[SOLVED] Re: Very slow boot in F27 after recent update

2018-05-07 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > I'm not subscribed to receive all the e-mails, so I answer to my own. > Hope not to scramble the thread order... > > Thanks for answering. > Here the output requested. > Possibly before the update, chronyd and gssproxy (and I see also libvi

Re: Unmount delayed -

2018-05-07 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 07May2018 20:23, Roger Heflin wrote: the second is "vmstat 1" and watch the bi/bo columns as they show reads and writes to the disk subsystem, if it umounts when the writes stop that implies the sync may have returned before it actually did all its work. Do you actually see this happen? Jus

Re: F28 HotPlug not working properly

2018-05-07 Thread Patrick Mansfield
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 11:12:16PM +0200, T_POL wrote: > On Mon, 7 May 2018 12:54:48 -0700 > Rick Stevens wrote: > > > On 05/04/2018 02:58 PM, T_POL wrote: > > > On Fri, 4 May 2018 14:20:13 -0700 > > > Rick Stevens wrote: > > > Both "udevadm" commands lists nothing after plugging the drive. > >

Re: Unmount delayed -

2018-05-07 Thread Roger Heflin
Generally when I am messing with usb drives I have used these 2 commands: grep Dirty /proc/meminfo (dirty is the amount of write buffers that need to be flushed for all disks, most will usually be the disk that was just copied to) the second is "vmstat 1" and watch the bi/bo columns as they show

Re: F28: gnome-shell crashes when using external displays

2018-05-07 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 12:44:02AM +, William Henry wrote: > Have you tried rm or mv of ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions. ? I don't have that file/folder. I simply hope some upgrade (xorg, radeon, or whatever) will fix the issue. Thanks, Wolfgang > > Sometimes new gnome doesn’t suppor

Re: F28: gnome-shell crashes when using external displays

2018-05-07 Thread William Henry
Have you tried rm or mv of ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions. ? Sometimes new gnome doesn’t support older extensions. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1575229 Once you can successfully login and launch gnome, you can add back in your fav extensions. William On Mon, May 7, 2018 a

Re: Reports of gcc8 vector-validation problems in F28

2018-05-07 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Federico Bruni writes: In fact, lilypond is another package affected: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1568274 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2018-05/msg00081.html It's been my experience, over the last decade, or so, that each successive major gcc release has had

Re: Unmount delayed -

2018-05-07 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 05/07/18 19:35, Samuel Sieb wrote: Then that supports my suggestion.  Unless the the flash drive is mounted with the "sync" option, the data is copied into the cache and the copy command exits.  The data is being written in the background, but when you want to unmount the drive, it has to

Re: Unmount delayed -

2018-05-07 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 06:44:51PM -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: [ ... ] > I copy the data to the device in a terminal, it takes perhaps 30 seconds, > when finished I close that to make the flash drive free and then go to the > desktop, click on the unmount and this last time waited ~125 seconds for

Re: Fedora 28 killed bugzilla :-).

2018-05-07 Thread Silvia Sánchez
Yes, it was a planned outage. I saw the email somewhere, I guess from Infra. On 8 May 2018 at 00:20, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 8 May 2018 06:52:10 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > Has the flood of fedora 28 bugs killed it? :-). > > > > Bummer. I wanted to add a comment to > > https://bugz

Re: Unmount delayed -

2018-05-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 05/07/2018 03:44 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 05/07/18 18:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: If it only happens after you write to it, maybe the drive is slow and the cache flush is taking longer than you expect.  Or is the first paragraph meaning that you click unmount immediately after mounting it and i

Re: F28: gnome-shell crashes when using external displays

2018-05-07 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 01:18:37AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > To make it work you need an X session instead of a wayland one, so should say: "X11 session" .. > you can use xrandr. Sorry Wolfgang ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Unmount delayed -

2018-05-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 7 May 2018 18:44:51 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > I copy the data to the device in a terminal, it takes perhaps 30 > seconds, when finished I close that to make the flash drive free and > then go to the desktop, click on the unmount and this last time waited > ~125 seconds for it to unmoun

Re: Fedora 28 killed bugzilla :-).

