Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 13 March 2014 16:23, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 03/13/2014 10:17 AM, Kevin Martin wrote: > > I'm with you Mark...CLi all the way with the updates. And I like what > DNF does with skipping repos it can't find. BTW, if you set > > "metadata_expire=-1" in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf then the metadata *a

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 13 March 2014 16:17, Kevin Martin wrote: [] > Oh, and one other thing I noticed recently is that something has changed > in the regex handling. From time to time I would "sudo dnf > --enablerepo=fedora*testing upgrade" and that worked for awhile but now I > get an error that the repo fe

OT: Fujitsu Lifebook T734?

2014-03-13 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
I'm the maintainer of the G4L disk imaging project, and have been contacted by a user that has these machine, but they are freezing on the kernel load process. I build the kernel on Fedora systems, but the kernels are build from the kernel.org code. There isn't a panic or anything, it just stops

Re: AMD Catalyst Control Center doesn't work

2014-03-13 Thread Robin Laing
On 2014-03-12 08:17, Rex Dieter wrote: Marko Vojinovic wrote: ATI is known to have a notoriously lousy support for Linux in general and Fedora in particular. For their low-end and oldish cards, they provide specs on which the Linux community has built the open-source radeon driver (which works

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Making technical decisions for admittingly marketing reasons is, like > someone else put it, retarded. > Have you thought about the possibility that there is a set of tradeoffs either way and it is a configurable choice for that reaso

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Justin Brown
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Jan Zelený writes: > >> On 13. 3. 2014 at 13:41:48, Tethys wrote: >> > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Mark Haney >> wrote: >> > > So, let me get this straight, DNF doesn't check the (online?) repo >> > > metadata when I call 'sudo dnf up

Re: Wierd partition behaviour with BTRFS

2014-03-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > For what it's worth, if you experience Btrfs problems, using a newer kernel > is often one of the first steps for solving it. It comes even before running > btrfs check (a.k.a. btrfsck). Yes, word on the street is that btrfsck is a last re

Re: Wierd partition behaviour with BTRFS

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 13, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 14:27 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> And metadata is raid1 so it's mirrored on both devices. > > Absolutely no idea how that happened. I definitely did not > (intentionally at least) ask for RAID1. It's the defa

Re: Wierd partition behaviour with BTRFS

2014-03-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 14:57 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:56 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > > $ sudo btrfs fi df / > > ERROR: couldn't get space info - Inappropriate ioctl for device > > ERROR: get_df failed Inappropriate ioctl for device > > Right that should have

KMail issues after update

2014-03-13 Thread Stephen Davies
Yesterday my Fedora 20 automatic updater installed 178 items; one of which seems to have been KMail. KMail now says 4.12.3. I believe it was 4.12.2. Since then,the KMail behaviour has been decidedly strange. I can read mail, reply to mail and send mail but I cannot delete mail nor save it to fol

Re: Wierd partition behaviour with BTRFS

2014-03-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 14:27 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> btrfs fi df /home #this is short for btrfs filesystem df /home > > > > $ sudo btrfs fi df /home > > Data, single: total=78.01GiB, used=73.44GiB > ^ > > So this means the data profile is single, which means it's allocating > i

Re: kernel tainted?

2014-03-13 Thread Lawrence E Graves
On 03/13/2014 05:44 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Lawrence E Graves writes: On 03/13/2014 08:44 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: dmesg | grep -i taint root@JesusChrist ~]# dmesg | grep -i taint [3.320975] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. [3.320980] Disabling lock debugging due

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jan Zelený writes: On 13. 3. 2014 at 13:41:48, Tethys wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Mark Haney wrote: > > So, let me get this straight, DNF doesn't check the (online?) repo > > metadata when I call 'sudo dnf update'? That's how I'm reading this. > > > > If that's true, why the dev

Re: kernel tainted?

