Re: Kernel update again

2021-07-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 12:28 AM jarmo wrote: > > Got new kernel and that stil won't work with > my HP laptop. > It boots so far, that I get login window, I give passwd > after that, black window, nothing else happens, except ctl+alt+del > works. > What I have last working kernel in that laptop, i

Re: Maybe offline updates aren't a bad idea

2021-07-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 2:00 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > > If it was just a plasma crash, then ssh and/or the alt keys would have > worked to switch terminals. > > Details said neither worked. The kernel and/or a significant part of > userspace was deadlocked and/or crashed. I wonder if logs contai

Re: Maybe offline updates aren't a bad idea

2021-07-30 Thread Roger Heflin
If it was just a plasma crash, then ssh and/or the alt keys would have worked to switch terminals. Details said neither worked. The kernel and/or a significant part of userspace was deadlocked and/or crashed. On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 1:11 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 31/07/2021 01:43, Roger Hefli

Re: Maybe offline updates aren't a bad idea

2021-07-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 31/07/2021 01:43, Roger Heflin wrote: Total lockup would have to be a complete kernel crash during the update. As others have said, offline would probably not reduce the risk of this sort of crash. I think it is unwise to assume it was a "kernel" crash. As I mentioned, the screen showed a

Re: Maybe offline updates aren't a bad idea

2021-07-30 Thread Roger Heflin
Total lockup would have to be a complete kernel crash during the update. As others have said, offline would probably not reduce the risk of this sort of crash. The updates typically don't add/remove modules and/or otherwise change the live running kernel components. On the enterprise side there

Re: New fc33/FF 90.0/amazon.com issue

2021-07-30 Thread Dave Ulrick
On 7/30/21 10:51 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: [Try not to top-post, it messes up threading] My bad...I've reconfigured my email client to not top-post. Hope this looks better! I think what Tom meant was that you could create a new Linux user account to test this from a completely clean stat

Re: New fc33/FF 90.0/amazon.com issue

2021-07-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 09:17 -0500, Dave Ulrick wrote: > Just now I launched FC33's FF 90.0.2 and created a new profile with > about:profiles. Restarting Firefox gave me a fresh configuration: > default introductory page, Fedora-oriented bookmarks, etc.. After > logging in to Firefox Sync to pull

Re: New fc33/FF 90.0/amazon.com issue

2021-07-30 Thread Dave Ulrick
Just now I launched FC33's FF 90.0.2 and created a new profile with about:profiles. Restarting Firefox gave me a fresh configuration: default introductory page, Fedora-oriented bookmarks, etc.. After logging in to Firefox Sync to pull in my bookmarks, add-ons, etc., I logged into Amazon and got

Re: New fc33/FF 90.0/amazon.com issue

2021-07-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 08:38:24 -0500 Dave Ulrick wrote: > perhaps more likely, something got > corrupted in the Firefox profile I've been using with the FC33 build. You could create a brand new user, log in as new user and try the same URL. ___ users mai

Re: New fc33/FF 90.0/amazon.com issue

2021-07-30 Thread Dave Ulrick
On 7/24/21 10:42 PM, doug.lindqu...@atlanticbb.net wrote: I ran into the same problem several months ago.  It was a bug in my vpn.  They updated it two days later and the bug went away allowing me to access amazon again. FF 90.0.2 just reached FC33 stable so I upgraded to it. New status:

Re: Maybe offline updates aren't a bad idea

2021-07-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 30/07/2021 19:04, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 11:34 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 7/30/21 7:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > Total freeze.  Unable to switch to an alternate console.  ssh into > > the system was non-responsive. > > No ssh? Looks

Re: Maybe offline updates aren't a bad idea

2021-07-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 11:34 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 7/30/21 7:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > Total freeze.  Unable to switch to an alternate console.  ssh into > > the system was non-responsive. > > No ssh? Looks like a total system lockup that could have ha

Re: Maybe offline updates aren't a bad idea

2021-07-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2021-07-30 at 11:34 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: > On 7/30/21 7:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > Total freeze.  Unable to switch to an alternate console.  ssh into > > the system was non-responsive. > > No ssh? Looks like a total system lockup that could have happened in > offline mode as w

Re: Maybe offline updates aren't a bad idea

2021-07-30 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 7/30/21 7:57 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Total freeze.  Unable to switch to an alternate console.  ssh into the system was non-responsive. No ssh? Looks like a total system lockup that could have happened in offline mode as well. -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it ___