2018-05-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 8 May 2018 06:52:10 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > > Has the flood of fedora 28 bugs killed it? :-). > > Bummer.  I wanted to add a comment to > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1575297. Just tried it again, seems to be back up now. ___

Re: F28: gnome-shell crashes when using external displays

2018-05-07 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 10:13:25AM +, Stefan Hübner via users wrote: > No, the display is not blank. The login screen is displayed. It's enough to > hover over the top right login menu to crash it. > > I have no issues, when the laptop is used without external monitors. I can > live with that

Re: Unmount delayed -

2018-05-07 Thread Eyal Lebedinsky
On 08/05/18 07:48, Bob Goodwin wrote: . I've had this problem for more than a year but usually it only bothers mefor a moment and I move on. Today it was a bigger annoyance when I was trying to diagnose a problem with a flash drive. When I mount the device my clicking on mount on the desktop

Re: Fedora 28 killed bugzilla :-).

2018-05-07 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/08/18 06:10, Tom Horsley wrote: > I get a internal server error 500 when I try to > go to the redhat bugzilla now (Monday evening). > > Has the flood of fedora 28 bugs killed it? :-). Bummer.  I wanted to add a comment to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1575297. -- Conjecture i

Re: Unmount delayed -

2018-05-07 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 05/07/18 18:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: If it only happens after you write to it, maybe the drive is slow and the cache flush is taking longer than you expect.  Or is the first paragraph meaning that you click unmount immediately after mounting it and it still takes that long?  Another possibilit

Re: Makemkv Incompatible with mmdtsdec

2018-05-07 Thread Stephen Morris
On 7/5/18 12:25 pm, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/07/18 06:08, Stephen Morris wrote:     With the sudo dnf upgrade I have just done I received the following messages, which I'm not sure what to do about.  Problem: package makemkv-1.12.2-2.fc27.x86_64 obsoletes mmdtsdec < 1.12.2-2.fc27 provided by

Fedora 28 killed bugzilla :-).

2018-05-07 Thread Tom Horsley
I get a internal server error 500 when I try to go to the redhat bugzilla now (Monday evening). Has the flood of fedora 28 bugs killed it? :-). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedo

Re: Unmount delayed -

2018-05-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 05/07/2018 02:48 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: When I mount the device my clicking on mount on the desktop icon that pops up when it is plugged init then takes 2 minutes, I timed it today, to release after clicking on unmount. I would like to reduce that to something reasonable likeimmediately or n

Unmount delayed -

2018-05-07 Thread Bob Goodwin
. I've had this problem for more than a year but usually it only bothers mefor a moment and I move on. Today it was a bigger annoyance when I was trying to diagnose a problem with a flash drive. When I mount the device my clicking on mount on the desktop icon that pops up when it is plugged

Re: F28 HotPlug not working properly

2018-05-07 Thread T_POL
On Mon, 7 May 2018 12:54:48 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: > On 05/04/2018 02:58 PM, T_POL wrote: > > On Fri, 4 May 2018 14:20:13 -0700 > > Rick Stevens wrote: > > > >> On 05/04/2018 01:30 PM, T_POL wrote: > >>> I've noticed that Fedora 28 does not detect an external eSATA disk when > >>> it's

Re: F28 HotPlug not working properly

2018-05-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 05/04/2018 02:58 PM, T_POL wrote: > On Fri, 4 May 2018 14:20:13 -0700 > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> On 05/04/2018 01:30 PM, T_POL wrote: >>> I've noticed that Fedora 28 does not detect an external eSATA disk when >>> it's inserted. >>> If the eSATA disk is already plugged at boot, it's normally

Re: Reports of gcc8 vector-validation problems in F28

2018-05-07 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno lun 7 mag 2018 alle 13:28, John Pilkington ha scritto: On 07/05/18 12:14, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 10:40:39AM +0100, John Pilkington wrote: On 07/05/18 10:13, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 09:51:52AM +0100, John Pilkington wrote: The MythTV list

Re: Safe to reinstall kernel?

