Re: Libvirt networking question

2016-04-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/17/2016 02:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I get: Error starting network 'default': internal error: Network is already in use by interface virbr0. The "State" in the same window is shown as Inactive. The NetworkManager status for virbr0 is Connected, which may explain the

Re: dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On F22, the manpage for dnf says the update and update-to > commands are deprecated aliases for upgrade and upgrade-to. > > That being the case, shouldn't the update-info and > check-update commands also be deprecated and

dnf - deprecated update cmd

2016-04-17 Thread Jon LaBadie
On F22, the manpage for dnf says the update and update-to commands are deprecated aliases for upgrade and upgrade-to. That being the case, shouldn't the update-info and check-update commands also be deprecated and have corresponding upgrade versions? jl -- Jon H. LaBadie

Re: Libvirt networking question

2016-04-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2016-04-17 at 12:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 04/17/2016 06:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > I've been occasionally using a Windows 7 VM with the libvirt system > > for > > several months now and have had no problems up to now. However > > recently > > I've been getting

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Samuel Sieb wrote: > >>> The basic assumption seems to be that most people will burn a CD or DVD. >>> Is that true any more? > >> I think there's an expectation now that people won't be burning it to CD >> or DVD.

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 10:51 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 04/17/2016 03:23 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> >> I normally use the LiveUSB Creator to get a live OS on a USB stick. >> But as I said, this usually takes me a couple of tries, > > > You might try using unetbootin instead. Among

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/17/2016 12:52 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Joe Zeff wrote: I normally use the LiveUSB Creator to get a live OS on a USB stick. But as I said, this usually takes me a couple of tries, You might try using unetbootin instead. I prefer to try Fedora programs first. Understood, but there

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Timothy Murphy
Samuel Sieb wrote: >> The basic assumption seems to be that most people will burn a CD or DVD. >> Is that true any more? > I think there's an expectation now that people won't be burning it to CD > or DVD. That's why the size limits on the live images have been relaxed. If that is the

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Timothy Murphy
Joe Zeff wrote: >> I normally use the LiveUSB Creator to get a live OS on a USB stick. >> But as I said, this usually takes me a couple of tries, > > You might try using unetbootin instead. I prefer to try Fedora programs first. > Among other things, you can use > it for .iso files that aren't

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread g
On 04/17/16 14:14, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 04/17/2016 11:54 AM, g wrote: >> it seems that you and a few others need to read *all* of the page >> at linuquestions.org. >> >> after your read *all* of that page, you _might_ begin to understand >> how to modify an iso file. >> > Ok, I read that

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/17/2016 11:54 AM, g wrote: it seems that you and a few others need to read *all* of the page at linuquestions.org. after your read *all* of that page, you _might_ begin to understand how to modify an iso file. Ok, I read that page, what's your point? You still can't modify an ISO file.

Re: Libvirt networking question

2016-04-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/17/2016 06:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I've been occasionally using a Windows 7 VM with the libvirt system for several months now and have had no problems up to now. However recently I've been getting error messages from Windows about the network being "unknown" and my shared

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread g
On 04/17/16 13:40, Samuel Sieb wrote: <<>> > As has already been mentioned several times, you can't edit a file on an > ISO image even if you are root. However, you can mount an ISO image as > a regular user using the Gnome disk image mounter application. But > again, this is the wrong way

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/17/2016 03:23 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Because it seems to me to cut out one step in a fairly onerous process. At the moment I download the ISO to /dev/sda9 (or something like that), and then install it on a USB stick, which in my case seems to take an average of 2 or 3 attempts, and then

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/17/2016 11:28 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote: With your own domain name you could also set up your own mail server at least for the inbound email. Doing that gives you an unlimited number of "email accounts". I'm currently approaching 400 aliases to "jon". If I start a new relationship with a

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/17/2016 03:53 AM, g wrote: not only i do not, no one has be root when making an iso. *but* ever one needs to be 'root' user when editing files owned by 'root, as is case of loop mounting an iso and editing boot.conf, which is main of this thread. As has already been mentioned several