2014-03-13 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Lawrence E Graves writes: On 03/13/2014 08:44 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: dmesg | grep -i taint root@JesusChrist ~]# dmesg | grep -i taint [3.320975] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. [3.320980] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint [3.363461] nvidia: module ve

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:09:31 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/13/2014 07:04 AM, Mark Haney wrote: > > Making RPMs and yum more efficient is great, don't get me wrong. > > Making them faster != making them more efficient if they end up not > updating everything because they're using obsolete metadata

Re: Partitions

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 13, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Doug wrote: > On 03/13/2014 12:20 PM, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: >> Okay, found it. Now, it says that it is at 20006 megabytes, which I am >> assuming is it's size. But, I can't move the number upwards to give it >> more room. I went to the correct partition, clicked resi

Re: Partitions

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 13, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: > Am 13.03.2014 17:20, schrieb Hunter Jozwiak: >> Okay, found it. Now, it says that it is at 20006 megabytes, which I am >> assuming is it's size. But, I can't move the number upwards to give it >> more room. I went to the correct partitio

Re: Partitions

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 13, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 12:20 -0400, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: >> Okay, found it. Now, it says that it is at 20006 megabytes, which I am >> assuming is it's size. But, I can't move the number upwards to give it >> more room. I went to the corr

Re: Wierd partition behaviour with BTRFS

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:56 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > $ sudo btrfs fi df / > ERROR: couldn't get space info - Inappropriate ioctl for device > ERROR: get_df failed Inappropriate ioctl for device Right that should have been /home but you already provided that info. >> >> So if yours is co

Re: Partitions

2014-03-13 Thread Doug
On 03/13/2014 12:20 PM, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: Okay, found it. Now, it says that it is at 20006 megabytes, which I am assuming is it's size. But, I can't move the number upwards to give it more room. I went to the correct partition, clicked resize/move, and that's where I found the current size. I

Re: Wierd partition behaviour with BTRFS

2014-03-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 13, 2014, at 4:53 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 19:22 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan >> wrote: >> >>> (Sorry for the subject line but it's the best I could come up with) >>> >>> I recently installed F20 on a new

Re: krb5-workstation dependency

2014-03-13 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/2014 12:00 PM, Pal, Laszlo wrote: > If you check my output you can see this is what I did exactly :) > Somehow in fc20 krb5-workstation requires a different version of > krb5-libs than other part of the system > No, you did sudo yum inst

Re: after upgrading fedora rawhide this morning, no graphical desktop

2014-03-13 Thread Pete Travis
On Mar 13, 2014 12:58 PM, "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Kevin Martin wrote: > > > On 03/13/2014 07:57 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > > > recently, i upgraded my ASUS G74S laptop to fedora rawhide and it > > > was running nicely. then this morning, i did another "yum upd

Re: after upgrading fedora rawhide this morning, no graphical desktop

2014-03-13 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/13/2014 11:58 AM, Robert P. J. Day issued this missive: On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Kevin Martin wrote: On 03/13/2014 07:57 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: recently, i upgraded my ASUS G74S laptop to fedora rawhide and it was running nicely. then this morning, i did another "yum update", which

Re: Partitions

2014-03-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > LVM isn't a filesystem, Pat, it's a storage container that holds a > filesystem. To grow a filesystem on an LVM, you grow the LVM first (if > it needs more space), then grow the filesystem on it. Yes, I was aware of a certain lack of precisio

Re: after upgrading fedora rawhide this morning, no graphical desktop

2014-03-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Kevin Martin wrote: > On 03/13/2014 07:57 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > recently, i upgraded my ASUS G74S laptop to fedora rawhide and it > > was running nicely. then this morning, i did another "yum update", > > which appeared to update well over 200 packages (includi

Re: Nvidia Support

2014-03-13 Thread John Aldrich
Quoting CS DBA : Hi All; My shiny new Thinkpad W540 is due to arrive tomorrow. I'm preparing what I think I might need for the Fedora 20 install. Nvidia support question, the W540 is equipped with this card: NVIDIA Quadro K1100M 2GB Anyone have any thoughts on the best video packages that wou

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Joe Zeff
On 03/13/2014 07:04 AM, Mark Haney wrote: Making RPMs and yum more efficient is great, don't get me wrong. Making them faster != making them more efficient if they end up not updating everything because they're using obsolete metadata. That's just pushing the time needed for the upgrade into

Re: Nvidia Support

2014-03-13 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/13/2014 10:39 AM, CS DBA issued this missive: Hi All; My shiny new Thinkpad W540 is due to arrive tomorrow. I'm preparing what I think I might need for the Fedora 20 install. Nvidia support question, the W540 is equipped with this card: NVIDIA Quadro K1100M 2GB Anyone have any thoughts o

