Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 5/3/19 1:51 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Nobody will listen nor respond. It would be really nice to not have to read about this any longer.  (He says, with full knowledge of the irony.) -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 5/3/19 6:51 AM, Tim via users wrote: Allegedly, on or about 2 May 2019, Ed Greshko sent: When is jury selection? I imagine there must be an upcoming trial to address this travesty. :-) My vote is: Until it's officially announced AND released, it ain't a release. Even though we could

Re: new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/02/2019 11:15 PM, Tim via users wrote: I wish browsers would acknowledge a user's reload instruction as: start completely afresh because something didn't work right. There was a time when Shift-Reload would force it to get a new copy of everything, but that doesn't seem to make a

Re: How do I generate grub for legacy?

2019-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/2/19 8:23 PM, Todd Chester via users wrote: On 5/2/19 5:40 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/1/19 2:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Remaking grub.cfg, I get     # grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg     Generating grub configuration file ...     Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware

Re: new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/02/2019 11:15 PM, Tim via users wrote: Allegedly, on or about 2 May 2019, Joe Zeff sent: Even after clearing my cache, I get that from Firefox, but Seamonkey picks it up OK. Did you fully quit and restart Firefox? If not, it could be operating from something still in memory. I did,

Re: new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 2 May 2019, Joe Zeff sent: > Even after clearing my cache, I get that from Firefox, but Seamonkey > picks it up OK. Did you fully quit and restart Firefox? If not, it could be operating from something still in memory. When a browser gets stuck in the past, there's two

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 2 May 2019, Tom H sent: > We should unify the two lists so as not to have these delirious > threads on an almost twice-yearly basis. There would be too much noise. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 4.16.11-100.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 22 20:02:12 UTC 2018 x86_64

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 2 May 2019, Ed Greshko sent: > When is jury selection? > > I imagine there must be an upcoming trial to address this travesty. >:-) My vote is: Until it's officially announced AND released, it ain't a release. Even though we could all be expecting it on a prearranged

Re: How do I generate grub for legacy?

2019-05-02 Thread Todd Chester via users
On 5/2/19 5:40 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/1/19 2:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Remaking grub.cfg, I get     # grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg     Generating grub configuration file ...     Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration     done Uh.. I wanted

Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Robert Nichols
On 5/2/19 5:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 15:53 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 02 May 2019 20:39:34 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: TCP erropt = ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified. Nope, several minutes of staring and I don't get it. I've never been an IBMer

[389-users] Re: docs for 1.4

2019-05-02 Thread William Brown
> On 2 May 2019, at 21:28, Angel Bosch Mora wrote: > >> If you have a specific question though, I’d be happy to help! >> > > I'm glad you offered :) > > these are the attributes I'm currently using: > > cn: > description: > displayName:: > dn: > employeeNumber: > gecos: > gidNumber: >

Re: How do I generate grub for legacy?

2019-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/1/19 2:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Remaking grub.cfg, I get    # grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg    Generating grub configuration file ...    Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration    done Uh.. I wanted legacy, not EFI. What am I missing? Are you

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Neal Becker
Neal Becker wrote: > Sjoerd Mullender wrote: > >> On 02/05/2019 08.30, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> On 5/1/19 9:56 AM, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: On 01/05/2019 17.50, Neal Becker wrote: > It's too bad you can't get a bash prompt during the upgrade so you > could run > ps or something.

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread John M. Harris, Jr.
We could always have a policy of adding the Fedora version in the subject line. Something like "F30: Query here" On May 2, 2019 9:40:27 AM MST, Tom H wrote: >On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:55 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: >> On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 12:35 +0200, Tom H wrote: >>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at

Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Tim Evans
On 5/2/19 6:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 15:53 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 02 May 2019 20:39:34 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: TCP erropt = ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified. Nope, several minutes of staring and I don't get it. I've never been an IBMer

Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 15:53 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 02 May 2019 20:39:34 +0100 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > TCP erropt = ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified. > > > > Nope, several minutes of staring and I don't get it. I've never been an > > IBMer though. > > That's the

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 08:47:29PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > We should unify the two lists so as not to have these delirious > > threads on an almost twice-yearly basis. > I used to read the Test list as well as this one but stopped a couple > of years ago when I realised I wasn't

Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 2 May 2019, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 15:20 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > Looking at services on fedora 30 I didn't recognize > > from fedora 29, I did an rpm -q -i to tell me about > > the new tpm2-abrmd.service: > > > > tpm2-abrmd is a system daemon implementing

Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 02 May 2019 20:39:34 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > TCP erropt = ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified. > > Nope, several minutes of staring and I don't get it. I've never been an > IBMer though. That's the point. Their "explanation" in the messages and code manual was laughable

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 18:40 +0200, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:55 PM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 12:35 +0200, Tom H wrote: > > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > > > wrote: > > > > I pointed out that a post relating to unreleased

Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 15:20 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > Looking at services on fedora 30 I didn't recognize > from fedora 29, I did an rpm -q -i to tell me about > the new tpm2-abrmd.service: > > tpm2-abrmd is a system daemon implementing the TPM2 access broker (TAB) and > Resource Manager (RM)

Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
Looking at services on fedora 30 I didn't recognize from fedora 29, I did an rpm -q -i to tell me about the new tpm2-abrmd.service: tpm2-abrmd is a system daemon implementing the TPM2 access broker (TAB) and Resource Manager (RM) spec from the TCG. I haven't had such a laugh since my old IBM 360

Re: new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/02/2019 11:14 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 10:18:22AM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/02/2019 08:50 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: Hi everyone! We have a new questions-and-help centered forum at https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ and I invite you to try it out. I've been

Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade

2019-05-02 Thread Rich Emberson
This morning I got the dreaded grub prompt on boot. Took me 3 hours to understand what https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade was talking about. I did a bunch of searching and trying things out before I hit upon the configfile grub command.

Re: issues with F30 Live USB stick

2019-05-02 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ulf Volmer wrote: > On 02.05.19 18:32, Greg Woods wrote: > >> Anybody else seen this? Has anyone successfully created an F30 Live USB >> stick? > > Just use dd to write the iso directly to the USB device. Assuming, you > USB drive is sdb: > > sudo dd if=Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: issues with F30 Live USB stick

2019-05-02 Thread Wells, Roger K. via users
On 5/2/19 1:01 PM, Ulf Volmer wrote: > On 02.05.19 18:32, Greg Woods wrote: > >> Anybody else seen this? Has anyone successfully created an F30 Live USB >> stick? > Just use dd to write the iso directly to the USB device. Assuming, you > USB drive is sdb: > > sudo dd

Re: new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 10:18:22AM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/02/2019 08:50 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > >Hi everyone! We have a new questions-and-help centered forum at > >https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ and I invite you to try it out. > I've been getting nothing but Error 503 Backend fetch

Re: issues with F30 Live USB stick

2019-05-02 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 02.05.19 18:32, Greg Woods wrote: > Anybody else seen this? Has anyone successfully created an F30 Live USB > stick? Just use dd to write the iso directly to the USB device. Assuming, you USB drive is sdb: sudo dd if=Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso bs=1M of=/dev/sdb Works for me.

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:55 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 12:35 +0200, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM Patrick O'Callaghan >> wrote: >>> I pointed out that a post relating to unreleased software should >>> go on the Test list. That is the official policy

issues with F30 Live USB stick

2019-05-02 Thread Greg Woods
I created an F30 Live USB stick, but it won't boot properly. What happens is that it drops into emergency mode (dracut). Prior to this, journal messages from dracut-initqueue appear on the screen, the same message repeating every few seconds for a minute or so, then it drops into emergency mode.

Re: new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/02/2019 08:50 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: Hi everyone! We have a new questions-and-help centered forum at https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ and I invite you to try it out. I've been getting nothing but Error 503 Backend fetch failed and a Guru meditation from there for several days now.

Re: Eclipse and Fedora 30 upgrade issue

2019-05-02 Thread David Dusanic
Matthew Saltzman: Is there a workaround for the issue where the Fedora 30 upgrade decides that all of Eclipse is not compatible with Fedora 30 and removes the complete collection of Eclipse packages? If it's best to wait until the issue is resolved before upgrading, will GNOME Software

Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade

2019-05-02 Thread David Dusanic
Am 01.05.19 um 00:03 schrieb Chris Murphy: Just a heads up that this can be an issue, but I'm not sure how common it is. It applies to BIOS (not UEFI) firmware, and for systems that originally had Fedora 20 or older installed and also never had 'grub2-install' issued since then. Therefore it can

new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Matthew Miller
Hi everyone! We have a new questions-and-help centered forum at https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ and I invite you to try it out. (This is based on the Discourse software, same as https://discussion.fedoraproject.org but with a different site mission.) This mailing list isn't going anywhere, but as

rpmfusion nvidia drivers and BLS?

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
I have theoretically disabled the BLS stuff (so I can boot fedora 30 with the configfile command from an older grub that knows nothing of the BLS support in the configfile). This worked, but now I wonder about the state of the rpmfusion nvidia drivers and what they can deal with when changing

Re: (fedora) Re: Printing problems after upgrade to F30

2019-05-02 Thread Jouk Jansen
berend.de.schouwer wrote on 2-MAY-2019 10:55:14.20 >On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 09:23 +0200, Jouk Jansen wrote: >> berend.de.schouwer wrote on 1-MAY-2019 16:37:59.62 >> >> > On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 11:48 +0200, Jouk Jansen wrote: >> > > If I try to reconfigure the printer via cups and indicate that >> >

Re: I say thanks for a new release !

