Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Tim via users
home user: >> When I ordered the desktop, I asked that the drives be fully >> S.M.A.R.T. monitorable. & home user: > Years, ago, I was told by someone on this list that results of > S.M.A.R.T. monitoring of that hard drive were only partially > meaningful or applicable. I suspect few shop staff

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread home user via users
On 9/19/2025 3:11 PM, Go Canes wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 12:41 PM home user via users wrote: When I ordered my desktop, I was told by 2 different salesmen that cases are no longer made with 5 1/4 inch slots. So I cannot do a blu-ray drive with a SATA interface. I had to order an externa

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/19/25 11:23 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2025-09-19 at 23:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: The really nice thing about using subvolumes is that you don't have to guess and hope that you get the sizes right for the / and /home partitions. I remember many times when I would create too many V

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2025-09-19 at 23:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > The really nice thing about using subvolumes is that you don't have to > guess and hope that you get the sizes right for the / and /home > partitions. I remember many times when I would create too many VMs or > something in the / partition

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/19/25 9:30 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2025-09-19 at 10:40 -0600, home user via users wrote: When I ordered my desktop, I was told by 2 different salesmen that cases are no longer made with 5 1/4 inch slots. So I cannot do a blu-ray drive with a SATA interface. I had to order an exte

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/19/25 5:32 PM, home user via users wrote: On 9/19/2025 3:11 PM, Go Canes wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 12:41 PM home user via users wrote: When I ordered my desktop, I was told by 2 different salesmen that cases are no longer made with 5 1/4 inch slots.  So I cannot do a blu-ray drive w

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/19/25 3:25 PM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: On 19 Sep 2025 at 17:27, Go Canes wrote: From: Go Canes Date sent: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 17:27:54 -0400 Subject:Re: "bare metal" installation To: Community support for Fedora

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/19/25 10:12 AM, home user via users wrote: I've seen a few references to "sub-volumes" in this thread. What are the advantages of using sub-volumes? What are the trade-offs? Are they required or optional? If you use the default btrfs configuration in the installer, then they're "required

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2025-09-19 at 10:40 -0600, home user via users wrote: > When I ordered my desktop, I was told by 2 different salesmen that cases > are no longer made with 5 1/4 inch slots. So I cannot do a blu-ray > drive with a SATA interface. I had to order an external drive, and > everything that I

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread home user via users
On 9/19/2025 2:31 PM, Go Canes wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 12:07 PM home user via users wrote: On 9/17/2025 1:27 PM, Go Canes wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 2:48 PM home user via users >> A drive is divided into sectors, which are divided into blocks. Am I right? > > Correct, altho

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread home user via users
(responding to both George and Go Canes) On 9/19/2025 1:30 PM, George N. White III wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 2:13 PM home user via users wrote: I've seen a few references to "sub-volumes" in this thread. What are the advantages of using sub-volumes? They can replace partitions

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 19 Sep 2025 at 17:27, Go Canes wrote: From: Go Canes Date sent: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 17:27:54 -0400 Subject:Re: "bare metal" installation To: Community support for Fedora users Send reply to: Community support for Fedora

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 19 Sep 2025 at 17:27, Go Canes wrote: From: Go Canes Date sent: Fri, 19 Sep 2025 17:27:54 -0400 Subject:Re: "bare metal" installation To: Community support for Fedora users Send reply to: Community support for Fedora

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 2:13 PM home user via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > I've seen a few references to "sub-volumes" in this thread. > > What are the advantages of using sub-volumes? > They can replace partitions, which use a fixed size, so if you guess wrong you have to put

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Go Canes
On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 1:17 PM home user via users wrote: > What is the (range of) sizes (in megabytes) of the current Fedora-42 > workstation kernel? > How much of a difference does it make whether it's Gnome or KDE? These are all Fedora 41 with KDE - laptop 1 - 146M - laptop 2 - 44M - laptop 3

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2025-09-19 at 11:17 -0600, home user via users wrote: > What is the (range of) sizes (in megabytes) of the current Fedora-42 > workstation kernel? > How much of a difference does it make whether it's Gnome or KDE? The kernel has nothing to do with Gnome or KDE. Those are desktop environme

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Go Canes
On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 1:13 PM home user via users wrote: > What are the advantages of using sub-volumes? Flexibility > What are the trade-offs? "With great power comes great responsibility." OK - just complexity. > Are they required or optional? Totally optional (maybe depending on file sys

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Go Canes
On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 12:41 PM home user via users wrote: > When I ordered my desktop, I was told by 2 different salesmen that cases > are no longer made with 5 1/4 inch slots. So I cannot do a blu-ray > drive with a SATA interface. I had to order an external drive, and > everything that I saw

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Go Canes
On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 12:07 PM home user via users wrote: > On 9/17/2025 1:27 PM, Go Canes wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 2:48 PM home user via users > >> A drive is divided into sectors, which are divided into blocks. Am > I right? > > > > Correct, although you usually don't care about

Re: dual-boot installation instructions.

2025-09-19 Thread home user via users
(responding to both Samuel and Patrick) On 9/17/2025 4:35 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2025-09-17 at 15:09 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/17/25 3:42 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2025-09-16 at 20:48 -0600, home user via users wrote: I don't recall ever using a VM, at least

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread home user via users
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Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread home user via users
I've seen a few references to "sub-volumes" in this thread. What are the advantages of using sub-volumes? What are the trade-offs? Are they required or optional? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread home user via users
(replying to Samuel, Go Canes, and Patrick) On 9/17/2025 4:04 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/17/25 2:37 PM, home user via users wrote: On 9/17/2025 1:11 PM, Go Canes wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 12:51 PM home user via users wrote: I think that ideally, long, high resolution videos would be b

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread home user via users
On 9/17/2025 3:53 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/17/25 9:55 AM, home user via users wrote: On 9/16/2025 7:20 PM, Go Canes wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 8:18 PM Tim via users wrote: Oh, and this bit (above)...  It's hard to predict future needs, and I have my doubts about any modern hardware (

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2025-09-19 at 13:40 +0200, Francis Montagnac via users wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 11:32:30 +0100 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > FWIW I stopped consulting the web interface when they adopted > > HyperKitty. I keep my own archive for searching (a fancy way of saying > > I never delete

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Francis Montagnac via users
On Fri, 19 Sep 2025 11:32:30 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > FWIW I stopped consulting the web interface when they adopted > HyperKitty. I keep my own archive for searching (a fancy way of saying > I never delete list messages from the IMAP server except for spam), > though that obviously does

Re: "bare metal" installation

2025-09-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2025-09-17 at 11:32 -0600, home user via users wrote: > When I try to search this list's archives, I get a 4 to 5 year gap in > the results.  This has been happening for a while.  Here is a link to a > screen-capture of what I mean: > "https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DlWoAt5jDlYKGBOT6b4H

Re: Intermittent total freeze of KDE - [SOLVED]

2025-09-19 Thread Frank Bures
On 2025-07-31 11:16, Frank Bures wrote: On 2025-07-25 03:55, Barry wrote: I lookerd for the “nouveau :2b:00.0: gsp: mmu fault queued“ in web search and see lots of reports of the same issue. You could look into those reports. You may need to try using the rpmfusion nvidia drivers for a s