Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Todd Zullinger
Hi Ranjan, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 18:11:23 -0500 Ranjan Maitra > wrote: > >> Thanks, everybody, I am almost there. I am wondering how >> do I get to list the files without the first two depths? >> So, here is a part of my code: >> >> MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir >> MHDIR=$HOME/mail

Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2020-10-20 at 14:57 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I simply want to install Fedora 33 beta on an existing drive in this > computer. I have always started the installation process with Media > Writer. Presently it has a new undesirable quirk and insists on > installing to a WD Mybook and not

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2020-10-20 at 19:26 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > If anyone is that confident that none of the system calls or > code in find will ever surprise them, they're free to skip > the sort. :) > > I always think of this quote when I'm writing some code and > being a bit defensive in its constru

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 18:11:23 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Thanks, everybody, I am almost there. I am wondering how do I get to list the > files without the first two depths? So, here is a part of my code: > > MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir > MHDIR=$HOME/mail > FOLDERSPre=$(find $MHDIR -type d -mindepth

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Todd Zullinger
Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 10/20/20 2:40 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> It'd pretty unlikely for that to be the case, but you'd be >> relying on the find command, the underlying readdir() system >> calls, etc. which just don't guarantee an order. > > It's more than unlikely, it's literally impossible.

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Thanks, everybody, I am almost there. I am wondering how do I get to list the files without the first two depths? So, here is a part of my code: MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir MHDIR=$HOME/mail FOLDERSPre=$(find $MHDIR -type d -mindepth 1) So, then I get a list of directories: /home/username/mail/ H

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/20 2:40 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/20/20 10:52 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: Technically, it's a reasonable bet that a sub-directory will be created after the parent directory. But reasonable bets still involve more risk than it's worth when operating on your files

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 20Oct2020 10:58, Samuel Sieb wrote: >On 10/20/20 10:52 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: >>While tac is handy (and amusingly named), I don't think it's >>what you want. The reason is that the find output order >>isn't deterministic. It's in the directory entry order, >>which depends on when the direc

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Todd Zullinger
Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 10/20/20 10:52 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> Technically, it's a reasonable bet that a sub-directory >> will be created after the parent directory. But >> reasonable bets still involve more risk than it's worth >> when operating on your files. :) > > I can't imagine how it

Re: lp card not found

2020-10-20 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-10-20 03:32, George N. White III wrote: Does your BIOS have parallel port configuration? No ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: ht

Re: firefox

2020-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/20 2:57 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: For now a short week, firefox eat all the memory space (swapping) after ~ 2 hours (quickly diverging process when it starts). I have no control (ie, I do not know which site generates this behavior). I "just" have to stop it, and to restart it to have

Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-10-20 15:38, George N. White III wrote: Mediawriter is just used to create bootable installation media, normally a "live" USB key that boots to a GUI.   The alternative is to create a kickstart file that specifies a text mode install, but "The text user interface is limited, for e

Re: testing update

2020-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/20 12:53 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 12:37:04 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/20/20 11:12 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: I did: dnf config-manager --set-disabled updates-testing But then , how to I uninstall the packages depending on updates-testing Why do you need to

Re: testing update

2020-10-20 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 12:37:04 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 10/20/20 11:12 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > I did: > > dnf config-manager --set-disabled updates-testing > > > > But then , how to I uninstall the packages depending on updates-testing > > Why do you need to? Eventually those packages

Re: weird update

2020-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/20 11:22 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: If I run dnf history list last I have: 377 | update | 2020-10-20 19:41 | Upgrade | 53 ># This 53># seems weird. That appears to mean there was an error and the rpmdb didn't match what dnf expected.

Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 13:12, Bob Goodwin wrote: > There must be some other way to install fedora than using "mediawriter?" > Mediawriter is just used to create bootable installation media, normally a "live" USB key that boots to a GUI. The alternative is to create a kickstart file that specif

Re: testing update

2020-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/20 11:12 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: I did: dnf config-manager --set-disabled updates-testing But then , how to I uninstall the packages depending on updates-testing Why do you need to? Eventually those packages will end up in the regular updates repo and you would get them anyway.