2019-05-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 07:35:05PM -, sixpack13 wrote: > anyone ?! You're welcome. :) On behalf of everyone, thanks for the appreciation! -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade

2019-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 8:10 AM Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 5/1/19 8:24 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> It happens if the most recent 'grub2-install' happened with a Fedora >> 20 or older GRUB package. e.g. if you installed Fedora 20 clean, then >> did an OS upgrade every 6-12 months all the way

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 12:35 +0200, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > I pointed out that a post relating to unreleased software should go on > > the Test list. That is the official policy of this list. > > AFAIK, it's from time that this email [1] is

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 18:40 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > When is jury selection? > > I imagine there must be an upcoming trial to address this travesty. Quite. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: IcedTeaWeb: (/usr/bin/javaws): how to run it from firefox with -noupdate option?

2019-05-02 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mer, 01/05/2019 alle 17.36 -0700, stan via users ha scritto: > Since this is an issue with firefox No, this is not a FF problem. If you download the jnlp file into a temp dir, then try to open via line command, you get the same problem [lesca@dodo ~]$ wget -q

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Neal Becker
Sjoerd Mullender wrote: > On 02/05/2019 08.30, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 5/1/19 9:56 AM, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: >>> On 01/05/2019 17.50, Neal Becker wrote: It's too bad you can't get a bash prompt during the upgrade so you could run ps or something. My laptop doesn't have a disk

[389-users] Re: docs for 1.4

2019-05-02 Thread Angel Bosch Mora
> If you have a specific question though, I’d be happy to help! > I'm glad you offered :) these are the attributes I'm currently using: cn: description: displayName:: dn: employeeNumber: gecos: gidNumber: homeDirectory: loginShell: mail: manager: member: memberOf: objectClass:

Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade

2019-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:19 PM Charles R. Dennett wrote: > On 5/1/19 11:07 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 12:48 PM Charles R. Dennett >> wrote: >>> >>> Is there any way to tell just by looking for the presence or absence >>> of any particular file or directory that you would run

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Ed Greshko
When is jury selection? I imagine there must be an upcoming trial to address this travesty. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I pointed out that a post relating to unreleased software should go on > the Test list. That is the official policy of this list. AFAIK, it's from time that this email [1] is sent that the "users" list is ok, not from the time that

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 08:49 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 5/2/19 8:32 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 4/30/19 8:33 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > You redirected the OP to test@, at a point in time, when - though fc30 > > > had not been formally announced - fc30 already had been in place on >

Re: (fedora) Re: Printing problems after upgrade to F30

2019-05-02 Thread Berend De Schouwer
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 09:23 +0200, Jouk Jansen wrote: > berend.de.schouwer wrote on 1-MAY-2019 16:37:59.62 > > > On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 11:48 +0200, Jouk Jansen wrote: > > > If I try to reconfigure the printer via cups and indicate that > > > the > > > printer > > > is to be shared, I get the

Re: How do I generate grub for legacy?

2019-05-02 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 5/1/19 2:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I have a Fedora 30 flash drive set up for dual booting from Legacy or UEFI.  It boots beautifully from UEFI. (It also have a bios_grub partition). It booted perfectly from both under Fedora 29. Now when booting from legacy, it go into

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Sjoerd Mullender
On 02/05/2019 08.30, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/1/19 9:56 AM, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: >> On 01/05/2019 17.50, Neal Becker wrote: >>> It's too bad you can't get a bash prompt during the upgrade so you >>> could run >>> ps or something.  My laptop doesn't have a disk activity light, so >>> there's

Re: (fedora) Re: Printing problems after upgrade to F30

2019-05-02 Thread Jouk Jansen
berend.de.schouwer wrote on 1-MAY-2019 16:37:59.62 >On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 11:48 +0200, Jouk Jansen wrote: >> >> If I try to reconfigure the printer via cups and indicate that the >> printer >> is to be shared, I get the message that sharing is not possible for a >> Kerberos-printer. On this

Re: spamprobe

2019-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/1/19 9:57 PM, Scott van Looy via users wrote: db_verify sp_words Lots of lines like: db_verify: BDB1087 Page 5308: Btree level incorrect: got 0, expected 1 db_verify: BDB0501 Page 5309: btree or recno page is of inappropriate type 0 db_verify: BDB0502 Page 5309: totally zeroed page Then

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 5/2/19 8:32 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/30/19 8:33 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: You redirected the OP to test@, at a point in time, when - though fc30 had not been formally announced - fc30 already had been in place on the download servers. That said, you were just behaving bureaucratic and

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/30/19 8:33 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: You redirected the OP to test@, at a point in time, when - though fc30 had not been formally announced - fc30 already had been in place on the download servers. That said, you were just behaving bureaucratic and nit-picking, IMHO. Even though it had

Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/1/19 9:56 AM, Sjoerd Mullender wrote: On 01/05/2019 17.50, Neal Becker wrote: It's too bad you can't get a bash prompt during the upgrade so you could run ps or something. My laptop doesn't have a disk activity light, so there's no way to tell if it's doing anything. I've been able to

Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade

2019-05-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 5/1/19 8:24 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: It happens if the most recent 'grub2-install' happened with a Fedora 20 or older GRUB package. e.g. if you installed Fedora 20 clean, then did an OS upgrade every 6-12 months all the way through to Fedora 30, then you'd probably run into this bug. But if