Apologies for necroposting, but I've been looking for a similar feature
and the lack of it annoyed me sufficiently that I wrote a patch to add
the required functionality to hdparm.
Details here:
http://www.altechnative.net/?p=140
Patch here:
http://sourceforge.net/support/tracker.php?aid=327651
Hi,
I'm trying to install F18 and I am falling foul of bug 529153. The
problem is to bad on my EVGA SR2 that the installer pretty much locks
up. If I boot with "noapic noacpi nosmp" I can get the installer to
complete most of the time, and with the same options I can get the
machine to boot,
I'm a not quite up to speed on systemd, so I'm hoping somebody here
might point me in the right direction WRT the Fedora systemd init
process flow.
I'm trying to work around bug 529153:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529153
The closest to a workable solution I have come up with is
On 02/05/2013 10:06 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:32:34 +
Gordan Bobic wrote:
I'm a not quite up to speed on systemd, so I'm hoping somebody here
might point me in the right direction WRT the Fedora systemd init
process flow.
I'm trying to work ar
On 02/05/2013 11:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
If anyone has any ideas on this, I would very much like to hear
about them. As it stands every Fedora and RHEL release since F11 is
completely unusable on my machine, which seems
With the latest 3.7.5-201 kernel, I see this in dmesg:
p4-clockmod: Warning: EST-capable CPU detected. The acpi-cpufreq module
offers voltage scaling in addition to frequency scaling. You should use
that instead of p4-clockmod, if possible.
It looks like p4-clockmod is built into the kernel,
Is there any reason why NFS root might not work in F18?
A year or so ago, there was this discussion on a related list:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/arm/2011-December/002433.html
I'm wondering of NFS root would work with F18. Has anyone tried it?
Does the default kernel support it?
On 09/02/2013 09:03, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 09.02.2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
As long as I will still be able to USE LibreOffice, then I guess I wouldn't
mind the devs inserting another office suite for variety, and choice!
And are you a student who's used Libreoffice/Openoffice a long
On 09/02/2013 20:18, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 09.02.2013, Gordan Bobic wrote:
You would chose another distribution over having a choice between two nearly
identical packages? Wow.
"Nearly identical"
could mean a lot of extra work to particularly learn a new
system. Time which you can
On 09/02/2013 23:32, Steven Stern wrote:
On 02/09/2013 03:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/09/2013 01:32 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
You have to
fight with incompatibilities because you're using Impress while all
the machines at the congresses are solely running Powerpoint (which
causes
incompatibilitie
sn't exist -
cry a river, build a bridge and get over it.
Heinz Diehl wrote:
>On 10.02.2013, Gordan Bobic wrote:
>
>> Guys, this thread is just turning into trolling. If you don't like
>> Libre/Open Office and you just have to use MS Office, go use Windows and
>
On 10/02/2013 12:16, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 10.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
said this: whar was exactly your point at all?
if you want stable layouts DO NOT USE OFFICE PACKAGES for
layouts and this is a known fact since at least 10 years
Using an office package and delivering files in its for
On 10/02/2013 22:40, Roger wrote:
There's no whining and trolling, and nobody hates Libroffice.
It's a discussion about facts which affect real life. When you have to
present at University/College, you urgently want your presentation to
have the same (=100% identical) look it had when you devel
On 11/02/2013 23:07, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 11.02.2013 23:43, schrieb Robert Moskowitz:
Do I have this right?
since on a duo core system, /proc/cpuinfo reports both cores and a bogomips
number for each, that number is the
value for a core. Thus 'in theory' the bogomips for the unit is the
On 12/02/2013 00:42, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 12.02.2013 01:17, schrieb Robert Moskowitz:
On 02/11/2013 06:07 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 11.02.2013 23:43, schrieb Robert Moskowitz:
Do I have this right?
since on a duo core system, /proc/cpuinfo reports both cores and a bogomips
number fo
On 12/02/2013 09:42, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
On 02/12/2013 02:23 AM, Digimer wrote:
Hi all,
Has anyone gotten an external monitor working on a Thinkpad W530 (or
similar, T530, etc) laptop? I've got Fedora 18 x86_64 running integrated
graphics only (I tried getting optimus to work but got tir
On 12/02/2013 10:46, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 12.02.2013 11:01, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 12/02/2013 00:42, Reindl Harald wrote:
under real load the XEON is so much faster even
with the virualization overhead which is small
these days but still exists
Small as in un-noticeable if your VMs
On 12/02/2013 12:00, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
On 02/12/2013 11:22 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 12/02/2013 09:42, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
I worked out a solution (but it is not easy) where I drive the LCD with Intel
and the external VGA with Nvidia.
