Re: F35: Default audio output device

2021-11-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/16/21 15:27, Sam Varshavchik wrote: So, anyone knows how to set the permanent default output device? A search for "pipewire set persistent default" brings up a few discussions suggesting that pipewire *should* save the default across sessions, but that was broken in 0.3.33, and then fi

Re: Packagekit background updates

2021-11-17 Thread Reon Beon via users
I wish it would automatically do it on reboot/shutdown. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread linux guy
Bug filed with Fedora: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2024430 Developers notified: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf-plugins-extras/issues/200 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 18/11/2021 12:29, linux guy wrote: Sorry, the use of #rm -rf like that is unacceptable.  The developer knows what directories s/he created.  No need to do an rm -rf and kill everything on the directory tree from there down.  That is overkill and dangerous. Well, file a bugzilla.  This is

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/17/21 9:29 PM, linux guy wrote: Sorry, the use of #rm -rf like that is unacceptable.  The developer knows what directories s/he created.  No need to do an rm -rf and kill everything on the directory tree from there down.  That is overkill and dangerous. So file a bug. __

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/17/21 9:20 PM, linux guy wrote: Sorry, I've been using Redhat/Fedora for 20 years.  Never once lost data like this.  This is bad programming, period ! On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 9:15 PM Joe Zeff > wrote: On 11/17/21 6:45 PM, linux guy wrote: > Any chance I can

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/17/21 20:29, linux guy wrote: Sorry, the use of #rm -rf like that is unacceptable.  The developer knows what directories s/he created.  No need to do an rm -rf and kill That is not true. Any particular run of dnf does not know when a previous run was done or what files or directories i

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread linux guy
Sorry, the use of #rm -rf like that is unacceptable. The developer knows what directories s/he created. No need to do an rm -rf and kill everything on the directory tree from there down. That is overkill and dangerous. ___ users mailing list -- users@l

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/17/21 19:39, linux guy wrote: "And the "rm" man page also does not warn what would happen if one enters "rm -rf /home"." Sorry, not the same context.   Giving an app a directory to use does not allow the app to delete data it didn't create. If you give an application a cache directory

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread linux guy
At least WARN the user, either in the man page or on the command line or both that you are about to destroy data. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Co

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread linux guy
Sorry, I've been using Redhat/Fedora for 20 years. Never once lost data like this. This is bad programming, period ! On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 9:15 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/17/21 6:45 PM, linux guy wrote: > > Any chance I can recover the files ? > > I very seriously doubt it because in Linux,

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/17/21 6:45 PM, linux guy wrote: Any chance I can recover the files ? I very seriously doubt it because in Linux, gone is gone. I hope I'm wrong here, but this is why you should never upgrade your system without first backing up your /home and anything else you consider important.

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread linux guy
Just confirmed the dnf system-upgrade probably does a rm-rf on the "download" dir. >From dnf-plugins-extras/plugins/system_upgrade.py: === def clear_dir(path): if not os.path.isdir(path): return for entry in os.l

Re: ssh key question - does jimc@fedora need to be updated to follow new hostname ?

2021-11-17 Thread Adam Mercer
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 9:09 PM wrote: > so I generated my local .ssh/id_rsa before I chose a hostname. > Now that Ive updated hostname, the id ends with jimc@fedora, > which is somehow misleading. > but does it matter otherwise? The username@hostname is essentially just for bookkeeping and can

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 18/11/2021 11:39, linux guy wrote: "And the "rm" man page also does not warn what would happen if one enters "rm -rf /home"." Sorry, not the same context.   Giving an app a directory to use does not allow the app to delete data it didn't create. Quite apparently, it does in this case. S

ssh key question - does jimc@fedora need to be updated to follow new hostname ?

2021-11-17 Thread jim . cromie
so I generated my local .ssh/id_rsa before I chose a hostname. Now that Ive updated hostname, the id ends with jimc@fedora, which is somehow misleading. but does it matter otherwise? as a test, I have added the key w.o alteration to github, and it works, implying that the hostname is not part of t

Re: F35: Default audio output device

2021-11-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Ed Greshko writes: On 17/11/2021 19:58, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Ed Greshko writes: On 17/11/2021 07:27, Sam Varshavchik wrote: One of my servers was rebooted two times, so far, since the update to F35. There's no audio after each reboot. First time: after some scrambling around, I found th

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread linux guy
"And the "rm" man page also does not warn what would happen if one enters "rm -rf /home"." Sorry, not the same context. Giving an app a directory to use does not allow the app to delete data it didn't create. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedor

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 18/11/2021 11:00, linux guy wrote: "'I'm not surprised.  You just told dnf that /home was its working directory, so it can do whatever it wants with it.  It's going to want to clean it out so only the relevant files are there." Sorry, I did not give dnf the right to delete files it did not cr

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread linux guy
"'I'm not surprised. You just told dnf that /home was its working directory, so it can do whatever it wants with it. It's going to want to clean it out so only the relevant files are there." Sorry, I did not give dnf the right to delete files it did not create in that directory.Note that it

Re: Fedora 35 KDE: Battery critical: suspend requires authentication

2021-11-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/17/21 06:13, jtagcat jtagcat wrote: 1. Critical power level, notification that the computer will shut down in 60 seconds unless plugged in. Expected: 2. Pressing sleep button or closing lid will suspend device without authentication (normal non-critical power level operation) Actual: 2.

