Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread Joseph Loo
My understanding there is a plugin that provides an imap interface. Thus you can use thunderbird. I have not tried this. On 7/16/22 19:22, olivares33561 via users wrote: Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Messag

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread olivares33561 via users
Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Saturday, July 16th, 2022 at 2:15 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 7/16/22 12:06, olivares33561 via users wrote: > > > Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 23:27:21 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Is anyone else seeing this? Possibly not precisely the same, but I found that systemd "user demons" were continuing to run forever even when the user logged out, and on shutdown it would wait a long time on them before being willing

Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I reported this on the Fedora KDE list a while back. Briefly, the kded daemon should die when the user session terminates, but actually waits around for up to 90 seconds before timing out. This blocks the system from shutting down, or from logging in the same user while the process is still running

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2022-07-16 at 12:55 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > Recently, my laptop died and I had to buy a new one.  Now, I'd like > to > take a look at what hardware is inside.  I know that there used to be > a > program to show you all of the hardware, but it's been so long since > I > needed it that I

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 7/16/22 15:43, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 15:02:38 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: and the program I remember had a GUI. There is an lshw and an lshw-giu out there. Thanx; lshw-gui was what I was looking for. ___ users mailing list -- users@l

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread Terry Polzin
lsusb,lspci,dmesg commands On Sat, Jul 16, 2022, 14:55 Joe Zeff wrote: > Recently, my laptop died and I had to buy a new one. Now, I'd like to > take a look at what hardware is inside. I know that there used to be a > program to show you all of the hardware, but it's been so long since I > nee

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 15:02:38 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > and the program I remember had a GUI. There is an lshw and an lshw-giu out there. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 7/16/22 14:00, Joe Zeff wrote: On 7/16/22 13:55, James Szinger wrote: I find Gnome 3 unusable, so I use Mate instead of Workstation. When I read a description of what Gnome 3 would be, I started hunting around and ended up with Xfce, before Gnome 3 was released and never looked back. MA

Re: cpan build perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot

2022-07-16 Thread Patrick Dupre
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Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 7/16/22 13:26, Dave Stevens wrote: Joe, I'm afraid I replied too quickly. If the hard drive doesn't work I don't know what you can do except examine your backups - which I'm sure you have. If you are able to pull the drive and make it boot while attached to some other computer then dmidecode w

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 7/16/22 13:55, James Szinger wrote: I find Gnome 3 unusable, so I use Mate instead of Workstation. When I read a description of what Gnome 3 would be, I started hunting around and ended up with Xfce, before Gnome 3 was released and never looked back. __

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 7/15/22 11:41, Chris Murphy wrote: Hi, I have a request for list regulars. The Fedora Workstation working group is curious if there's any pattern or categorization how Fedora installations typically break. i.e. the installation is successful, the system has been updated multiple times succes

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-16 Thread James Szinger
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 14:41:09 -0400 Chris Murphy wrote: > Hi, > > I have a request for list regulars. > > The Fedora Workstation working group is curious if there's any pattern > or categorization how Fedora installations typically break. i.e. the > installation is successful, the system has bee

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread James Szinger
On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 12:55:25 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > Recently, my laptop died and I had to buy a new one. Now, I'd like > to take a look at what hardware is inside. I know that there used to > be a program to show you all of the hardware, but it's been so long > since I needed it that I can't r

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 7/16/22 12:06, olivares33561 via users wrote: Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. Hi Olivares, Is ProtonMail supporting Thunderbird yet? -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedorap

Re: cpan build perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot

2022-07-16 Thread James Szinger
On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 15:32:57 +0200 Patrick Dupre wrote: > However, I cannot see any distribution offering > perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot. > Nevertheless, this package is still active > https://metacpan.org/pod/PDL::Graphics::PLplot It has many failures on CPAN Testers:

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 7/16/22 12:06, olivares33561 via users wrote: And it will show hardware information for your PC. There was also a dmidecode? Or similar program http://www.nongnu.org/dmidecode/ I use dmidecode too. Is this you new computer or your old computer? If you old computer, you have to figure ou

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 12:25 AM Joe Zeff wrote: > Recently, my laptop died and I had to buy a new one. Now, I'd like to > take a look at what hardware is inside. I know that there used to be a > program to show you all of the hardware, but it's been so long since I > needed it that I can't rem

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread olivares33561 via users
Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Saturday, July 16th, 2022 at 1:55 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > Recently, my laptop died and I had to buy a new one. Now, I'd like to > take a look at what hardware i

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread Mike Wright
On 7/16/22 11:55, Joe Zeff wrote: Recently, my laptop died and I had to buy a new one.  Now, I'd like to take a look at what hardware is inside.  I know that there used to be a program to show you all of the hardware, but it's been so long since I needed it that I can't remember its name.  I'd

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 12:55:25 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > I'd appreciate it if somebody > could point me in the right direction Don't know if there is a tool to show everything, but lspci will give a lot of info about what is talking on the pci buses. Then there's /proc/cpuinfo and maybe other /proc

A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread Joe Zeff
Recently, my laptop died and I had to buy a new one. Now, I'd like to take a look at what hardware is inside. I know that there used to be a program to show you all of the hardware, but it's been so long since I needed it that I can't remember its name. I'd appreciate it if somebody could po

Re: fully updated F36 Dell XPS 13 no longer comes back from hibernate (post Thursday updates)

2022-07-16 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Spoken too soon. The latest updates no longer allow coming back from hibernate. I must note that I do have an external monitor attached to the laptop (which I did not when it worked two weeks ago when I was away) however, this has not been an issue in the past, but I wonder if that can explain a

Re: scilab

2022-07-16 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 10:28 AM Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > Also, what is going on with scilab. > It is not anymore in the distribution since fc32 > Nobody stepped up to maintain it, but it is available as a flatpak ___ users mailing list -- use

Re: cpan build perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot

2022-07-16 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 10:33 AM Patrick Dupre wrote: > Thanks for the advise. > > However, I cannot see any distribution offering perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot. > Have you asked on the PDL list? Distributions often use different names, so searching is not trivial. It helps to have some experience

Re: cpan build perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot

2022-07-16 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thanks for the advise.   However, I cannot see any distribution offering perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot.   Nevertheless, this package is still active https://metacpan.org/pod/PDL::Graphics::PLplot   If I cannot compile for the source, how can I make it compatible with my distribution? cpanm PDL

scilab

2022-07-16 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, Also, what is going on with scilab. It is not anymore in the distribution since fc32 === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire interdisciplinaire Carnot de Bourgogne 9

Re: cpan build perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot

2022-07-16 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 4:14 AM Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > On 2022-07-15 14:35, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > > I am trying to obtain perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot > > > > This package was retired a long time ago in Fedora because it failed to > > build. > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-PDL-Grap

Re: cpan build perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot

2022-07-16 Thread Patrick Dupre
> On 2022-07-15 14:35, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > I am trying to obtain perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot > > This package was retired a long time ago in Fedora because it failed to > build. > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot Maybe, but I need to make it works. I have a key applic