Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/04/2017 09:48 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Looks like systemd-networkd-wait-online.service is disabled by default in Fedora. Given that there are packages that require all IP addresses to be configured, and thus declare a dependency on network-online.target, it does not seem logical for N

Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tom H writes: > 192.168.0.1 is a static IP address. DHCP is not in the picture here. I > created bug 1509544 for this, but I am not holding any illusions, here. Is "NetworkManager-wait-online.service" or "systemd-networkd-wait-online.service" enabled? If you're using "/etc/rc.d/init.d/network"

Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Greg Woods wrote: > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: >> >> Systemd has no idea what "up" means for networking > > More accurately, the network-online.target doesn't mean what a reasonable > person would think it means. It actually means that the

Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-04 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > privoxy.service most certainly has: > > Wants=network-online.target > After=network-online.target > > I'm staring at this service file, right now. > > I have privoxy binding to an internal IP address, of course: > > listen-address 192.168

Re: OT: tool to download a video

2017-11-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/04/2017 10:31 AM, JD wrote: youtube-dl could not do it. The video is at http://www.pbs.org/video/wfyi-local-productions-temple-makers/ I have youtube-dl-2017.08.13-1.fc25.noarch and it started to download it. I didn't finish the download as it was 1GB, but I was able to play the part I

Re: OT: tool to download a video

2017-11-04 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 04Nov2017 14:12, JD wrote: You are correct. I found for firefox Video Downloader Professional and it works extremely well. I've also discovered that (ignoring flash), Firefox lets you control-click on a playing video and the context menu has "Save Video as...", very handy. Cheers, Camero

Re: OT: tool to download a video

2017-11-04 Thread JD
On 11/04/2017 01:42 PM, wwp wrote: Hello, On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 03:12:22 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/05/17 01:31, JD wrote: youtube-dl could not do it. The video is at http://www.pbs.org/video/wfyi-local-productions-temple-makers/ 3 words. "chrome browser extension" As far as I coul

Re: Off topic: google hangouts

2017-11-04 Thread Amadeus W.M.
On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 12:55:15 -0600, Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco wrote: > 2017-11-04 12:15 GMT-06:00 Amadeus W.M. : >> Sorry for the off topic, but couldn't find a solution to this on the >> web, so I'm trying here one last time before I give up. >> >> In short, gmail and google hangouts used to

Re: Off topic: google hangouts

2017-11-04 Thread Amadeus W.M.
On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 15:16:48 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 18:15:31 + (UTC) > Amadeus W.M. wrote: > >> 10) root:~> ls -l /dev/video* >> crw-rw+ 1 root video 81, 0 Nov 3 22:37 /dev/video0 > > Does your user have group "video" access? That's all I can think of. >

Re: OT: tool to download a video

2017-11-04 Thread wwp
Hello, On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 03:12:22 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/05/17 01:31, JD wrote: > > youtube-dl could not do it. > > The video is at > > http://www.pbs.org/video/wfyi-local-productions-temple-makers/ > > > > > > 3 words.  "chrome browser extension" As far as I could test, few firef

Re: Off topic: google hangouts

2017-11-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 4 Nov 2017 18:15:31 + (UTC) Amadeus W.M. wrote: > 10) root:~> ls -l /dev/video* > crw-rw+ 1 root video 81, 0 Nov 3 22:37 /dev/video0 Does your user have group "video" access? That's all I can think of. ___ users mailing list -- users@li

Re: OT: tool to download a video

2017-11-04 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/05/17 01:31, JD wrote: > youtube-dl could not do it. > The video is at > http://www.pbs.org/video/wfyi-local-productions-temple-makers/ > > 3 words.  "chrome browser extension" -- Fedora Users List - The place to go to speculate endlessly signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital sign

Re: Off topic: google hangouts

2017-11-04 Thread Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco
2017-11-04 12:15 GMT-06:00 Amadeus W.M. : > Sorry for the off topic, but couldn't find a solution to this on the web, > so I'm trying here one last time before I give up. > > In short, gmail and google hangouts used to see my camera and I was able > to do video conferencing, but for about a month g

Off topic: google hangouts

2017-11-04 Thread Amadeus W.M.
Sorry for the off topic, but couldn't find a solution to this on the web, so I'm trying here one last time before I give up. In short, gmail and google hangouts used to see my camera and I was able to do video conferencing, but for about a month google says no camera detected. The camera is a

OT: tool to download a video

2017-11-04 Thread JD
youtube-dl could not do it. The video is at http://www.pbs.org/video/wfyi-local-productions-temple-makers/ Thanx. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-04 Thread Greg Woods
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > Systemd has no idea what "up" means for networking > More accurately, the network-online.target doesn't mean what a reasonable person would think it means. It actually means that the base network drivers have been loaded, not that all the

Re: network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 04 Nov 2017 09:57:11 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Would anyone care to guess what the problem is Systemd has no idea what "up" means for networking. I have to start every service that needs the network to be up from rc.local with a time delay. ___

network-online.target appears to be very much broken

2017-11-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik
privoxy.service most certainly has: Wants=network-online.target After=network-online.target I'm staring at this service file, right now. I have privoxy binding to an internal IP address, of course: listen-address 192.168.0.1:8000 However, privoxy just failed to start for me, after a reboot.

Re: Understanding VPN client options

2017-11-04 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2017-11-03 at 20:33 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > On 3 November 2017 at 15:59, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2017-11-03 at 10:10 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > > Using a VPN all depends on how paranoid you are (or rather the OP's > > > father-in-law is). They certai