just r

what's the point of filing bugs against Fedora?

I'm asking this question out of frustration. What's the point of filing bugs against Fedora at bugzilla.redhat.com when the response I get is "ask up stream they can help you"? I filed a bug (1040518) against the Mate desktop, and was told to ask upstream for help because they can help me. I don

Re: Root Frustrations

Hey Mike, You could always/perjaps use VNC, and remotely access the vnc app over a secure ss tunnel, or just access VNC via it's regular/assigned vnc port. VNC works, gives you a complete desktop to run whatever you'd run on the normal desktop. And yeah, the downside is it's slower! -peace On T

Re: Fedora 20 on i686 machine

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 15:46:45 +0200, Kevin Wilson wrote: Hi, I installed today Fedora 20 on i686 machine. When I ran uname -r I so that the kernel I have is: 3.11.10-301.fc20.i686 + PAE Is the PAE kernel for i686 the default one ? or maybe I missed something in the installation ? The bre

Re: No Catalyst in RPM Fusion for F20, no updates for F19 -- any ideas going forward

You could always start with the last available SRPM and see if you can manage to update it... Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproj

Re: "liveusb-creator" versus "livecd-iso-to-disk"?

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Tim wrote: > jdow: > >> If students are involved I'd be inclined to find a fairly ironclad > >> method of preventing access to the Windows disks. Otherwise, students > >> being students, they will start unauthorized prying around on the > >> attached Windows install and potent

Re: Fedora 20 on i686 machine

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 15:46:45 +0200 Kevin Wilson wrote: > Hi, > I installed today Fedora 20 on i686 machine. > When I ran uname -r I so that the kernel > I have is: 3.11.10-301.fc20.i686 + PAE > > Is the PAE kernel for i686 the default one ? or maybe I missed > something in the installation ? >

Fedora 20 on i686 machine

Hi, I installed today Fedora 20 on i686 machine. When I ran uname -r I so that the kernel I have is: 3.11.10-301.fc20.i686 + PAE Is the PAE kernel for i686 the default one ? or maybe I missed something in the installation ? regards, Kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Hi Res Screen help

Hi All; I've installed Fedora 20 on a Dell XPS 15 with a 3200x1800 screen It works well but I need a magnifying glass to see the text. I tried going into system settings for KDE and setting the default dpi which sort of works for appps but I still have a teeny tiny start menu and taskbar (and

Re: pata disc / sata host converters

On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 13:12:04 + Ian Malone wrote: > (Actually, given how cheap new ones are I wonder if they're better > quality anyway.) New ones almost certainly will handle higher speed media and write faster (which would only matter if you write a lot of stuff, mind you :-). -- users mail

pata disc / sata host converters

Hi, I'm looking at a motherboard update and have apparently left it too long: it's hard to find new MBs that have PATA connectors (there are a few, but choice is pretty limited). The hard drives for this machine are SATA, but the optical drives are PATA. There are a few PATA to SATA converters whi

Re: No Catalyst in RPM Fusion for F20, no updates for F19 -- any ideas going forward

On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:34:51PM -0800, Steven Rosenberg wrote: > > If nobody cares, and nothing's going to change in terms of a packaged > Catalyst, I'd sure like to know now. > > But as a formerly happy Fedora user, this is pretty much a deal-breaker for > me. Officially there will never be

Re: "liveusb-creator" versus "livecd-iso-to-disk"?

On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, g wrote: > > to all who have replied. > > On 01/13/2014 11:52 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > <> > > just what makes you think that with all the students that will be > using the laptops, that there will not be one or two, or more, > that have experience with linux. > > all the

回复：Menu item icons

try reboot, or open the gnome program using "gnome" in the terminal. If this still can't work,u can try reinstall the gnome program 发自 Windows 8 网易邮箱 在 2014年01月13 17:29，"Marco Maccaferri" 写道： Hi, I have installed Fedora 20 and found that the menu items are no longer display

Root Frustrations (Solved)

Thanks g! The actual line had PermitRootLogin Yes commented out! I removed the comment and all is well in Fedora 19. I will try this later on Fedora 20 and see if it works there also. If so I will upgrade the whole place to 20 sometime this month. Thanks Again g. Mike D. On 1/13/2014 11:

Re: Root Frustrations

Good question. Basically a couple of specialized applications that I run because of work that essentially need to be invoked from a gui desktop due to the failings of the programs. I would guess that there might be someway to start a Gnome session from within a su session but, I am certainly

Re: Root Frustrations

On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 23:25:59 -0700 mike wrote: > I have come to the conclusion that the powers that be have finally > totally prevented root from logging into a graphic environment. > Before the deluge of why root should not log in, I have some reasons > that deal with the way I remote in from on