Re: Is there a way to transfer Xfce's Panel 1 launchers into MATE?

2021-09-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/09/2021 13:27, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 9/27/21 9:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/09/2021 11:56, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I have yet to figure out where mate stores its stuff, but I can create a folder in mate's applications called Micky Mouse and let "find" find it for me.  T

Re: Is there a way to transfer Xfce's Panel 1 launchers into MATE?

2021-09-27 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 9/27/21 9:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 28/09/2021 11:56, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I have yet to figure out where mate stores its stuff, but I can create a folder in mate's applications called Micky Mouse and let "find" find it for me.  They are probably in .conf somewhere. Sorry for th

Re: Is there a way to transfer Xfce's Panel 1 launchers into MATE?

2021-09-27 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2021-09-27 at 20:56 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I have yet to figure out where mate stores its stuff, but I can > create a folder in mate's applications called Micky Mouse and let > "find" find it for me. They are probably in .conf somewhere. You might want to try experimenting

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2021-09-27 at 18:22 -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > It sounds like a tablet/phone interface, but those don’t have a > traditional “desktop”. > > There are some serious flaws with that setup. What happens if a > user’s home is full/out of space? What if it is a network drive? > What if

Re: Is there a way to transfer Xfce's Panel 1 launchers into MATE?

2021-09-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/09/2021 11:56, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I have yet to figure out where mate stores its stuff, but I can create a folder in mate's applications called Micky Mouse and let "find" find it for me.  They are probably in .conf somewhere. Sorry for the big snip.  But therein lies a problem

Re: Is there a way to transfer Xfce's Panel 1 launchers into MATE?

2021-09-27 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi Ed, Awesome. Ed is on the case! In Xfce, Panel 1 usually resided at the bottom of your screen. It is similar to CDE and Apple's weird bar at the bottom, except it is 10 time more useful as it allows you to populate a pop up with your own favorite stuff in it. https://ibb.co/T133FVz These

Re: Is there a way to transfer Xfce's Panel 1 launchers into MATE?

2021-09-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/09/2021 10:09, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 9/26/21 4:10 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Fedora 34 Xfce 4.14 Is there a way to transfer Xfce's Panel 1 launchers into MATE? I take it I am going to have to do this the hard way.  Maybe I will program something in Raku Is this stil

Re: Is there a way to transfer Xfce's Panel 1 launchers into MATE?

2021-09-27 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 9/26/21 4:10 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Fedora 34 Xfce 4.14 Is there a way to transfer Xfce's Panel 1 launchers into MATE? I take it I am going to have to do this the hard way. Maybe I will program something in Raku ___ users mailing list

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Sep 27, 2021, at 14:10, Joe Zeff wrote: > > I am the only user of my computers. I expect programs I install to appear on > my desktop. On multi-user desktops, I'd expect them to appear on the > desktops of whoever installed them. Other users can right-click on their > desktop, select Cre

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread Joe Zeff
On 9/27/21 1:22 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Developers don't develop for "you".  The develop for all end users, plural. What you expect, and what is reality are vastly different. Of course. However, there are enough boxen being used the way mine are that developers should take this use case into a

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/09/2021 02:09, Joe Zeff wrote: On 9/27/21 1:23 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: So, you want the installation of programs to populate all user's ~/Desktop?  And you want them to all appear on user's desktops? I am the only user of my computers.  I expect programs I install to appear on my desktop

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread Joe Zeff
On 9/27/21 7:36 AM, Tim via users wrote: Are you using a desktop environment that pretends it's like a touchscreen tablet? Where instead of menus, all applications get an icon thrown onto a screen(s) that you have to shuffle through to find. I have already stated that I use xfce4. I use it be

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread Joe Zeff
On 9/27/21 1:23 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: So, you want the installation of programs to populate all user's ~/Desktop?  And you want them to all appear on user's desktops? I am the only user of my computers. I expect programs I install to appear on my desktop. On multi-user desktops, I'd expect

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 9/26/21 5:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Xfce 4.14 When I right click on the desktop and select "Create Launcher", Xfce lists various launchers already installed in the system.  Where are these launchers located?  .config?  .local? Many thanks, -T A better wording would have

Re: USB ports frequently disconnecting

2021-09-27 Thread Roger Heflin
it could be the usb ports are not seating quite as well as they did originally. After numerous usage, some of the ports I have are getting loose and somewhat flakey with minimal movement. On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 11:13 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-09-27 at 09:55 -0500, Roger H

Re: USB ports frequently disconnecting

2021-09-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 17:12:48 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Might be time to look at a new mobo in any case. I know I have one old computer where all the USB3 ports are mostly dead (work a little, then screw up a lot). The USB2 ports still work fine, so different bits of hardware can start t

Re: USB ports frequently disconnecting

2021-09-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-09-27 at 09:55 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > If it is a laptop, I have had several laptops (one running linux and > one running windows) where some of the USB hardware died after 3-5 > years.  I suspect that the cooling design for the usb devices was not > great and they cooked.  I did

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/09/2021 21:36, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2021-09-27 at 01:15 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: If I install a program on my machine that is normally started by clicking on a desktop icon, I expect that to be done as part of the installation; I don't expect to have to play games to get it there. Ch

Re: USB ports frequently disconnecting

2021-09-27 Thread Roger Heflin
If it is a laptop, I have had several laptops (one running linux and one running windows) where some of the USB hardware died after 3-5 years. I suspect that the cooling design for the usb devices was not great and they cooked. I did start using an extra laptop cooling fan and that seemed to help

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2021-09-27 at 01:15 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > If I install a program on my machine that is normally started by > clicking on a desktop icon, I expect that to be done as part of the > installation; I don't expect to have to play games to get it there. > Checking, every one of the icons on

USB ports frequently disconnecting

2021-09-27 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I have a whole slew of these messages in the journal: 00:00:11 Bree upowerd[2067]: treating change event as add on /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.0/usb3/3-0:1.0 The specific usb hub changes from time to time, i.e. it's not always the same device, (and doesn't seem to be related to my externa

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/09/2021 14:54, Joe Zeff wrote: On 9/26/21 10:02 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: So, what does that environment variable contain on your system? /home/joe/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/usr/share And those are the paths that are used

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/09/2021 15:15, Joe Zeff wrote: On 9/27/21 1:07 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Because developers of DE's shouldn't be putting things in your user area?  That is your area. You want them making decisions for you? If I install a program on my machine that is normally started by clicking on a desk

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread Joe Zeff
On 9/27/21 1:07 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Because developers of DE's shouldn't be putting things in your user area?  That is your area. You want them making decisions for you? If I install a program on my machine that is normally started by clicking on a desktop icon, I expect that to be done as

Re: Where are the launchers?

2021-09-27 Thread Ed Greshko
On 27/09/2021 14:52, Joe Zeff wrote: On 9/26/21 9:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: What DE are you using? Xfce4 AFAIK, no DE places files in a user's Desktop directory.  That would simply be a wrong thing to do. Why?  If you want to make sure that it appears on the user's desktop, that's the eas