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/17/21 17:45, linux guy wrote: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir... ! So... went to do an upgrade to Fedora 35 and found that I was lacking room for the downloads.   I have /home set up on a separate drive, so I did the following: dnf system

Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread linux guy
Or maybe the home directory isn't getting mounted to /home ? On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 6:45 PM linux guy wrote: > dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home > dir... ! > > So... went to do an upgrade to Fedora 35 and found that I was lacking room > for the downloads

dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

2021-11-17 Thread linux guy
dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir... ! So... went to do an upgrade to Fedora 35 and found that I was lacking room for the downloads. I have /home set up on a separate drive, so I did the following: dnf system-upgrade download --downloaddir=/home --re

Re: F35: Default audio output device

2021-11-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 17/11/2021 19:58, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Ed Greshko writes: On 17/11/2021 07:27, Sam Varshavchik wrote: One of my servers was rebooted two times, so far, since the update to F35. There's no audio after each reboot. First time: after some scrambling around, I found that I simply have to sw

Packagekit background updates

2021-11-17 Thread Matti Pulkkinen
Hello, tl;dr is packagekit supposed to download updates in the background? On Fedora Workstation, I have long been in the habit of installing updates through Gnome Software every time before I shut down my computer. Recently, however, I decided to see how the automatic background updates work. A

Re: Fedora 35 KDE: Battery critical: suspend requires authentication

2021-11-17 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 14:13:19 - "jtagcat jtagcat" wrote: > 1. Critical power level, notification that the computer will shut > down in 60 seconds unless plugged in. > > Expected: 2. Pressing sleep button or closing lid will suspend device > without authentication (normal non-critical power le

Ejecting USB drive causing system reboot

2021-11-17 Thread Richard Shaw
I have a 125GB NVMe drive in a USB 3.0 enclosure that I was trying to repartition using the Gnome Disks app. It failed miserably only giving me errors, so I loaded up gparted. That worked fine other than the usual "I couldn't inform the kernel so you need to reboot to see the new partition" error

Re: Learning btrfs

2021-11-17 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 11/16/21 03:08, Michal Schorm wrote: There shouldn't be much difference from any other fstab entry for btrfs mount. Take a look at 'man fstab' [1]. I think it is well described there with examples. First field marks WHAT should be mounted Second field marks WHERE it should be mounted (what

Fedora 35 KDE: Battery critical: suspend requires authentication

2021-11-17 Thread jtagcat jtagcat
1. Critical power level, notification that the computer will shut down in 60 seconds unless plugged in. Expected: 2. Pressing sleep button or closing lid will suspend device without authentication (normal non-critical power level operation) Actual: 2. The computer will not go to sleep, a graphi

Re: [Test Week] Fedora Linux Kernel 5.15 2021-11-14 through 2021-11-21

2021-11-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2021-11-17 at 17:16 +0530, Sumantro Mukherjee wrote: > > Sorry to be That Guy again, but although I understand why this > > announcement was cross-posted here, shouldn't replies be directed > > to > > the Test List? That's what it's for after all. > > > > poc > > > Hey! > > I kinda wish

Re: F35: Default audio output device

2021-11-17 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Ed Greshko writes: On 17/11/2021 07:27, Sam Varshavchik wrote: One of my servers was rebooted two times, so far, since the update to F35. There's no audio after each reboot. First time: after some scrambling around, I found that I simply have to switch to "Built-In Analog Stereo" in XFCE's

Re: [Test Week] Fedora Linux Kernel 5.15 2021-11-14 through 2021-11-21

2021-11-17 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 4:12 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-11-15 at 15:01 +0530, Sumantro Mukherjee wrote: > > Hey All, > > > > I would like to invite all of you to participate in the Kernel 5.15 > > Test week is happening from 2021-11-14 to 2021-11-21. It's > > fairly simple, hea

Re: [Test Week] Fedora Linux Kernel 5.15 2021-11-14 through 2021-11-21

2021-11-17 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 5:55 AM murph nj wrote: > Funny, after I posted this, I found where the email acknowledgements for > the tests came in, and then, a flood of badge messages as well. So, > problem solved. If someone did something in the background, thanks! > You are welcome :) The badges

Re: [Test Week] Fedora Linux Kernel 5.15 2021-11-14 through 2021-11-21

2021-11-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2021-11-15 at 15:01 +0530, Sumantro Mukherjee wrote: > Hey All, > > I would like to invite all of you to participate in the Kernel 5.15 > Test week is happening from 2021-11-14 to 2021-11-21. It's > fairly simple, head over to the wiki [0] and read in detail about the > test week and simpl