Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Tim via users
Tim wrote: >> But that won't work, anymore. The log returns: >> >> rc.local: fetchmail: open: /home/tim/.fetchmailrc: Permission denied Samuel Sieb: > What is the output of the following command: > ls -lZ /home/tim/.fetchmailrc > > If it doesn't include "fetchmail_home_t", then do: > restorecon

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 7/11/19 12:03 PM, Tim via users wrote: > On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 11:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> I just installed F30 Workstation from the LiveISO image. The install >> process didn't ask to create a root or user account. This is the new >> expected behavior. > Mine did. I used the MATE spin,

Re: rpmfusion nonfree tainted ....

2019-07-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 7/11/19 12:05 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I just realized I didn't have the "tainted" repos installed. I know that feeling.  :-) -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- u

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 9:03 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 11:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: I just installed F30 Workstation from the LiveISO image. The install process didn't ask to create a root or user account. This is the new expected behavior. Mine did. I used the MATE spin, booted o

Re: rpmfusion nonfree tainted ....

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 8:59 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 7/11/19 11:57 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Which repo file did you install?  I'm hoping you used the -release rpms from rpmfusion. But you must have added some other repo as well though.  I don't see any dvb-firmware package in either Fedora or rpmfusion. [

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 11:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I just installed F30 Workstation from the LiveISO image. The install > process didn't ask to create a root or user account. This is the new > expected behavior. Mine did. I used the MATE spin, booted off a flash drive. You get the usual se

Re: rpmfusion still broken

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 7:05 PM, JD wrote: warning: /var/cache/dnf/rpmfusion-free-updates-c9c282509e45419b/packages/mpv-0.29.1-6.fc30.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID c0aeda6e: NOKEY RPM Fusion for Fedora 30 - Free - Updates  0.0  B/s |   0 B

Re: rpmfusion nonfree tainted ....

2019-07-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 7/11/19 11:57 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 7/10/19 8:47 PM, JD wrote: >> Installed the repo file, but >> >> dnf install \*-firmware >> >> yields >> >> rror: Transaction check error: >>    file /lib/firmware/v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw conflicts between attempted >> installs of >> ivtv-firmware-2:200

Re: rpmfusion nonfree tainted ....

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 8:47 PM, JD wrote: Installed the repo file, but dnf install \*-firmware yields rror: Transaction check error:   file /lib/firmware/v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw conflicts between attempted installs of ivtv-firmware-2:20080701-36.fc30.noarch and dvb-firmware-20170329-4.git3fef04a.fc30.n

Re: F30: Suspend to disk - and then reboot does not restore the suspended session.

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 8:41 PM, JD wrote: What is the fix for this? You have "reboot" in the subject. I'll assume you just mean that you turn it back on. Check the kernel cmdline to verify that there is a resume option and that the indicated block device is the active swap. __

Re: F30 Thunderbird format question

2019-07-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 7/11/19 11:39 AM, JD wrote: > Writing a new message always starts the format in "Pararaph" mode > > instead of  "Body Text" > > And this leads to the messages being double spaced. > > How can I change it so it will default to Body Text every time? > > Thanx! Preferences-->Composition (find th

rpmfusion nonfree tainted ....

2019-07-10 Thread JD
Installed the repo file, but dnf install \*-firmware yields rror: Transaction check error:   file /lib/firmware/v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw conflicts between attempted installs of ivtv-firmware-2:20080701-36.fc30.noarch and dvb-firmware-20170329-4.git3fef04a.fc30.noarch   file /lib/firmware/v4l-c

F30: Suspend to disk - and then reboot does not restore the suspended session.

2019-07-10 Thread JD
What is the fix for this? Thanx!! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Gu

F30 Thunderbird format question

2019-07-10 Thread JD
Writing a new message always starts the format in "Pararaph" mode instead of  "Body Text" And this leads to the messages being double spaced. How can I change it so it will default to Body Text every time? Thanx! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists

Re: Failed to upgrade to F-30

2019-07-10 Thread JD
On 7/10/19 8:27 PM, stan via users wrote: On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:14:28 -0600 JD wrote: Justtried to download some things that are on rpmfusion. I got several lines of the type: Public key for x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm is not installed. Failing package is: x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64

Re: Failed to upgrade to F-30

2019-07-10 Thread JD
On 7/10/19 8:27 PM, stan via users wrote: On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:14:28 -0600 JD wrote: Justtried to download some things that are on rpmfusion. I got several lines of the type: Public key for x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm is not installed. Failing package is: x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64

