Re: stop posting replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies...

On 10/30/2024 03:46 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: although having said that I also get annoyed if I have to read through multiple mail threads to get the full context of what the reply is addressing, and in my view it is bad mail etiquette to not include that context Yes, you include enough text t

Re: Being Removed From the Mail List

On 10/23/2024 03:43 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi,     How do I unsubscribe a defunct email address that no longer works? regards, Steve Read the instructions at the bottom of this, and every message from the list. Since the email address in question is defunct, edit the From header in t

Re: [CLOSED]: quick (hopefully) dnf logs question.

On 10/22/2024 03:17 PM, home user via users wrote: ok.  I'll assume the messages are gone and move on to the next problem. If you want to save any messages, add this to the command: > tee output.txt This will let you both see the output and save it to a file. HTH HAND. --

Re: urgent major problem after f39 to f40 upgrade.

On 10/11/2024 11:54 AM, home user via users wrote: It's been 11+ years since I last installed that.  I don't remember how to do it or where the instructions are.  Please give me or tell me where to find simple,clear, current,complete, correct instructions. You can find one of many HOWTOs for

Re: password issue with f40

On 06/19/2024 02:31 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote: So, if you’ve used a rescue disk to boot into Linux, chroot into your OS’s disk, and run “passwd” to change a password, or otherwise edit /etc/shadow or /etc/passwd (or other files in /etc), you most likely need to fix the selinux labels of thos

Re: getting out of bridge mode

On 05/22/2024 12:36 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: You probably need your ISP to do that.  Once it's in bridge mode, it's basically invisible.  Whatever device is connected to it has a direct internet connection now.  You might be able to access it if you can figure out the IP address.  Do you remember

Re: getting out of bridge mode

On 05/22/2024 12:31 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: How many young goats do I need? One will probably be enough, as long as you make sure to use black candles. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to use

Re: Fedora 40 virtual machine

On 4/23/24 11:44, Paolo Galtieri wrote: Anaconda is unable to create /var/run/anaconda.pid because the file already exists. Anaconda is already running, or a previous instance of anaconda has crashed. I may have to try several times before I can install it to the drive. Have you tried dele

Re: Stuck at grub prompt after reordering partitions

On 04/20/2024 03:16 PM, George N. White III wrote: In preparation for converting my dual boot Win10+Fedora system to Fedora only, I needed to expand the Win11 partition on another dual boot system because some "mission critical" Adobe PDF documents require Windows. In all the years I've been us

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

On 04/17/2024 05:09 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: There are: https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap basically, the plan is to have prelim support in the next release (4.20) and refine/improve it after that. Excellent! Thanx for bringing that to my attention. --

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

On 04/17/2024 11:08 AM, t_...@tiscali.it wrote: I'm on fedora since years. If they'll completely drop X11, I need to change distro. Any suggestion on which distro is good for continuing to use the "VERY OLD" X11/Mwm ? Thanks And so will I along with everybody using Xfce as I don't know if there

Re: After having updated nvidia drivers, cannot start obs

On 03/30/2024 10:43 AM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Have you wait for akmods to compile the nvidia kernel modules before rebooting ? Unless things have changed considerably since I used those drivers, the akmod module runs at boot, and checks to see if it needs to do anything. If it do

Re: VDQ finding dnf names

On 03/26/2024 10:55 AM, Will McDonald wrote: And those launchers live under /usr/share/applications/ and ~/.local/share/applications/ I don't know about Gnome, but in Xfce, you can right-click on a launcher on the desktop and select Edit Launcher. KISS. -- _

Re: VDQ finding dnf names

On 03/26/2024 10:41 AM, Beartooth wrote: It couldn't find brave, falcon, opera, nor vivaldi. VERY Dumb Question : How do I look up what it calls them? Assuming that they have launchers on your desktop, edit the launcher and look at the command. HTH, HAND. -- _

Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

On 03/25/2024 07:57 PM, Tim via users wrote: Brute force and ignorance is a tried and tested method. Trying to be clever with boot menus, and carefully selecting specific partitions while installing, often goes awry. Not to mention the times you come across an installer that only wants to do a

Re: HP elitedesk 705 G1 mt will not boot from dvd

On 03/25/2024 09:33 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: I've actually set up my Linux machines so that they mount /home on an NFS file server in my home office. I can nuke my desktop and reinstall it in less than 10 minutes with a kickstart, and my home directory is unchanged. Makes it a lot easier whe

Re: Hotel wifi network - how to connect / ssh between 2 laptops

On 03/22/2024 12:02 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: I have, in the past, successfully gotten around firewalls that only allow http/https on tcp by setting the port for ssh to 80,8080,443 or 8443. And if I ever ran into one of those I'd be complaining loud and long and challenging their claims to provid

Re: Failed to start jobs message from today's F39 update

On 03/13/2024 12:33 PM, Mike Wright wrote: I couldn't find any way to pass grep options to -g but grep itself has -A and -B for showing "n" number of lines After or Before the matched context. If you need to pass options to grep, consider piping the output of journalctl through grep instead.

Re: Failed to start jobs message from today's F39 update

On 03/12/2024 12:33 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Failed to start jobs: Failed to enqueue some jobs, see logs for details: Invalid argument Should I worry?  I don't even know what armadillo is. Did you look at the logs and if not, why not? Checking Wikipedia, armadillo is a C++ library for linear

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 03/11/2024 12:49 AM, Tim via users wrote: Joe Zeff wrote (about web forums): why don't you simply set as many of them as possible to email you when there's a reply? Have you noticed how many of them won't let you reply to an email notification? Essentially you get a &quo

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 03/10/2024 01:46 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 3/10/24 14:39, Thomas Cameron wrote: ... but that's always the case with the myriad of fora which which I interact. Correction, I meant to write "that's not* always the case..." OK, fair enough. But you still don't need to keep tabs constant

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 03/10/2024 01:39 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: Where did I write that I did that at all? The Fedora forum *can* send emails, as Kevin pointed out, but that's always the case with the myriad of fora which which I interact. If so, as I pointed out before, you don't need to keep all of those tabs

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 03/10/2024 01:20 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: I'm not sure why you're refusing to understand my point here. Oh, I understand your point, I just think that you're going out of your way to make your life more difficult than it needs to be. Instead of keeping each forum open on a tab and obses

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 03/10/2024 11:14 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: I'm not saying that. What I AM saying, is that every time I need to go to a forum, I have to open a separate tab. It's a pain. You only need to have a tab open for a forum when you're actively using it. Why are you going out of your way to make

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

On 03/10/2024 10:40 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: I hate using fora. I generally have to open a separate tab for each forum I'm on, and I'm on a LOT. Why keep a separate tab for each forum open at all times? How many of them do you actually need to look at each day? -- __

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

On 02/27/2024 10:48 AM, Go Canes wrote: I can think of 2 ways off the top of my head 1) put the lockfile in a memory-based file system like /tmp, /run, etc. This is probably the "correct" way. 2) compare when the system was booted against when the lock file was created. If boot time > lock

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

On 02/27/2024 10:39 AM, Tim via users wrote: A program ought to be able to detect a stale lock file still remaining and handle it itself. And how do you suggest that it detects it? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: Thunderbird Mystery

On 02/26/2024 06:44 PM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On one of my f39 systems Thundebird fails to start claiming that it is already running. "ksyguard" from root doesn't show anything I can recognize as having to do with Thunderbird. Rebooting does not get it to work. Looked at the ".thunder

Re: imminent /boot problem.

On 02/22/2024 03:46 PM, home user wrote: It's dual boot: Fedora-38 and windows-7. I seriously doubt that the /boot partition can be made larger, but I'm no sys.admin. and I could be wrong. Dual boot doesn't matter. /boot is only used by Linux, and generally isn't ever mounted when you're us

Re: How do I read result of a QR Code

On 01/22/2024 01:47 PM, Tim via users wrote: I remember trying that out on Win98SE, just within a LAN. Gawd, it was a pain. And I'm sure it was full of buffer overflows, like all Microsoft products. Well, I am a BOFH, you know. Letting him find out the hard way was the easiest way to get ri

Re: How do I read result of a QR Code

On 1/22/24 04:49, Tim via users wrote: I'm sure it would have been cheaper to have designed their security better, in the first place. They probably spend more on their advertising budget than IT, so it's not like they can't afford it. Back around the turn of the Millenium, I had a caller wh

Re: How do I read result of a QR Code

On 1/22/24 00:30, Tim via users wrote: Then, when it went haywire one day I had to tell telephone support the password to sort things out. Embarrassing, and quite satisfying at the same time. When I was doing tech support, the ID10Ts in IT decided to make our passwords expire after 60 days o

Re: How do I read result of a QR Code

On 1/21/24 17:39, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Okay, that was a "Dad Joke" but it probably is a really strong password and easy to remember.  I recommend run on phrases to my customers.  When I make them up for them, I often use a phrase that flatters their business. Those they never forget.

Re: NVMe sector size ?

On 01/10/2024 08:48 PM, Tim via users wrote: I didn't choose block sizes, just some partition sizes in bytes on my systems. So I'd hope the install routine from the ISO files would make some tests and choose things wisely (ha ha!) for me. If memory serves, if you use a custom partitioning sche

Re: Function Key becomes permanently pressed after a couple of minutes after boot (temporary fix: reboot)

On 12/21/2023 03:01 PM, Roger Heflin wrote: So you have a hardware problem (key random locks), or a hardware mis-understanding (some combination set it to be locked) of what can cause the fn key to "lock". Which is why I started out by suggesting that the appropriate keyboard key be cleaned.

Re: Function Key becomes permanently pressed after a couple of minutes after boot (temporary fix: reboot)

On 12/21/2023 12:20 PM, Lamy Geier wrote: ### What should I do? AFAICT, none of your system specs is even remotely relevant and should have been left out. My suggestion is to start by removing the keycap from your function key (Modern keyboards are made with this in mind.) and cleaning out

Re: Machine locks on reboot from suspend

On 12/19/2023 10:46 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: The proprietary nVidia driver doesn't exhibit the same problem. You're better off removing those and using the akmods from rpmfusion as you don't have to reinstall the drivers every time you install a new kernel. -- _

Re: I think Firefox crashed my system

On 12/10/2023 03:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: In my case at least there wasn't even a mouse cursor on screen, and the fact that nothing was written to the journal for about 10 hours before I rebooted would seem to indicate everything was dead. I should have tried an ssh from my laptop but wa

Re: btrfs Backups

On 12/08/2023 12:51 PM, Tim Evans wrote: Thanks, Roger.  Actually, I have a dim recollection of having set up a thing called 'rnsapshot' to a NAS appliance for a client some years ago.  Nothing to do with btrfs filesystems, but IIRC this should be just what I need.  Thanks for refreshing my

Re: 6.6.x kernels do not boot successfully

On 12/08/2023 07:07 AM, olivares33561 via users wrote: Starting systemd-fsck-root.service - File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/8ff57a6b-2a55-4e9d-870d-855d-855d68d35bee... [ OK ] Starting systemd-fsck-root.service - File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/8ff57a6b-2a55-4e9d-870d-855d

Re: f38: 2 Thunderbird misbehaviors.

On 12/06/2023 06:57 AM, John Mellor wrote: X is no longer maintained properly, and by F38 is no longer fully functional.  More functionality removal has happened in F39, and I believe that it is on the feature list of F40 for full removal. And what's going to happen to those of us using a DE t

Re: NVIDIA RPM DNF Update Issue?

On 12/02/2023 10:27 AM, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda comes from rpmfusion and only provides the cuda driver, not the whole cuda software. If this is sufficient for BOINC, using only the rpmfusion repository will work and will be simpler to manage. I've been using B

Re: how to remove unwanted old kernels.

On 12/01/2023 03:25 PM, home user wrote: The rpm command did not give me enough information, so I had to do the reboot. You could always look in /boot and see what's there. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: how to remove unwanted old kernels.

On 12/01/2023 11:53 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 'rpm -qa kernel' will list all the installed kernels. The one to be deleted on the next dnf update will be the oldest. Fedora once supplied a program to remove all kernels except the running one and the newest. It's rather old (2011) but shou

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

On 11/25/2023 12:08 AM, Tim via users wrote: So, come OS install and update times, I tend to open a box, inspect heatsinks, clean it, and reseat all the connections. Having a spare power supply to swap over is handy, too. They don't always age well, especially the bargain basement types. Have

Re: weekly patches crippled my display.

On 11/23/2023 01:02 PM, home user wrote: I'm not a sys.admin., and the display is very limited.  What's the cause of these problems, and how do I fix things? The first thing is probably to examine /var/log/boot.log to see if there are any clues there. --

Re: Can't log in to graphical workstation

On 11/15/2023 02:15 PM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: Wonder if changing to lightdm would work? Have used lightdm in past with some machines, and it seems to be a simplier desktop manager, but still works with gnome and xfce? I don't know about Gnome, but it's the default with Xfce. ___

Re: tigervnc won't remove

On 11/14/2023 05:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: How do I fix this? You might try just removing tigervnc and letting it remove the no-longer needed dependencies. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: emacs is hopeless

On 11/14/2023 01:40 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: The problem appears to be wayland, I thought I had tested under x11 and wayland, but gnome was sneaking a wayland session into existence behind my back. When I really managed to start in x11 for sure, emacs no longer seemed wacky. Two suggestions: firs

[Off List] Re: emacs is hopeless

On 11/14/2023 12:26 PM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: What really irritates me about vi and its friends is that it throws you out of editing (insert) mode in order to save the file, and needs another key to come back in. You might want to consider nano; the most common commands are listed at

Re: emacs is hopeless

On 11/12/2023 11:33 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: On that mailing list, yes. Don't you think that opening a Bugzilla would be a Good Idea? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.f

Re: emacs is hopeless

On 11/12/2023 11:19 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: I wonder why emacs users have not reported my issue with 29.1 on the emacs mailing list. Have you reported it? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: Time to replace SSD disk?

On 11/04/2023 04:48 PM, Javier Perez wrote: Hi. My boot SSD was purchased on May, 2015. It is a Crucial 128GB one. Cockpit is showing me an error of /sys/firmware/efi/efivars 0 free This may be redundant, but before you start, make a complete backup of that disk on removable media. Running Bl

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

On 11/03/2023 11:50 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: 210    linkedin.com 146    yahoo.com  88    yahoo.net  63    linkedin.com Why do you have both an extension and a tab for linkedin.com, and extensions for both yahoo.com and yahoo.net? ___ use

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

On 11/02/2023 02:10 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: With firefox frozen. And with it closed? What I'm trying to find out is how much of that is stuff Firefox needs to keep between sessions and how much of it is session specific. ___ users mailing list

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

On 11/02/2023 01:55 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 2 Nov 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/02/2023 10:21 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: /dev/sda7    32G   23G  7.1G  76% /home If I'm not mistaken, firefox puts its working files both in /tmp and in your home directory.  If so, that m

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

On 11/02/2023 10:21 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: /dev/sda7    32G   23G  7.1G  76% /home If I'm not mistaken, firefox puts its working files both in /tmp and in your home directory. If so, that may be your problem. Consider installing Bleachbit and letting it clean all of the cruft out.

Re: firefox keeps freezing on me

On 11/01/2023 09:12 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: My firefox on F38 freezes a lot. I get "Firefox" is not responding a lot. Firefox can be quite a memory hog, depending on what you're doing. What does free -h show you, as well as df You might be running short of memory and/or disk space. _

Re: docker and iptables

On 10/23/2023 09:54 PM, Tim via users wrote: I had to set a password for some in-store credit card, later on I had to tell them "th!sTh1ngreallysucks" to a person when it wouldn't work. Back when I was doing tech support for an ISP, they had password protected web pages that were only accessib

Re: docker and iptables

On 10/20/2023 01:39 AM, jdow wrote: I bet something as simple as "horsehair" is far enough down the guess list that the probability of a successful attack is out at way more time than I have life left. When you can put time on your side life's great. I used to house sit for Jerry Pournelle, an

Re: Keyboard repeat

On 10/19/2023 11:16 AM, Tim via users wrote: I'm always suspicious of the keyboard, itself, with those kinds of issues. Which is problematic to diagnose and deal with, when it's a built-in keyboard on a laptop. And looking at images of the Dell G15 F38 laptop you mentioned shows the kind of key

Re: Scanner works!

On 10/15/2023 12:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Use 'sudo avahi-browse -a -t' to check that printer, scanner etc. are all visible. Use DNS-SD (Avahi) versions of drivers. If you don't need it very often, you're best off making it into a shell script so that you don't need to wor

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/14/2023 08:33 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Since all you get is a grub prompt and it never moves beyound that wouldn't that indicate the BIOS is pointing to the wrong boot device and finding nothing there? This is a new, blank hard drive, with nothing on it, not even grub. Here is a tedious

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/14/2023 02:35 PM, Montague Bestes via users wrote: The fact that the usb inserted prevents you from 'F*number*' (as in F12 or whatever) into your BIOS is the most peculiar thing I have heard. I don't know much about the engineering of these various flash drives and usb drives, but I was s

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/13/2023 05:23 AM, George N. White III wrote: If the Fedora-Everything-38-1.6-x86_64-CHECKSUM file gives "PGP signed message or ASCII, look at the contents with less or more.  If you downloaded on Windows the line endings might be . It gave exactly what I showed. As far as Windows, it's

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

I have the appropriate netinstall for F38 and the CHECKSUM file downloaded and am trying to verify the download. Everything has gone well, until the last step: sha256sum -c Fedora-Everything-38-1.6-x86_64-CHECKSUM When instead of telling me that the .iso is good, I get this: sha256sum: Fedor

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/12/2023 12:34 PM, Eldon wrote: Here are a few things to try. It is possible that you are starting in some sort of USB mode, and then the bootloader is trying to switch mid-boot Three things to remember: first, if I use one of the USB ports, it tries to boot but if I use the other, it goe

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/12/2023 07:04 AM, Tim via users wrote: How did you install F35 on it before? A LiveUSB, of course, just like I'm trying now. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/11/2023 08:22 PM, Tim via users wrote: This is on a brand new computer? No. It's on a laptop that I'd originally installed F35 because that's what was current at the time. The hard drive has failed and a new one installed. It's not in what you quoted, but when I picked the laptop up

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

I have downloaded the F35 .iso, verified it and used dd to put it on a flash drive. If I insert it into one of the laptop's two USB ports and turn it on, it goes directly into the BIOS, and if I exit that, it goes right back in until I pull the drive. If I use the other port, it appears to wo

Re: After F35->F38 install, video player, firefox not behaving well

On 10/07/2023 12:23 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: When I try to play a .avi file, Videos claims "Could not initialise OpenGL support". dnf was not a help. How do I get videos to work? Do you have rpmfusion installed? If not, you'll find instructions for installing/configuring both the free and

Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk

On 10/07/2023 12:11 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: Booting an installer from a hard disk partition used to work, at least sometimes. I'd open a bugzilla against Anaconda, either as a bug or a feature request. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedorap

Re: How do I stop this malware

On 10/05/2023 09:15 PM, Tim via users wrote: It's a pity there isn't a hotkey for killing just the frontmost/topmost program. ALT+F4 will close the top/front window, if they're obeying control, but I mean instantly killing the topmost window despite what it wants. There's a force quit taskbar a

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/05/2023 08:22 PM, Tim via users wrote: I don't recall you showing the output from any commands in the GRUB prompt, such as ls. Which would show drives and content that it finds. I'll be glad to do that if, and only if a flash drive with F35 on it fails. If it works, I'll just assume th

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/05/2023 08:18 PM, Tim via users wrote: But considering you said it did boot some other live distro in the shop, it's probably just something about Fedora's booting. I'm going to download F35, the version I used when I bought the laptop, install from that to avoid the known bug, then upgr

Re: How do I stop this malware

On 10/05/2023 08:05 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: I can switch to another virtual console, but do not know how to kill just one tab. I can got out of it by disconnecting the ethernet cable, but would rather disconnect with the GUI. I don't think that you can kill one tab or one window, but killin

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/05/2023 11:29 AM, stan via users wrote: I don't know that. But, Adam said that this was working in F36, so you might be able to install the F36 live iso, and then upgrade to F38. F36 only went EOL a few months ago, so everything should still be functioning, low bit rot. This reminds me t

Re: How do I stop this malware

On 10/05/2023 12:10 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote: Going fullscreen is part if what makes it hard to even try to make it go away. It sounds like you may need an indirect approach. Can you get to a different virtual console? If so, you may be able to find and kill the malware using top. If no

Re: Question regarding sudo and su

On 10/05/2023 12:20 PM, old sixpack13 wrote: KISS bash history CRTL+r and keyed in "ether" and ENTER thanks anyway ! That works, of course, if the line you need to repeat is different every time. If it's something you use all the time, either a one-liner script, or an alias in .bashrec migh

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/05/2023 04:59 AM, George N. White III wrote: You posted "F12 gets me to BIOS.  If I do, it goes right to the grub prompt". So that no longer works?  Unless you made changes to the BIOS settings, this indicates a hardware problem. How good is the battery?  A very old battery may cause p

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/05/2023 08:51 AM, stan via users wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2181989 Basically anaconda/dracut's iso-scan/filename= has been broken since Fedora 37 included, and is still broken in Fedora 39 Beta, meaning the Live iso can't be booted from a USB stick using grub and i

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/05/2023 08:39 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: But I'd try to keep things as simple as possible, and in your case I'd try to simply recreate the LiveFedora on the USB drive again, from scratch, and then see what happens: it makes no sense to run around in circles and guess again and again. I

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/05/2023 08:39 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Actually that looks like the hardware, your flash thumb, might be fine: it seems grub just can't go any farther than offering the grub prompt, from what-ever reason. But I see reason for optimism regarding your USB device .. My desktop didn't go

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 06:19 PM, George N. White III wrote: You can get some information using the grub prompt.  First thing to try is ls: Yes, I learned that from the guide I linked to. Alas, things are different enough that I have

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 03:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Unless I missed it, I don't think you've mentioned the laptop brand and model, which might give a clue to someone reading this. Gateway, model GWTN156-78K Also, and sorry to be obvious, but have you checked the laptop manufacturer's website

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 02:47 PM, Go Canes wrote: My fault - I had understood the grub prompt was using a live image as opposed to my suggestion of using the server net install image. That's what it's supposed to do, but it never gets as far as a menu. ___ user

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 02:30 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Working from the grub prompt: https://superuser.com/questions/1237684/how-to-boot-from-grub-shell This gives roughly the same instructions as https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/blog/classic-sysadmin-how-to-rescue-a-non-booting-grub-2-on-linux, whi

Re: grub options

On 10/04/2023 02:20 PM, Robert McBroom via users wrote: If you have a time delay set on the boot menu you can use the e command to change the cmdline. ctl/x then boots. The change is then persistent the nest time a kernel is installed. I never get to the boot menu. It just jumps directly

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 02:16 PM, Go Canes wrote: - on the laptop, boot off of the USB drive. If it gives you the expected menu, choose the option for verifying the media. If I could do that, I wouldn't be asking about a grub prompt, would I? ___ users mailing

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 02:16 PM, Go Canes wrote: I don't use live images, so I don't know if they have a problem with the RAID/non-RAID setting. Worst case I would think it would at least boot but just not be able to access the hard drive if the settings were incompatible. Totally irrelevant. Neither

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 01:28 PM, Go Canes wrote: If I understand correctly, on the same laptop: - you can boot off the hard drive and then download the iso file. You can then insert the USB flash drive and copy the iso to the flash drive using dd. - the flash drive passes the checksum test No! The lap

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 12:37 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: And when you're in that boot menu you might actually see your USB drive show up as a boot option. Or that's at least what I would expect. If you don't see the drive there, I'd again try another one The laptop's BIOS obviously sees the drive beca

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 12:37 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: That's no guarantee that the drive works. I'd try another one, especially given that it also fails on your desktop. And as you already mentioned that you saw the laptop running a live system off a flash drive suggests that the machine has no specif

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 07:50 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: If a thumb drive isn't detected at the BIOS boot menu chances are high that either the download for the installed ISO went south or the thumb simply is broken. It's a new drive, the .iso checksum was OK and it does the same thing on my desktop,

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 05:24 AM, George N. White III wrote: Check the vendor's site and web for reports of problems booting USB devices on your model.   There may be a BIOS update.   I think some boot issues on older systems are due to code that doesn't support current USB capacities and filesystems. I

Re: grub options

On 10/04/2023 04:24 AM, Thomas wrote: I had this issue and it's referred in a number of bugs on bugzilla, such as:https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1925776 Either edit /etc/kernel/cmdline to remove the option or use grubby that updates both sets of files and the entries on /boot as w

Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

On 10/04/2023 02:21 AM, Tim via users wrote: Has that laptop ever booted successfully from a USB-anything? Are there any BIOS/UEFI booting options you can play with? When I picked it up at the ship, it was running a live system off a flash drive. If there are any booting options, I don't kno

Getting grub working on a LiveUSB

I've downloaded and verified an .iso for F38 with Xfce, used dd to write it to a new flash drive and tried to boot it on my laptop with a brand new blank hard drive. All I get is a grub prompt. I've tried to follow the instructions at https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/blog/classic-sysadmin

Re: Question regarding sudo and su

On 10/03/2023 03:35 PM, old sixpack13 wrote: I've tested similar. If you're using that exact same command often enough, create an alias for it and put it into your .bashrc. That way, you not only save keystrokes, you avoid typoes. ___ users mailin

Re: Question regarding sudo and su

On 10/03/2023 03:14 PM, old sixpack13 wrote: now, on an command line, I usually do 1. su - ron (ron is in sudo group) 2. and then sudo ether-wake -i enp3s0 && ping nu Why? If you have access to su and the root password, why bother with sudo? Just use su -c "ether-wake -i enp3s0 && ping nu"

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