Re: Partitions

2014-03-13 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage
Am 13.03.2014 17:20, schrieb Hunter Jozwiak: Okay, found it. Now, it says that it is at 20006 megabytes, which I am assuming is it's size. But, I can't move the number upwards to give it more room. I went to the correct partition, clicked resize/move, and that's where I found the current size. Is

Nvidia Support

2014-03-13 Thread CS DBA
Hi All; My shiny new Thinkpad W540 is due to arrive tomorrow. I'm preparing what I think I might need for the Fedora 20 install. Nvidia support question, the W540 is equipped with this card: NVIDIA Quadro K1100M 2GB Anyone have any thoughts on the best video packages that would support this

Re: Partitions

2014-03-13 Thread Rick Stevens
On 03/13/2014 10:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan issued this missive: On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 12:20 -0400, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: Okay, found it. Now, it says that it is at 20006 megabytes, which I am assuming is it's size. But, I can't move the number upwards to give it more room. I went to the correct

Re: more selinux errors-SOLVED

2014-03-13 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 03/13/2014 01:09 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > I just rebooted, and got another error with selinux. The error says: > if you want to allow python to have execte access on the file- > You need to change the label on $FIX_TARGET_PATH > # semanage fcontext -a -t FILE_TYPE '$FIX_TARGET_PATH' > where

Re: Partitions

2014-03-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 12:20 -0400, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: > Okay, found it. Now, it says that it is at 20006 megabytes, which I am > assuming is it's size. But, I can't move the number upwards to give it > more room. I went to the correct partition, clicked resize/move, and > that's where I found th

more selinux errors

2014-03-13 Thread Paul Cartwright
I just rebooted, and got another error with selinux. The error says: if you want to allow python to have execte access on the file- You need to change the label on $FIX_TARGET_PATH # semanage fcontext -a -t FILE_TYPE '$FIX_TARGET_PATH' where FILE_TYPE is one of the following: abrt_helper_exec_t, bi

Re: Partitions

2014-03-13 Thread Liam Proven
On 13 March 2014 16:20, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: > Is it because I am booted in to > Fedora that I can't modify the size? Probably, yes. It is safest to use a LiveCD or Live USB stick to do partition manipulation. -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.

Re: Partitions

2014-03-13 Thread Hunter Jozwiak
Okay, found it. Now, it says that it is at 20006 megabytes, which I am assuming is it's size. But, I can't move the number upwards to give it more room. I went to the correct partition, clicked resize/move, and that's where I found the current size. Is it because I am booted in to Fedora that I can

Re: krb5-workstation dependency

2014-03-13 Thread Pal, Laszlo
If you check my output you can see this is what I did exactly :) Somehow in fc20 krb5-workstation requires a different version of krb5-libs than other part of the system L: On 13 March 2014 16:33, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 04:26:17PM +0100, Pal, Laszlo wrote: >> Hi, >> >>

Re: Partitions

2014-03-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 11:27 -0400, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: > When I installed my Fedooa, I had a partion for /, /home, swap, and a > boot. Now, I need to grow my / partition, but when I go to Gparted, I > see /sda4. When I expand that, I have /sda5 and 6. But they don't have > no labels, so it is har

Re: kernel tainted?

2014-03-13 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 03/13/2014 10:44 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >> cat tainted >> > 512 > that bitmask corresponds to a kernel warning having occurred. i > would just grep thusly: > > $ dmesg | grep -i taint > > which might identify the module that tainted the kernel when it was > loaded. > > rday dmesg | grep

Re: krb5-workstation dependency

2014-03-13 Thread Nalin Dahyabhai
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 04:26:17PM +0100, Pal, Laszlo wrote: > Hi, > > For some reason I need kinit which is included in krb5-workstation > (I'm using fc20) > > Unfortunately there is some broken dependency in the repo > > Do you have any idea how to solve it? > > [vlad@tohuvabohu git]$ sudo yu

Partitions

2014-03-13 Thread Hunter Jozwiak
When I installed my Fedooa, I had a partion for /, /home, swap, and a boot. Now, I need to grow my / partition, but when I go to Gparted, I see /sda4. When I expand that, I have /sda5 and 6. But they don't have no labels, so it is hard to discern which is which. Help would be appreciated. -- users

krb5-workstation dependency

2014-03-13 Thread Pal, Laszlo
Hi, For some reason I need kinit which is included in krb5-workstation (I'm using fc20) Unfortunately there is some broken dependency in the repo Do you have any idea how to solve it? [vlad@tohuvabohu git]$ sudo yum install krb5-workstation-1.11.3-33.fc20.x86_64 Loaded plugins: aliases, changel

Re: kernel tainted?