The secondary X server can be run and stopped
On 12/02/2013 12:17, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 12.02.2013 12:58, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 12/02/2013 10:46, Reindl Harald wrote:
means:
you buy much better hardware with more and faster CPU's
for a single device as you would buy for 20 machines
and most of the day one or two guest
On 12/02/2013 13:24, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 12.02.2013 13:38, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
-O3 -march=corei7 -mtune=corei7 -mmmx -msse2 -msse3 -msse4.1 -msse4.2 -maes
-fopenmp -mfpmath=sse
That just tells me you didn't push the machine to full saturation.
Virtualization takes resources, an
On 12/02/2013 14:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 12.02.2013 14:37, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 12/02/2013 13:24, Reindl Harald wrote:
that just tells that you can disable a lot of services
and overhead in a VM you would never do on bare metal
and it tells that the hypervisor can schedule IO much
On 14/02/2013 21:14, Min Wang wrote:
Hi
has anyone successfully installed ESXi ( tried version) on the
Fedora/Centos KVM?
If so, what's the good the processor model?
tried serveral combinatnion of cpu model and ESX 3.5 and 5.1 ( trial
version) without success
(1) tried ESX Sever 3i (3.5.0) bu
On 14/02/2013 23:26, Jim wrote:
Fedora 18
Why for HEAVENS did they change the custom partitioning in F18 from the
F17 and previous versions ?
Is there a Tutorial for Custom Partitioning for Fedora 18 ?
Ctrl+Alt+F2
fdisk /dev/
Dumbing down of installation time partitioning customization since
On 15/02/2013 23:22, jonc wrote:
On 02/15/2013 05:28 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 14/02/2013 23:26, Jim wrote:
Fedora 18
Why for HEAVENS did they change the custom partitioning in F18 from the
F17 and previous versions ?
Is there a Tutorial for Custom Partitioning for Fedora 18 ?
Perhaps
On 02/16/2013 01:32 PM, jonc wrote:
I also believe one reason they've reduced the feature set in Gnome 3 is
to reduce future maintenance demands. After all, it's not like they
number in the hundreds.
Maintenance requirement was also the reason cited for removing custom
partitioning features f
On 02/17/2013 01:22 PM, jonc wrote:
On 02/17/2013 06:35 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Funny you should say that. I am a refugee to KDE on non-RAM-limited
machines specifically because I found Gnome 3 so utterly unusable when
I first saw it that I cannot imagine myself ever trying it again. And
I use
On 02/17/2013 09:09 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
As far as I'm concerned I love Gnome 3.x!..I figure this is WAY
better than the horrible interface from Windows Vista!
You do realize that saying it's better than Vista isn't exactly a
glowing endorsment, right?
Gordan
--
users mailing
On 02/17/2013 10:27 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 02/17/2013 05:22 PM, jonc wrote:
On 02/17/2013 04:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 17.02.2013 22:35, schrieb jonc:
It's my understanding that Fedora's primary role is to evaluate and
explore software for Red Hat, not necessarily
to produce
On 02/17/2013 10:51 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 02/17/2013 05:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 17.02.2013 23:27, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.:
Judging by your last statement am I to assume that CentOS is more "reliable"
than Fedora?...
you know hat RHEL is?
http://de.wikipedia.org/wik
On 02/18/2013 11:26 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 23:29 +, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Personally, I use CentOS/Scientific Linux in most cases, and only use
Fedora when I absolutely have to. I find (and file) way too many bugs
in supposedly stable EL as it is.
You will be screwed if the
On 02/18/2013 11:31 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:50:22 +1030
Tim wrote:
On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 15:22 -0500, jonc wrote:
Still, FOSS has no reliable way to measure who likes what, or who uses
what...
Or who despises something, but still carries on using it, anyway. Nor
can yo
On 02/18/2013 01:49 PM, jonc wrote:
On 02/18/2013 06:31 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:50:22 +1030
Tim wrote:
On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 15:22 -0500, jonc wrote:
Still, FOSS has no reliable way to measure who likes what, or who uses
what...
Or who despises something, but still carr
On 18/02/2013 22:57, jonc wrote:
On 02/18/2013 04:49 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
...the people who really do think that everybody should love Gnome 3
because they do are providing a disproportionate percentage of the
comments on it... and that some of the Gnome 3 devs (being human)
listen more to what
On 18/02/2013 23:09, jonc wrote:
On 02/18/2013 04:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
fine - but it is not fair to build a large user base over years
and then thow all away and explain them "that is how you have
to work from now on"
Why is it not fair? What do developers have to lose if they annoy u
On 19/02/2013 01:48, David wrote:
On 2/18/2013 7:48 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 02/18/2013 04:12 PM, jonc issued this missive:
On 02/18/2013 07:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
I don't think you can take comments on lists or forums to represent the
opinions and experience of average users.
I rather t
On 19/02/2013 02:17, David wrote:
On 2/18/2013 8:55 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/18/2013 05:48 PM, David wrote:
And, after all of the negative, nasty, comments in places like
here/ They switched to some flavor of Ubuntu.
Or, for that matter, they've kept the same distro but switched to a
differe
On 19/02/2013 03:32, jonc wrote:
Should developers pay attention when someone says,"Hey! This is
broken!"? Of course.
Given my experience of Fedora bugs being ignored until the EOL bot
closes them, it suggests that they don't even do that the vast majority
of the time.
Should they pay att
On 19/02/2013 03:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 19:49:40 -0800
Joe Zeff wrote:
How about when they replace a program that works fine (anaconda) with
a new version that doesn't do as much and/or is much harder for most
people to use. Do you find that type of criticism justified?
On 19/02/2013 04:06, jonc wrote:
On 02/18/2013 10:49 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/18/2013 07:32 PM, jonc wrote:
Your tone seems to suggest you think developers owe something to users
("very, VERY justified criticism"). I don't think they do, and I don't
think developers have any more reason to pay
On 19/02/2013 07:41, Roger wrote:
Not that it matters, and no one is paying me, here's why I'm using
Gnome Shell on Fedora 18, after rejecting it previously:
1. It's fast and reliable.
2. I like the way it looks.
I'll stop here, because many complaints about how it works, mine too,
are a "loo
On 19/02/2013 07:44, David wrote:
On 2/19/2013 2:34 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 02/18/2013 09:04 PM, jonc wrote:
On 02/18/2013 01:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/18/2013 03:31 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
In fact FOSS has no way to tell if the passionate advocates of
nonsense like Gnome 3 are actuall
On 19/02/2013 13:33, jonc wrote:
On 02/19/2013 07:01 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
And now you touch upon another important issue. This is more of a
distro maintenance issue. It is also probably why Ubuntu maintainers
pay more attention to such things - because their users are their
_customers_
On 19/02/2013 14:04, jonc wrote:
On 02/19/2013 08:42 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
Yet they are constrained by whatever filters down from Fedora. By the
time it gets to the point of rolling a new EL release, it'd take too
much resources to reverse the course set in Fedora.
I've always as
On 19/02/2013 17:48, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
had 512 bytes blocksize
[]
Most of the "conventional" harddisks have a sectorsize/blocksize of
512/512. All the newer and bigger WD/Seagate drives and SSDs are using
"adv
On 19/02/2013 18:25, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 19:19, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 17:48, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
i can not remember when the last ext3/ext4
had 512 bytes blocksize
[]
Most of the "conventional" harddi
On 19/02/2013 18:53, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 19:44, schrieb Heinz Diehl:
On 19.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote:
and why did you strip the part where i showed you that any of my
filesystems of the last 5 years have a 4 KB blocksize as also
any of my hardware of the last 5 years is "new
On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to align on the partitions?
For a start, making sure your RAID implementation puts the metadata
at the end of the disk, rather than the beginning.
"my RAID implementation&qu
On 19/02/2013 19:08, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/19/2013 03:52 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
boot-up time fascination is not something for grown-ups to get hung up
about
Unless you're using a laptop/notebook/netbook or you keep your box shut
down when you're not using it,
As a matter of f
On 19/02/2013 19:42, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:24, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to align on the partitions?
For a start, making sure your RAID implementation puts the
On 19/02/2013 20:15, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:59, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 19:42, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:24, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 19:05, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 20:02, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
what exactly do you need to
On 19/02/2013 21:01, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 21:55, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
To give you an idea, I have a 24/7 server here, with a 4GB rootfs (ext4, no
journal), including /var/log, and gets
yum updated reasonably regularly. It was created in May 2011, and has since
then seen a
On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 22:42, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 19/02/2013 21:01, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 19.02.2013 21:55, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
To give you an idea, I have a 24/7 server here, with a 4GB rootfs (ext4, no
journal), including /var/log, and gets
On 02/19/2013 10:54 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 02/19/2013 05:41 PM, Noah Cutler wrote:
I have the 830 and was researching whether or not fstab "discard" option
was still necessary for SSDs with ext4 partitions.
Apparently it is for most SSDs, except for the Samsung 840 Pro, which
apparently uses a n
On 02/19/2013 10:41 PM, Noah Cutler wrote:
I have the 830 and was researching whether or not fstab "discard" option
was still necessary for SSDs with ext4 partitions.
Apparently it is for most SSDs, except for the Samsung 840 Pro, which
apparently uses a new technology that conflicts with "disca
On 02/20/2013 12:43 AM, Digimer wrote:
On 02/19/2013 07:03 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 02/19/2013 10:54 PM, Digimer wrote:
On 02/19/2013 05:41 PM, Noah Cutler wrote:
I have the 830 and was researching whether or not fstab "discard"
option
was still necessary for SSDs with ext4
On 20/02/2013 06:22, Steve Ellis wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Gordan Bobic mailto:gor...@bobich.net>> wrote:
On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
No, my experience does not go as far back 6 years for obvious
reasons. My exprience with mechanical
On 20/02/2013 08:20, poma wrote:
On 02/20/13 00:52, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
[…]
data without a raid are useless
My point was that even RAID is next to useless because it doesn't
protect you against bit-rot.
Stone carving is what we aim?
On 20/02/2013 09:01, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 20.02.2013 00:52, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 02/19/2013 10:00 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
data without a raid are useless
My point was that even RAID is next to useless because it doesn't protect you
against bit-rot.
it does
OK, say you
On 20/02/2013 12:01, Tim wrote:
On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 19:56 +, Gordan Bobic wrote:
40 seconds vs 60 seconds to boot up really matters? Really? I find
my machines, laptops included, take longer to POST than they take to
boot up even with mechanical disks, let alone with SSDs.
I wouldn&#
On 20/02/2013 18:01, poma wrote:
On 02/20/13 11:55, Gordan Bobic wrote:
[…]
Filesystem features: has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index
filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file huge_file
dir_nlink extra_isize metadata_csum
Checksum: 0x62b7798f
On 20/02/2013 19:12, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 02/20/2013 05:20 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
The only conclusion I can make is that the quality of the code and
skills to write it has deteriorated even faster than the rate of
performance improvement of hardware.
Back in the early days, programmers spent
On 21/02/2013 14:31, David wrote:
On 2/21/2013 5:28 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 02/18/2013 08:15 AM, jonc wrote:
On 02/18/2013 03:34 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 18:05 -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Am going to look into thisas I want to "build" a server at home,
and
On 21/02/2013 15:09, David wrote:
On 2/21/2013 9:55 AM, Gordan Bobic wrote:
On 21/02/2013 14:31, David wrote:
On 2/21/2013 5:28 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 02/18/2013 08:15 AM, jonc wrote:
On 02/18/2013 03:34 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 18:05 -0500, Eddie G. O'
On 21/02/2013 15:16, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 21.02.2013 15:55, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
Win2K is kinda' old.
No aero, no metro, relatively little bloat (by Windows standards)
and no security updates
There are for another year and a bit. Do actually read up on the facts
before sp
On 21/02/2013 15:23, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 21.02.2013 16:20, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
On 21/02/2013 15:16, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 21.02.2013 15:55, schrieb Gordan Bobic:
Win2K is kinda' old.
No aero, no metro, relatively little bloat (by Windows standards)
and no security up
On 21/02/2013 15:46, David wrote:
I would have happily put the drive into another machine running Linux,
mount it and try to salvage any important data of it, yes.
Really? Ignoring the Linux part if the drive was bad it could damage
another computer no matter what OS it was using.
If the ma
On 21/02/2013 16:17, Tim wrote:
On Wed, 2013-02-20 at 11:12 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
Back in the early days, programmers spent the time and effort to
optimize their code because time is money and RAM was expensive.
And not there... On many personal computers, the limit to what you
could put int
On 22/02/2013 20:08, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 22.02.2013 21:01, schrieb Joe Zeff:
On 02/22/2013 11:53 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
Ha! Punched cards! We would have thanked God for
punched cards! The Data General Nova in the engineering
lab at FAU only had an ASR-33 tty with a paper
tape attachment :
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