F32: Failed to update (Andrew Wood) Re: users Digest, Vol 200, Issue 71

2020-10-20 Thread Andrew Wood
Thanks to user 'ITwrx' for the reply but it didn't answer my question which was specially about the update dialogue. May I ask someone else to reply who might have some suggestions? Here's the question below. Thanks, Andrew Hello, I have the following error - below - and I wonder how to fi

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 12:10:13PM -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 13:28:37 +1030 Tim via users > wrote: > > Thanks, very much! Btw, how do I list a directory recursively with the more > nested directories listed first inside a directory? I feel that I may want to > do this b

Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-10-20 13:21, Samuel Sieb wrote: Your question is very unclear.  Are you looking for a different way to install that's not a boot disk or are you looking for a different way to create the boot disk? . I simply want to install Fedora 33 beta on an existing drive in this computer. I hav

weird update

2020-10-20 Thread Patrick Dupre
If I run dnf history list last I have: 377 | update | 2020-10-20 19:41 | Upgrade| 53 ># This 53># seems weird. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email

Re: testing update

2020-10-20 Thread Patrick Dupre
I did: dnf config-manager --set-disabled updates-testing But then , how to I uninstall the packages depending on updates-testing ? === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire int

Re: testing update

2020-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/20 11:05 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: dnf config-manager --disablerepo=updates-testing Command line error: one of the following arguments is required: --save --add-repo --dump --dump-variables --set-enabled --enable --set-disabled --disable Sorry, that was the wrong command. dnf config-

Re: HP ENVY X360 monitor doesn't wake after sleeping

2020-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/20 10:22 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: I recently purchased the Ryzen 5 4500U version of the HP ENVY X360 laptop. For the most part I love it. It's fast, slim, and overall runs Fedora great but... The power button is located on the side and I frequently press it by accident. This would be

Re: testing update

2020-10-20 Thread Patrick Dupre
dnf config-manager --disablerepo=updates-testing Command line error: one of the following arguments is required: --save --add-repo --dump --dump-variables --set-enabled --enable --set-disabled --disable === Patrick DUPRÉ

Re: testing update

2020-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/20 10:57 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: How do I avoid testing update? If you've somehow enabled the updates-testing repo, then run: sudo dnf config-manager --disablerepo=updates-testing Do I need to dnf remove rpmfusion-free-release-32-1.noarch rpmfusion doesn't even have a testing repo

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/20 10:52 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: While tac is handy (and amusingly named), I don't think it's what you want. The reason is that the find output order isn't deterministic. It's in the directory entry order, which depends on when the directories were created. Technically, it's a reaso

testing update

2020-10-20 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, How do I avoid testing update? Do I need to dnf remove rpmfusion-free-release-32-1.noarch ? Thanks === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire interdisciplinaire Carnot de

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/20 10:33 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 10:25:11 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: Pipe the output of that to "tac". Wow! The reverse of cat, who would have guessed? Thanks! Ha, that's great! I was wondering where the name came from and didn't notice that. _

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ranjan Maitra wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 10:25:11 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: >> Pipe the output of that to "tac". > > Wow! The reverse of cat, who would have guessed? Thanks! While tac is handy (and amusingly named), I don't think it's what you want. The reason is that the find output order isn

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 10:25:11 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 10/20/20 10:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Thanks, very much! Btw, how do I list a directory recursively with the more > > nested directories listed first inside a directory? I feel that I may want > > to do this before I use my script

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/20 10:10 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Thanks, very much! Btw, how do I list a directory recursively with the more nested directories listed first inside a directory? I feel that I may want to do this before I use my script to convert MH to Maildir. I tried: find . -type d ./inbox ./Sen

HP ENVY X360 monitor doesn't wake after sleeping

2020-10-20 Thread Richard Shaw
I recently purchased the Ryzen 5 4500U version of the HP ENVY X360 laptop. For the most part I love it. It's fast, slim, and overall runs Fedora great but... The power button is located on the side and I frequently press it by accident. This would be just annoying but when I press the power button

Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/20/20 9:12 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: There must be some other way to install fedora than using "mediawriter?" mediawriter is not an installer, it's for setting up the boot media. There are other methods of doing that. Is that what you want? I want to install a copy of fedora-33 on anothe

Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-10-20 12:56, Lance Lassetter wrote: Just make sure you get the bootloader straight if you're dual booting with Windows. . Perhaps that would be better but I don't have Windows. I would prefer installing from a terminal, a command line is usually better for me. I have a copy of Fedora

Re: OT: Maildir vs. mh folders?

