Allegedly, on or about 4 November 2017, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
> *All* public WiFi is insecure by definition since in general you
> don't know anything about who's running it. Whether or not that
> matters depends on your requirements. At a minimum, use application-
> layer security (HTTPS, SSH,
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Tom H writes:
>
>>> 192.168.0.1 is a static IP address. DHCP is not in the picture here. I
>>> created bug 1509544 for this, but I am not holding any illusions, here.
>>
>> Is "NetworkManager-wait-online.service" or
>> "systemd-networkd-wai
Samuel Sieb writes:
What would that even mean? That service has no meaning by itself. Of
course, NetworkManager will start the network interfaces even without it.
The whole purpose of that service is to delay any other services that
require the network to be started before running.
See
Tom H writes:
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Sam Varshavchik
wrote:
> If the packaging guidelines are for a package dependency on
> network-online.target, and especially if NetworkManager is installed
> by default – as it is, then it seems wrong not to have this enabled by
> default.
Would
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 08:52:33 -0500
Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Why is it so difficult to make sure that a service gets started after all IP
> addresses are set up by the system, for services that have this requirement?
Because systemd is brought to you by the same people that
brought you NetworkMa
Tom Horsley writes:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 08:52:33 -0500
Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Why is it so difficult to make sure that a service gets started after all
IP
> addresses are set up by the system, for services that have this
requirement?
Because systemd is brought to you by the same people
Hi.
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 08:52:33 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Why is it so difficult to make sure that a service gets started after all IP
> addresses are set up by the system, for services that have this requirement?
Using a dependency (Wants and After) to network-online.target is the
prop
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Samuel Sieb writes:
>>
>> What would that even mean? That service has no meaning by itself. Of
>> course, NetworkManager will start the network interfaces even without it.
>> The whole purpose of that service is to delay any other services t
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Tom H writes:
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Sam Varshavchik
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If the packaging guidelines are for a package dependency on
>>> network-online.target, and especially if NetworkManager is installed
>>> by default – as it
On Sat, 2017-11-04 at 19:51 +, Amadeus W.M. wrote:
>
> This is my desktop running Mate (not gnome shell) with nvidia
> drivers,
> which require Xorg. I've had the exact same configuration for ages
> (and
> video was working). I don't know that it's a desktop problem. Maybe
> SELinux
> is ge
The challenge here is that systemd considers "the network" to be up if
*any* networking devices are up. I ran into this on my MythTV setup, where
once the InfiniTV capture card was up (which uses a virtual network
interface), systemd would give the green light for every other service to
start up. O
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Justin Moore wrote:
>
> The challenge here is that systemd considers "the network" to be up if
> *any* networking devices are up. I ran into this on my MythTV setup,
> where once the InfiniTV capture card was up (which uses a virtual
> network interface), systemd w
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 12:24:15 -0500 Tom H wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Justin Moore
> wrote:
>> The challenge here is that systemd considers "the network" to be up if
>> *any* networking devices are up.
Probably only in the NetworkManager case:
When run, nm-online waits until Ne
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 12:41 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 12:24:15 -0500 Tom H wrote:
>>
>> In the networkd case, you can specify an interface
>
> Right but that is probably useless since:
>
> systemd-networkd-wait-online is a one-shot system service that waits
> for the network to be configur
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 14:33:42 -0500 Tom H wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 12:41 PM, wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 12:24:15 -0500 Tom H wrote:
>>> In the networkd case, you can specify an interface
>> Right but that is probably useless since:
>> systemd-networkd-wait-online is a one-shot system
Hi,
You're aware that F27 isn't stable yet, right?
Regards,
Silvia
On 2 November 2017 at 18:02, Beartooth wrote:
>
> Within the next three weeks or so, barring any great surprises, I
> hope to be putting Fedora 27 onto four PCs, a laptop, and a netbook. IIRC,
> the netbook, which I h
On Sun, 2017-11-05 at 21:31 +0100, Silvia Sánchez wrote:
> You're aware that F27 isn't stable yet, right?