Re: rpmfusion still broken

2019-07-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 7/11/19 10:05 AM, JD wrote: > # dnf -y install smplayer > Last metadata expiration check: 5:42:42 ago on Wed 10 Jul 2019 08:11:20 PM > Boise. > Dependencies resolved. > === > >  P

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 7/11/19 10:00 AM, JD wrote: > I tried it Ed. > > No go. > > It keeps saying that authentication failed. I don't know what you're doing wrong. I just installed F30 Workstation from the LiveISO image.  The install process didn't ask to create a root or user account.  This is the new expected b

Re: Failed to upgrade to F-30

2019-07-10 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:14:28 -0600 JD wrote: > Justtried to download some things that are on rpmfusion. I got > several lines of the type: > > Public key for x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64.rpm is not installed. > Failing package is: x265-libs-3.0-2.fc30.x86_64 >  GPG Keys are configured as: > fi

rpmfusion still broken

2019-07-10 Thread JD
# dnf -y install smplayer Last metadata expiration check: 5:42:42 ago on Wed 10 Jul 2019 08:11:20 PM Boise. Dependencies resolved. ===  Package  Architecture Versio

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread JD
On 7/10/19 5:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 7/11/19 6:45 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 7/10/19 3:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/10/2019 02:37 PM, Alessio wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 9:04 PM sixpack13 mailto:sixpac...@online.de>> wrote:     wasn't su disallowed during the last fedora upgrades ? No.

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/10/2019 04:45 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: So much overreaction to incorrect information.  Yes, by default, the root password is locked, which has been the case for a long time.  The installer lets you set it if you want.  There is no change to su or sudo.  As always, if the root password is

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 4:46 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I don't have a running Workstation instance at the moment.  However, I seem to recall if one is hard-up about using "su -" they can "sudo passwd root" and create a pw and then "su -" will function as before. Exactly. Nothing has changed.

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 7/11/19 6:45 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 7/10/19 3:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 07/10/2019 02:37 PM, Alessio wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 9:04 PM sixpack13 >> > wrote: >>> >>>     wasn't su disallowed during the last fedora upgrades ? >>> >>> No. >>> As far as I k

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 5:05 AM, Tim via users wrote: But that won't work, anymore. The log returns: rc.local: fetchmail: open: /home/tim/.fetchmailrc: Permission denied What is the output of the following command: ls -lZ /home/tim/.fetchmailrc If it doesn't include "fetchmail_home_t", then do: restor

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 3:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 07/10/2019 02:37 PM, Alessio wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 9:04 PM sixpack13 > wrote:     wasn't su disallowed during the last fedora upgrades ? No. As far as I know only root is locked by default (at least on Fedora Workstatio

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/10/2019 02:37 PM, Alessio wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 9:04 PM sixpack13 > wrote: wasn't su disallowed during the last fedora upgrades ? No. As far as I know only root is locked by default (at least on Fedora Workstation). Aka you can't su to root. But yo

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 10Jul2019 21:35, Tim wrote: For the last umpteen years, I did this in /etc/rc.local: su tim -c "/usr/bin/fetchmail -d 900" And likewise, for several other users, but with different time periods to minimise overlaps. But that won't work, anymore. The log returns: rc.local: fetchmail: ope

Re: Update to F30 problem

2019-07-10 Thread Eyal Lebedinsky
On 11/07/2019 04.56, Frank Elsner wrote: Hi, on my fully updated F29 system the call dnf system-upgrade --skip-broken download --refresh --releasever=30 gives the error: Problem: package python2-rpkg-1.58-5.fc29.noarch requires python2-cccolutils, but none of the providers can be installed

Re: gnome frozen

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 2:28 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: On 6/16/19 2:24 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: I though that it may be due to a mounted filesystem. But it is not the case. You don't have any mounts that might become stale after an extended period of time? I noted that when I make a sshfs to a machine thr

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread sixpack13
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Re: gnome frozen

2019-07-10 Thread alan
> On 7/10/19 2:07 PM, a...@clueserver.org wrote: perl -pe 's/^\s+//g' *.py >>> Am I supposed to run this command? >> >> That is a sig line joke. It removes leading white space from Python >> programs. Don't run that. > > That is a very dangerous joke with no indication that it is your sig.