2020-10-20 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 13:28:37 +1030 Tim via users wrote: > On Mon, 2020-10-19 at 11:34 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > > In *my* case, I can nest folders, but a folder can contain only mail > > or another folder, not both together. > > > > But I do have sub-folders, and I use maildir. > > A correct

Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread Lance Lassetter
Just make sure you get the bootloader straight if you're dual booting with Windows. On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 11:12 AM Bob Goodwin wrote: > There must be some other way to install fedora than using "mediawriter?" > > I want to install a copy of fedora-33 on another drive and I would like > to try a

Re: Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread Lance Lassetter
I used rufus in Windows. On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 11:12 AM Bob Goodwin wrote: > There must be some other way to install fedora than using "mediawriter?" > > I want to install a copy of fedora-33 on another drive and I would like > to try a different method if someone can suggest one. Google has not

Install Fedora -

2020-10-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
There must be some other way to install fedora than using "mediawriter?" I want to install a copy of fedora-33 on another drive and I would like to try a different method if someone can suggest one. Google has not helped ... -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fast

Re: F32: Failed to update

2020-10-20 Thread ITwrx
On 10/20/20 8:01 AM, Andrew Wood wrote: > Hello, > > I have the following error - below - and I wonder how to fix it? I > have noticed that some dialogues on F32 - used by the document viewer > and the editor for example - are very unresponsive and can take > perhaps more than 30 seconds or longer

F32: Failed to update

2020-10-20 Thread Andrew Wood
Hello, I have the following error - below - and I wonder how to fix it? I have noticed that some dialogues on F32 - used by the document viewer and the editor for example - are very unresponsive and can take perhaps more than 30 seconds or longer to allow lists to be scrolled and buttons to b

Re: firefox

2020-10-20 Thread Roger Heflin
I have seen it for about the last month or 2. It seems to have a limit as no matter how long it is up it won't eat up all of the ram on my 32gb machine, but it happily overruns at 10GB machien quickly I did a bit of looking and this might help (crudely pasted) (content limit defaults to 8, and lo

Re: firefox

2020-10-20 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2020-10-20 at 11:57 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: > For now a short week, firefox eat all the memory space (swapping) > after ~ 2 hours (quickly diverging process when it starts). I have > no control (ie, I do not know which site generates this behavior). I > "just" have to stop it, and to r

Re: [solved] Need help with dnf excludes

2020-10-20 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 08:43, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Oct 19, 2020, at 17:58, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > >  > On Oct 19, 2020, at 16:15, ToddAndMargo via users < > users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > Combining excludepkgs, using a space as the delimiter, now > > > According to the

Re: [solved] Need help with dnf excludes

2020-10-20 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Oct 19, 2020, at 17:58, Jonathan Billings wrote: > >  >> On Oct 19, 2020, at 16:15, ToddAndMargo via users >> wrote: >> >> Combining excludepkgs, using a space as the delimiter, now > > According to the documentation: > > > exclude > list > Exclude packages of this repository, specifie

Re: lp card not found

2020-10-20 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 04:09, ToddAndMargo via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 2020-10-17 23:23, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 10/17/20 5:55 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> On 2020-10-17 16:22, Roger Heflin wrote: > >>> you can find a "new_id" in /sys under a parport_pc direc

firefox

2020-10-20 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, For now a short week, firefox eat all the memory space (swapping) after ~ 2 hours (quickly diverging process when it starts). I have no control (ie, I do not know which site generates this behavior). I "just" have to stop it, and to restart it to have it occupying a "normal" memory space.