I think that's why he mentioned doing in this in the next three weeks
or so, by which time it's hoped that F27 will be released.
poc
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On 5 November 2017 at 21:51, Patrick O'Callaghan
wrote:
> On Sun, 2017-11-05 at 21:31 +0100, Silvia Sánchez wrote:
> > You're aware that F27 isn't stable yet, right?
>
> I think that's why he mentioned doing in this in the next three weeks
> or so, by which time it's hoped that F2
Hi,
I have just purchased this mouse for gaming use (mainly under
windows). The mouse is both wired and wireless enabled via bluetooth. I
have purchased a bluetooth 4.1 dongle as my pc doesn't have bluetooth
and I have been able to pair the mouse to the dongle under Windows 10
and I am ab
Bonsoir,
Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
Thank you to share your experience.
--
François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45,
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 3:02 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 14:33:42 -0500 Tom H wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 12:41 PM, wrote:
>>> On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 12:24:15 -0500 Tom H wrote:
In the networkd case, you can specify an interface
>>>
>>> Right but that is probably useless since:
>>
On 11/05/2017 05:36 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Unfortunately, with systemd, nobody really knows how it works, apparently.
There do appear to be a few people here who don't understand how it
works, but that's hardly systemd's fault. This specific subject is
documented thoroughly:
https://w
On 11/05/2017 06:18 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
Because systemd is brought to you by the same people that
brought you NetworkManager
Yes, if you define "the same people" as "Red Hat." But in that case, a
great deal of the GNU/Linux stack, including gcc, glibc, and Linux (the
kernel) are brought
On 11/05/2017 01:59 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 3:02 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 14:33:42 -0500 Tom H wrote:
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 12:41 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 12:24:15 -0500 Tom H wrote:
In the networkd case, you can specify an interface
Right but that is probabl
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 14:19:47 -0800
Mike Wright wrote:
> I like that. Maybe something like a "systemd-networkd-wait-online.d
> directory that contains files named for the interfaces that have to be
> up and IP'd.
Then you find everything stops working when you get another
kernel update that brea
On 11/05/2017 01:30 PM, François Patte wrote:
Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
It depends on what you're trying to do. I use mediatomb to share media
files via dlna/upnp that my LG bluray player
Well, it works in Midori, in case anyone else runs into this problem. It
stopped working in chrome and firefox, and in skype, but google hangouts
video works in Midori. So it's not a permission problem, not SELinux,
nothing that stands to reason.
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On 11/06/17 05:30, François Patte wrote:
> Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
> broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
In the past, yes. But then more, and varied, devices were bought. Android
devices,
SmartTV, etc. Then friends learne
On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 08:09 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/06/17 05:30, François Patte wrote:
> > Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
> > broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
>
>
> In the past, yes. But then more, and varied, devices w
On 11/06/17 08:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 08:09 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/06/17 05:30, François Patte wrote:
>>> Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
>>> broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
>>
>> In the p
Tom Horsley writes:
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 14:19:47 -0800
Mike Wright wrote:
> I like that. Maybe something like a "systemd-networkd-wait-online.d
> directory that contains files named for the interfaces that have to be
> up and IP'd.
Then you find everything stops working when you get another
ke
Gordon Messmer writes:
On 11/05/2017 05:36 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Unfortunately, with systemd, nobody really knows how it works, apparently.
There do appear to be a few people here who don't understand how it works,
but that's hardly systemd's fault. This specific subject is documente
>
> Unfortunately, with systemd, nobody really knows how it works, apparently.
>>
>
>
> There do appear to be a few people here who don't understand how it works,
> but that's hardly systemd's fault. This specific subject is documented
> thoroughly:
>
> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/sy
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:54:11 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> I have a better idea. How about "network-wait-online.service, or whatever
> it's called, and whatever other services that need to be enabled, are
> enabled by default".
> If a service, like privoxy, requires all interfaces to be up,
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