2018-05-07 Thread Danny Horne via users
On 07/05/18 18:10, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, 07 May 2018 11:33:42 -0500 Roger Heflin wrote: > >> Multiple versions of kernels are installed, so you will have to >> explicitly give it the version you want it to reinstall. > And the kernel is split in many RPMs. > > I suspec

Re: [f28] radiotray does not work

2018-05-07 Thread Marco Guazzone
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 05/07/2018 12:59 AM, Marco Guazzone wrote: > >> Unfortunately, radiotray does not work; it crashes on start with the >> following error: >> >>pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject) >> >> This is a well-known bug: https://b

Re: qucs simulation fail on missing library

2018-05-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 07 May 2018 14:54:59 -, patrick stanistreet wrote: > I have been trying out a package qucs for electronic circuit design and > simulation. > I can use the software to create a simple design but the simulation fails on > a missing > library.I tried compiling qucs from source

Re: Rescue kernel after upgrade

2018-05-07 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 9:33 PM, Chris Kottaridis wrote: > > I upgraded from F25 to F27 a while ago and everything seems good except at > boot up the rescue kernel is still showing F25. The other three kernels are > all F27 versions. > > What's the proper way to get an appropriate F27 rescue kernel

Re: Safe to reinstall kernel?

2018-05-07 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi. On Mon, 07 May 2018 11:33:42 -0500 Roger Heflin wrote: > Multiple versions of kernels are installed, so you will have to > explicitly give it the version you want it to reinstall. And the kernel is split in many RPMs. I suspect that the posttrans scripts of the kernel-core and/or kernel-mo

Re: [f28] radiotray does not work

2018-05-07 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 05/07/2018 12:59 AM, Marco Guazzone wrote: Unfortunately, radiotray does not work; it crashes on start with the following error:   pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject) This is a well-known bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1388161 Until Fedora 27 the foll

Re: Safe to reinstall kernel?

2018-05-07 Thread Roger Heflin
Multiple versions of kernels are installed, so you will have to explicitly give it the version you want it to reinstall. grep -i kernel /var/log/dnf.log to get the full names you need to reinstall. On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Danny Horne via users wrote: > On 07/05/18 15:37, Roger Heflin wr

Re: Safe to reinstall kernel?

2018-05-07 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
It would appear that it installed some of the items, but not others. The reinstall would only reinstall packages that were already fully installed. dnf upgrade would probable complete the process I generally do. dnf clean all; dnf update -y To see what all is installed you could rpm -qa | grep

Re: Safe to reinstall kernel?

2018-05-07 Thread Danny Horne via users
On 07/05/18 15:37, Roger Heflin wrote: > Reinstalling any rpms you have a reason to suspect have issues should > be just fine. I have personally reinstalled the kernel rpm a number > of times when the update aborted before completion. > > Tried 'dnf reinstall kernel' and that hasn't changed anyth

qucs simulation fail on missing library

2018-05-07 Thread patrick stanistreet
I have been trying out a package qucs for electronic circuit design and simulation. I can use the software to create a simple design but the simulation fails on a missing library.I tried compiling qucs from source and freehdl is a dependency. I think the problem is with freehdl as I tr

Re: Safe to reinstall kernel?