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-17 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 04:03:24PM +0930, Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 12:27 -0500, g wrote: ... > > Some service providers are just crap, and knowing that I've not used an > ISP mail account since I ditched my second one. That way, I'm not held > hostage to them. It's really worth

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/17/2016 03:23 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I normally use the LiveUSB Creator to get a live OS on a USB stick. But as I said, this usually takes me a couple of tries, You might try using unetbootin instead. Among other things, you can use it for .iso files that aren't from Fedora. --

Libvirt networking question

2016-04-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I've been occasionally using a Windows 7 VM with the libvirt system for several months now and have had no problems up to now. However recently I've been getting error messages from Windows about the network being "unknown" and my shared host/guest volume is unavailable. On the most recent attempt

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread g
On 04/17/16 03:17, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 04/17/2016 12:24 AM, g wrote: >> On 04/16/16 23:45, Kevin Wilson wrote: >>> Thanks, Mike, but this fails: >>> mount -o loop,rw >>> /work/down/setup/Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5.iso /mnt/loop >>> mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected, mounting

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Timothy Murphy
Joe Zeff wrote: >> What would that mean? Normally, you are overwriting the hard drive, so >> where would you put the installer files? > I think he means extracting the .iso to one partition and using it to > install Fedora on the rest of the drive (or even on a different drive) > while not

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/16/2016 11:45 PM, Tim wrote: Timothy Murphy: Slightly OT, and no help to the OP, but it seems extraordinary to me that there is no official way of installing Fedora from the hard disk. Chris Murphy: Start working on an implementation and propose it as a feature for a future version of

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/16/2016 11:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 11:15 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: I think he means extracting the .iso to one partition and using it to install Fedora on the rest of the drive (or even on a different drive) while not reformatting that partition. I'm not sure why he wants to

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 04/17/2016 12:24 AM, g wrote: On 04/16/16 23:45, Kevin Wilson wrote: Thanks, Mike, but this fails: mount -o loop,rw /work/down/setup/Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5.iso /mnt/loop mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected, mounting read-only s:/$mount -o remount,rw /mnt/loop mount: cannot

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread g
On 04/17/16 00:19, Mike Wright wrote: <<>> > Here's an idea. Mount the r/o iso. Make a copy of it. cd to the copy. > The copy will still have the original permissions but they are > changeable. Make your changes and save it as an iso (not sure how you'd > do that). > ===> that idea is

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread g
On 04/16/16 23:45, Kevin Wilson wrote: > Thanks, Mike, but this fails: > mount -o loop,rw > /work/down/setup/Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-21-5.iso /mnt/loop > mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected, mounting read-only > > s:/$mount -o remount,rw /mnt/loop > mount: cannot remount /dev/loop0

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Tim
Timothy Murphy: >> Slightly OT, and no help to the OP, but it seems extraordinary to me >> that there is no official way of installing Fedora from the hard disk. Chris Murphy: > Start working on an implementation and propose it as a feature for a > future version of Fedora? Why should someone

Re: Mounting (or preparing) LiveCD as a read-write

2016-04-17 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 11:15 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > I think he means extracting the .iso to one partition and using it to > install Fedora on the rest of the drive (or even on a different drive) > while not reformatting that partition. I'm not sure why he wants to > do this, but it does look

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-17 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 12:27 -0500, g wrote: > thanks to yuchahoo bouncing my good email, even after filling out and > submitting forms that lists.fedoraproject.org and 5 other subscribed > to list are desired, and, also aggravating is that yuckahoo also marks > good emails as junk and sends them

Re: gmail thought it was spam

2016-04-17 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2016-04-16 at 11:50 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > This seems to explain the issue. Yahoo basically wants everyone to > reject yahoo emails sent from other mail servers, which is what > mailing lists do. But Google is one of the few, I guess, that honor > this request, and that's why it goes