2014-03-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Lawrence E Graves wrote: > > On 03/13/2014 08:44 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > dmesg | grep -i taint > root@JesusChrist ~]# dmesg | grep -i taint > [3.320975] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. > [3.320980] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint > [

Re: kernel tainted?

2014-03-13 Thread Lawrence E Graves
On 03/13/2014 08:44 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: dmesg | grep -i taint root@JesusChrist ~]# dmesg | grep -i taint [3.320975] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. [3.320980] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint [3.363461] nvidia: module verification failed: signature

Re: kernel tainted?

2014-03-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Paul Cartwright wrote: > On 03/13/2014 10:23 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Paul Cartwright wrote: > > > >> I got this error report today: > >> > >> A kernel problem occurred, but your kernel has been tainted (flags:GW). > >> Kernel maintainers are unable

Re: kernel tainted?

2014-03-13 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 03/13/2014 10:23 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Paul Cartwright wrote: > >> I got this error report today: >> >> A kernel problem occurred, but your kernel has been tainted (flags:GW). >> Kernel maintainers are unable to diagnose tainted reports. >> >> not sure where to look

Re: after upgrading fedora rawhide this morning, no graphical desktop

2014-03-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Robert P. J. Day > wrote: > > recently, i upgraded my ASUS G74S laptop to fedora rawhide > > Wrong list. You want the Fedora Test list. ah, quite so, i'd forgotten there was a separate ML for rawhide. apologies

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Jan Zelený
On 13. 3. 2014 at 10:04:04, Mark Haney wrote: > On 03/13/14 09:52, Tethys wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Jan Zelený > > > > wrote: > >> The metadata are quite large and downloading them every single > >> time is time consuming. > > > > I can't think of an occasion on which I'd want

Re: after upgrading fedora rawhide this morning, no graphical desktop

2014-03-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > recently, i upgraded my ASUS G74S laptop to fedora rawhide Wrong list. You want the Fedora Test list. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.or

Re: after upgrading fedora rawhide this morning, no graphical desktop [SOLVED?]

2014-03-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Kevin Martin wrote: > On 03/13/2014 07:57 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > recently, i upgraded my ASUS G74S laptop to fedora rawhide and it > > was running nicely. then this morning, i did another "yum update", > > which appeared to update well over 200 packages (includi

Re: kernel tainted?

2014-03-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Paul Cartwright wrote: > I got this error report today: > > A kernel problem occurred, but your kernel has been tainted (flags:GW). > Kernel maintainers are unable to diagnose tainted reports. > > not sure where to look in /var/log, nothing in messages. > > what does it mean?

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 03/13/2014 10:17 AM, Kevin Martin wrote: > I'm with you Mark...CLi all the way with the updates. And I like what DNF > does with skipping repos it can't find. BTW, if you set > "metadata_expire=-1" in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf then the metadata *always downloads > from the repo. One thing I don't

kernel tainted?

2014-03-13 Thread Paul Cartwright
I got this error report today: A kernel problem occurred, but your kernel has been tainted (flags:GW). Kernel maintainers are unable to diagnose tainted reports. not sure where to look in /var/log, nothing in messages. what does it mean? -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and ne

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Kevin Martin
On 03/13/2014 09:04 AM, Mark Haney wrote: > > > On 03/13/14 09:52, Tethys wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Jan Zelený >> wrote: > >>> The metadata are quite large and downloading them every single >>> time is time consuming. > >> I can't think of an occasion on which I'd want to say

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/14 09:52, Tethys wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Jan Zelený > wrote: > >> The metadata are quite large and downloading them every single >> time is time consuming. > > I can't think of an occasion on which I'd want to say "updat

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Tethys
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Jan Zelený wrote: > The metadata are quite large and downloading them every single time is > time consuming. I can't think of an occasion on which I'd want to say "update this package, but not to the latest version". For installing new software, maybe. But updati

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Jan Zelený
On 13. 3. 2014 at 13:41:48, Tethys wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Mark Haney wrote: > > So, let me get this straight, DNF doesn't check the (online?) repo > > metadata when I call 'sudo dnf update'? That's how I'm reading this. > > > > If that's true, why the devil not? > > At a gu