2018-05-07 Thread Roger Heflin
Reinstalling any rpms you have a reason to suspect have issues should be just fine. I have personally reinstalled the kernel rpm a number of times when the update aborted before completion. On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 3:54 AM, Danny Horne via users wrote: > Hi all, > > A few days ago I updated throu

Re: F26 update: gnome-terminal doesn't launch; locale issues

2018-05-07 Thread Germano Massullo
I had the same problem with F27->F28 upgrade. I solved thanks to your suggestion. Have a nice day ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: System-config-language

2018-05-07 Thread jarmo
Mon, 7 May 2018 15:41:07 +0300 jarmo kirjoitti: > After upgrade to F28 system-config-language does > not work anymore. > system-config-language Solved Somehow upgrade didn't install glibc-langpack-fi. After install, now system-config-language works also. Jarmo _

System-config-language

2018-05-07 Thread jarmo
After upgrade to F28 system-config-language does not work anymore. system-config-language (system-config-language.py:7592): Gtk-WARNING **: 13:50:13.217: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. Failed to set locale, defaulting to C Traceback (most recent call la

Re: Reports of gcc8 vector-validation problems in F28

2018-05-07 Thread John Pilkington
On 07/05/18 12:14, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 10:40:39AM +0100, John Pilkington wrote: On 07/05/18 10:13, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 09:51:52AM +0100, John Pilkington wrote: The MythTV lists have had several reports of problems apparently arising from new (a

Re: Reports of gcc8 vector-validation problems in F28

2018-05-07 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 10:40:39AM +0100, John Pilkington wrote: > On 07/05/18 10:13, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 09:51:52AM +0100, John Pilkington wrote: > > > The MythTV lists have had several reports of problems apparently arising > > > from new (and improved) vector-validat

Re: F28: gnome-shell crashes when using external displays

2018-05-07 Thread Stefan Hübner via users
No, the display is not blank. The login screen is displayed. It's enough to hover over the top right login menu to crash it. I have no issues, when the laptop is used without external monitors. I can live with that for a bit, but hope for help to get my developer environment back working. bad ban

Re: Reports of gcc8 vector-validation problems in F28

2018-05-07 Thread John Pilkington
On 07/05/18 10:13, Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 09:51:52AM +0100, John Pilkington wrote: The MythTV lists have had several reports of problems apparently arising from new (and improved) vector-validation in gcc8. Is there a temporary workaround? If you don't provide details (l

Re: bootchart-like utility for login

2018-05-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-05-06 at 16:41 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > Is there anything analogous to bootchart but > which works on the period between entering your > password and either getting a shell prompt (for > a CLI login) or a ready desktop environment (for > a GUI login). According to the manpage, boot

Re: Reports of gcc8 vector-validation problems in F28

2018-05-07 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 09:51:52AM +0100, John Pilkington wrote: > The MythTV lists have had several reports of problems apparently arising > from new (and improved) vector-validation in gcc8. Is there a temporary > workaround? If you don't provide details (links to the reports, etc.), then it is

Safe to reinstall kernel?

2018-05-07 Thread Danny Horne via users
Hi all, A few days ago I updated through dnfdragora, that update included kernel 4.16.6.  Some way through the update my PC froze, and after leaving it for a while decided the only option was a hard reset. The PC still boots to kernel 4.16.5, and there's no trace of 4.16.6 in the /boot directory.

Reports of gcc8 vector-validation problems in F28

2018-05-07 Thread John Pilkington
The MythTV lists have had several reports of problems apparently arising from new (and improved) vector-validation in gcc8. Is there a temporary workaround? It may be a coincidence, but the MythTV bug-tracker is currently reporting a temporary and apparently Fedora-related error: Something

[f28] radiotray does not work

2018-05-07 Thread Marco Guazzone
Hello, Just done a fresh installation of Fedora 28. Unfortunately, radiotray does not work; it crashes on start with the following error: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject) This is a well-known bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1388161 Until Fedora 27 the fo

upgrade F28 failed

2018-05-07 Thread Cédric AMOUYAL
dear Support, I Have done upgrade from F27 to F28 on asus laptop but I had a lot of problems. 1) On dnf system-upgrade reboot The systemd loop and failed.This is only for your information... But after this, I have done a fresh install f28 gnome wayland but I have 2 problems : 2) the right clic