Re: gnome frozen

2019-07-10 Thread Patrick Dupre
> > On 6/16/19 2:24 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > Since I upgraded to fc30, if I do not use the PC for a while > > the screen turns to lock (no screensaver is used). > > Is this time is long, I may not be able to log in. > > The screen remains frozen after I provide the password. > > Have you tried

Re: gnome frozen

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 2:07 PM, a...@clueserver.org wrote: perl -pe 's/^\s+//g' *.py Am I supposed to run this command? That is a sig line joke. It removes leading white space from Python programs. Don't run that. That is a very dangerous joke with no indication that it is your sig. Yes, I realize tha

Re: gnome frozen

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 1:50 PM, a...@clueserver.org wrote: I have seen this happen before. If you have nvidia-settings installed, but do not have the commercial nvidia driver running, nvidia-settings makes a whole bunch of duplicate connections to the xserver. Once it is full, you cannot open new windows. (T

Re: gnome frozen

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 6/16/19 2:24 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Since I upgraded to fc30, if I do not use the PC for a while the screen turns to lock (no screensaver is used). Is this time is long, I may not be able to log in. The screen remains frozen after I provide the password. Have you tried disabling the screen

Re: gnome frozen

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 1:33 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: On 6/17/19 1:03 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: From: "Samuel Sieb" Where are you entering this? From a console or ssh? Yes That wasn't intended to be a yes or no question. I assume from the answer below that it's a terminal console. Try using "kill -HU

Re: gnome frozen

2019-07-10 Thread alan
>> I have seen this happen before. If you have nvidia-settings installed, >> but >> do not have the commercial nvidia driver running, nvidia-settings makes >> a >> whole bunch of duplicate connections to the xserver. Once it is full, >> you >> cannot open new windows. (Things get very strange.) >

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 12:16 PM, JD wrote: On 7/10/19 12:16 PM, sixpack13 wrote: wasn't su disallowed during the last fedora upgrades ? Well, this is a show stopper for me and for many other people. I do not think I will be upgrading the other machines to F30. More likely to a previous release that DOES a

Re: gnome frozen

2019-07-10 Thread Patrick Dupre
> > >> > >> On 6/17/19 1:03 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > >> >> From: "Samuel Sieb" > >> >> Where are you entering this? From a console or ssh? > >> > Yes > >> > >> That wasn't intended to be a yes or no question. I assume from the > >> answer below that it's a terminal console. > >> > >> >> Try u

Re: gnome frozen

2019-07-10 Thread alan
>> >> On 6/17/19 1:03 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: >> >> From: "Samuel Sieb" >> >> Where are you entering this? From a console or ssh? >> > Yes >> >> That wasn't intended to be a yes or no question. I assume from the >> answer below that it's a terminal console. >> >> >> Try using "kill -HUP" on t

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Alessio
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 9:04 PM sixpack13 wrote: > wasn't su disallowed during the last fedora upgrades ? > No. As far as I know only root is locked by default (at least on Fedora Workstation). Aka you can't su to root. But you are able to use Switch to any other (not locked) User, as usual. Gree

Re: gnome frozen

2019-07-10 Thread Patrick Dupre
> > On 6/17/19 1:03 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > >> From: "Samuel Sieb" > >> Where are you entering this? From a console or ssh? > > Yes > > That wasn't intended to be a yes or no question. I assume from the > answer below that it's a terminal console. > > >> Try using "kill -HUP" on the gnome-she

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Terry Polzin
Strange I think I upgraded a machine using sudo prefixing the commands. But I do run with selinux disabled. On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 4:12 PM JD wrote: > > > On 7/10/19 12:16 PM, sixpack13 wrote: > > wasn't su disallowed during the last fedora upgrades ? > Well, this is a show stopper for me and f

Re: Failed to upgrade to F-30

2019-07-10 Thread JD
On 7/9/19 5:38 PM, sixpack13 wrote: ... file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-nonfree-fedora-30 ... If they are downloaded, where are they located?? see above ! P.S. rpmfusion is ONLINE again ! try sudo dnf upgrade rpmfusion-\* Justtried to download some things that are on rpmfus

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread JD
On 7/10/19 12:16 PM, sixpack13 wrote: wasn't su disallowed during the last fedora upgrades ? Well, this is a show stopper for me and for many other people. I do not think I will be upgrading the other machines to F30. More likely to a previous release that DOES allow secure su and secure sudo

Re: F30 terminal problems

2019-07-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
Hi, Tony Camuso wrote: > Running F30 with Cinnamon desktop. > > Up-arrow a few times, or Ctl-r a couple times, and the cursor and > text get splattered on different terminal lines. All this worked > fine with F29. > > Previous commands cannot be edited, because the cursor is not > aligned with a

Update to F30 problem

2019-07-10 Thread Frank Elsner
Hi, on my fully updated F29 system the call dnf system-upgrade --skip-broken download --refresh --releasever=30 gives the error: Problem: package python2-rpkg-1.58-5.fc29.noarch requires python2-cccolutils, but none of the providers can be installed - python2-cccolutils-1.5-9.fc29.i686 does