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:35:59 -0400 Mark Haney wrote: > So, let me get this straight, DNF doesn't check the (online?) repo > metadata when I call 'sudo dnf update'? It's the size of the metadata some people complained against yum. ___ Regards Frank frankly3d.com -- users mailing list users@l

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Tethys
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Mark Haney wrote: > So, let me get this straight, DNF doesn't check the (online?) repo > metadata when I call 'sudo dnf update'? That's how I'm reading this. > If that's true, why the devil not? At a guess, for marketing reasons. People see apt as being quicker

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/13/14 09:16, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/user_faq.html#why-do-i-get-different-results-with-dnf-update-vs-yum-update > > So, let me get this straight, DNF doesn't check the (online?) repo metadata when I call 'sudo dn

Re: AMD Catalyst Control Center doesn't work

2014-03-13 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:17:12 -0400 Paul Cartwright wrote: > so, what should I install? I removed the catalyst software using the > uninstall.sh and now have the radeon driver in xorg.conf. At least > now I can move windows around without a lag.. should I install fglrx > drivers? No, you should no

Re: after upgrading fedora rawhide this morning, no graphical desktop

2014-03-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Kevin Martin wrote: > > > On 03/13/2014 07:57 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > > > recently, i upgraded my ASUS G74S laptop to fedora rawhide and it > > > was running nicely. then this morning, i did another "yum update", > >

Re: AMD Catalyst Control Center doesn't work

2014-03-13 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 03/13/2014 07:48 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > But what I remember is that this was not the case in recent years > (until last October, that is). Some years back when ATI announced the > release of the specs, there was a lot of hype about ATI supporting the > Linux community etc., but the actual

Re: DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:12:04 -0400 Mark Haney wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I've been using DNF pretty regularly since upgrading to F20 and so far > I'm not sure I see any real big difference between them. Although, I > may not be supposed to see a difference. >

DNF vs. YUM

2014-03-13 Thread Mark Haney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been using DNF pretty regularly since upgrading to F20 and so far I'm not sure I see any real big difference between them. Although, I may not be supposed to see a difference. The one thing I have noticed is that DNF quite often shows no updates

Re: after upgrading fedora rawhide this morning, no graphical desktop

2014-03-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Kevin Martin wrote: > On 03/13/2014 07:57 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > recently, i upgraded my ASUS G74S laptop to fedora rawhide and it > > was running nicely. then this morning, i did another "yum update", > > which appeared to update well over 200 packages (includi

Re: after upgrading fedora rawhide this morning, no graphical desktop

2014-03-13 Thread Kevin Martin
On 03/13/2014 07:57 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > recently, i upgraded my ASUS G74S laptop to fedora rawhide and it > was running nicely. then this morning, i did another "yum update", > which appeared to update well over 200 packages (including a slightly > newer kernel), after which, when i

after upgrading fedora rawhide this morning, no graphical desktop

2014-03-13 Thread Robert P. J. Day
recently, i upgraded my ASUS G74S laptop to fedora rawhide and it was running nicely. then this morning, i did another "yum update", which appeared to update well over 200 packages (including a slightly newer kernel), after which, when i booted, i had no graphical desktop anymore, just the littl

Re: How do I select which monitor kdm will display login on?

2014-03-13 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 13 March 2014, Ian Chapman sent: > I was having similar issues with GDM, where it would set up the order > of the monitors incorrectly, despite what was in the X configuration > or the desktop settings. Interestingly enough, the order was correct > when I logged in. *Your*

Re: AMD Catalyst Control Center doesn't work

2014-03-13 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:17:13 -0500 Rex Dieter wrote: > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > ATI is known to have a notoriously lousy support for Linux in > > general and Fedora in particular. For their low-end and oldish > > cards, they provide specs on which the Linux community has built the > > open-sourc

Re: Wierd partition behaviour with BTRFS

2014-03-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 00:05 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > I think you've stumbled into a bug. Since Btrfs directly supports multiple > > devices, it's like LVM or raid in this respect, and for LVM and RAID, > > anaconda might be eager to con

Re: Wierd partition behaviour with BTRFS

2014-03-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 19:22 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:11 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > (Sorry for the subject line but it's the best I could come up with) > > > > I recently installed F20 on a new system with a 120GB SSD and 1TB hard > > drive. I'm using the SS