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread sixpack13
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Re: Failed to upgrade to F-30

2019-07-10 Thread JD
On 7/10/19 12:03 PM, rwar...@gmx.de wrote: On 10.07.19 19:23, JD wrote: On 7/9/19 5:38 PM, sixpack13 wrote: ... file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-nonfree-fedora-30 ... If they are downloaded, where are they located?? see above ! P.S. rpmfusion is ONLINE again ! try sudo dnf

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/10/19 5:05 AM, Tim via users wrote: rc.local: fetchmail: open: /home/tim/.fetchmailrc: Permission denied My /home/tim permissions always were, and always will be: drwx--. 24 timtim 4096 Jul 10 21:23 tim Check the journal for selinux messages. ___

F30 terminal problems

2019-07-10 Thread Tony Camuso
Running F30 with Cinnamon desktop. Up-arrow a few times, or Ctl-r a couple times, and the cursor and text get splattered on different terminal lines. All this worked fine with F29. Previous commands cannot be edited, because the cursor is not aligned with any text. Getting the same results with

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread kevin martin
Chris has a good point. You used the ""'s when using the su tim but they are not needed when you are using the crontab as a user. --- Regards, Kevin Martin On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:59 AM Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Tim via users said: > > Okay, in unfamiliar territory here, so

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Tom Horsley
I don't know if it is the same problem, but a change to systemd made it impossible to put long running scripts in rc.local, which made me change my /etc/rc.c/rc.local file to look like: /usr/bin/at -M now <<'HERE' > /dev/null 2>&1 /etc/rc.d/the-real-rc.local HERE Then put everything I used to hav

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tim via users said: > Okay, in unfamiliar territory here, so logged in as my user, I tried > crontab -e and put > > @reboot "/usr/bin/fetchmail -d 900" > > into it, then rebooted to see what would happen. It didn't do what I > expected, and I got this error message back: > >

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:44 AM Tim via users wrote: > > My original re.local file had a string of commands like: > > su tim -c "/usr/bin/fetchmail -d 900" > su adam -c "/usr/bin/fetchmail -d 1200" > su eve -c "/usr/bin/fetchmail -d 1500" > > Each with a different delay, so that traffic was stagg

Canon CanoScan LIDE 300 Problem of Detection

2019-07-10 Thread das
Dear Friends After I connected the new scanner to the USB port and ran 'xsane', it showed 'no devices available'. But if I run 'lsusb' it is getting this canon device: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 04a9:12fe Canon, Inc I downloaded the driver from this link: http://pdisp01.c-wss.com/gdl/WWUFORedirectTa

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Tim via users
Hi Ben, > You might try created a systemd service for it instead. I think more about this tomorrow, when my brain has rebooted, but I think if I did it that way, all the different users would be using the same polling period coded into the common service file. My original re.local file had a str

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Tim via users
Tim wrote: >> For the last umpteen years, I did this in /etc/rc.local: >> >> su tim -c "/usr/bin/fetchmail -d 900" >> >> But that won't work, anymore... Ed Greshko: > Along with a systemd option there is cron and the crontab > specification @reboot. Okay, in unfamiliar territory here, so logged

Re: F30 first impression problems (notes and screen timeout config)

2019-07-10 Thread Fulko Hew
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 2:15 AM Ed Greshko wrote: > On 7/10/19 12:39 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Will check to see if I can find a solution but it may take be a while. > > OK, the problem is "power devil" is crashing. > > You can fix the issue by going to the settings for the VM and for Video > sel

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 7/10/19 8:05 PM, Tim via users wrote: > Hi, > > For the last umpteen years, I did this in /etc/rc.local: > > su tim -c "/usr/bin/fetchmail -d 900" > > And likewise, for several other users, but with different time periods > to minimise overlaps. > > But that won't work, anymore. The log retur

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Ben Cotton
Tim, You might try created a systemd service for it instead. E.g. # [Unit] Description=Get email [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target [Service] Type=simple User=%i ExecStart=/usr/bin/fetchmail -d 900 # Save the above to `/usr/lib/systemd/system/fetchmail@.service`. You can then use `sy

What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Tim via users
Hi, For the last umpteen years, I did this in /etc/rc.local: su tim -c "/usr/bin/fetchmail -d 900" And likewise, for several other users, but with different time periods to minimise overlaps. But that won't work, anymore. The log returns: rc.local: fetchmail: open: /home/tim/.fetchmailrc: