Re: New kernel install had issues. (6.0.5-200.fc36.x86_64)

2022-10-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 31 Oct 2022 10:26:16 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > So something about a complete power down seems to have made it better. And I tried rebooting again, and that is working now as well. So the power cycle does seem to have made it all better. I guess I'll find out in a few days if

Re: New kernel install had issues. (6.0.5-200.fc36.x86_64)

2022-10-31 Thread Tom Horsley
Slight weirdness for me too. Probably the first time since I installed 6.0.5 I tried to play a youtube video and got no sound (HDMI via rpmfusion nvidia driver). I tried to reboot to go back one kernel version and see if sound worked there, and the reboot blanked the screen, but then was stuck. I

Re: New kernel install had issues. (6.0.5-200.fc36.x86_64)

2022-10-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 09:54:28 -0700 Doug H. wrote: > Everything seems to be working, so I don't need any help, but wanted to > report this just in case. As an additional report, I did a dnf update this morning, got the same kernel, and had no problems at all. Must be one of those things mankind wa

Re: no sound

2022-10-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 20:36:13 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > I'm not saying that you > should look at the hardware first, but don't ignore the possibility. The algorithm I always try to employ (though I often forget :-) is "check the dumb stuff first". Don't go downloading the source to try to find the

Re: Bugs in wine. Any alternatives?

2022-10-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 17:37:46 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > In the case of Wine, I really do need to have it working. > > UNLESS I can find a subsitute. You have any suggestions? I've have never once gotten anything at all to work under wine. That's why I run a windows virtual machine :-

Re: Mailing lists and Discourse

2022-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
Obviously the next step is to merge the Discourse server with systemd! :-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org

Re: email tracking, is it possible in fedora mail clients?

2022-09-13 Thread Tom Horsley
> > claws converts all messages to text, and it takes a plugin to view > > html > > mail.  So, that probably meets this requirement. And I don't have the plugin installed in my claws-mail, so if I really think I want to see an html mail, I can use "open with" (but 99.9% of it I just throw away). _

Re: Trying to install from ISO via grub.cfg - almost there?

2022-08-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:27:24 +1000 Philip Rhoades via users wrote: > Can anyone suggest what the problem is and how to resolve it? Don't recognize this problem specifically, but I have a USB stick with a bunch of iso files on it and a grub configured to let me boot any of them. I used the info at

Re: xmodmap

2022-08-24 Thread Tom Horsley
Don't know about wayland, but on X11, I have a script in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/99-mystuff.sh which runs when X starts and uses the xinput tool to set mouse buttons, not sure if the xinput tool is the right one for keyboard mapping these days. ___ use

Re: 32 bit pam-libs?

2022-08-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 21 Aug 2022 10:52:42 -0500 Javier Perez wrote: > Still no resolution? I did a dnf erase on the old 32 bit lib and let it take a couple of things with it, and haven't had a single problem since then. I don't know why the 32 bit lib was installed, but removing it let the update proceed and

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-08-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 15 Aug 2022 14:44:43 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Aha! Now where do I change that? There is a user.conf file right next to the system.conf file in the /etc/systemd directory. It has almost all the same parameters, and I always change both files when changing something to make sure I

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-08-15 Thread Tom Horsley
Probably not helpful info, but I had dhcpd simply refuse to pay attention to the signal that was intended to make it cleanly shut down on a system at work several months ago. I even did enough debugging to verify the signal was in fact being delivered to the signal handler in the dhcpd process, but

Re: opinions: backups

2022-08-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 17:08:23 -0400 Bill Cunningham wrote: > Does anyone use any of these or other backups? My main backup is rsyncing everything to a big old NAS I put together from an old PC and truenas software. I use the --link-dest option to get a complete copy of everything on every backup (

Re: updatedb

2022-08-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 15:09:27 -0400 Charles Dennett wrote: > On my F36 system there is mlocate-updatedb rather than > plocate-updatedb. Maybe you did an upgrade from f35 instead of a clean install? plocate is the new default in f36. ___ users mailing lis

Re: updatedb

2022-08-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 15:31:43 +0200 Patrick Dupre wrote: > This what I have in > /usr/lib/systemd/system/plocate-updatedb.timer Looks just like mine. Unless the timer (or the service it runs) is disabled, it should be running. It touches a "stamp" file every time it runs: /var/lib/systemd/timers/s

Re: updatedb

2022-08-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 15:13:23 +0200 Patrick Dupre wrote: > updatedb is not run periodically. > > What should I do to have it run? > cron ? On my system it was automagically set up to run via: /usr/lib/systemd/system/plocate-updatedb.timer (and was very annoying because it always ran at the most

Re: 32-->36?

2022-08-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 06:04:14 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > The server is pretty simple. The only two > biggies are Samba and vsftp I suspect samba may cause problems. Somewhere in that time frame (I think) a major release of samba came along and they removed support for things they claime

Re: 32-->36?

2022-07-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 09:46:39 -0400 Go Canes wrote: > If you use a VM for the test-run > you could use snapshots I always install a new fedora on a VM then after I like it, rsync the VM to a disk partition, fix a few UUIDs and such in various config files, then boot to it using the grub "configfil

Re: 32-->36?

2022-07-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 16:50:57 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Can I jump directly, or do I have to go one or > two revisions at a time? My approach would be to start from scratch on a new disk (or at least a new partition) and install anything needed to get the same configuration working. (T

32 bit pam-libs?

2022-07-27 Thread Tom Horsley
For a few days now, I've been getting update errors because (apparently) the 32 bit pam isn't yet in the repos even though the 64 bit version is newer: Problem 1: pam-1.5.2-12.fc36.i686 has inferior architecture - cannot install both pam-1.5.2-13.fc36.x86_64 and pam-1.5.2-12.fc36.x86_64 - can

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 21:32:38 +0200 Roberto Ragusa wrote: > - grub hides itself and is difficult to interrupt Yea, I've got a "big hammer" script that runs automatically after dnf to beat on the grub.cfg file in case it just got written by the dnf update. It clobbers any place that sets timeout to

Re: Are there typical ways Fedora tends to break? part 2

2022-07-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 14:39:25 - Chris Murphy wrote: > Do you think a snapshot+rollback mechanism would be more or less useful than > a graphical rescue environment, for troubleshooting system problems? I think a snapshot system would only be helpful if I could utterly disable it. (I eventuall

sound device changed on me?

2022-07-26 Thread Tom Horsley
I was changing some udev rules last night and ran "udevadm trigger" (which I found on the internet to avoid a reboot). This morning trying to watch a video, I had no sound. For some reason my sound output had been set to SPDIF rather than the HDMI I always had it set to. Was that a "trigger" side

Re: Is there an officially Fedora supported replacement for the old rc.local? - still an issue

2022-07-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 23 Jul 2022 08:29:09 -0600 James Szinger wrote: > The IBM 3277 was released in 1971 and had arrow keys. If I'm recalling though, the IBM terminals were data entry things designed exclusively for form fill out. Entire screens had to be redrawn to change one character. (Or at least many of

Re: beat updatedb over the head?

2022-07-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 08:48:12 -0400 Ben Cotton wrote: > (If you're fine with it running at midnight, you can use OnCalendar=daily) So maybe if I just changed the "RandomizedDelaySec=12h" in the existing unit to something like "RandomizedDelaySec=2h" it would run some time between midnight and 2AM,

beat updatedb over the head?

2022-07-19 Thread Tom Horsley
The timer installed by plocate insists on running updatedb at maximally inconvenient times. I looked at the docs for systemd timers and my brain screamed at me: "I don't feel like thinking hard enough to get this right!" Anyone have an example of a systemd timer that runs at a specific time of day

Re: Is there an officially Fedora supported replacement for,> the old rc.local? - still an issue

2022-07-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 22:25:03 -0400 R. G. Newbury wrote: > This sleight-of-hand was posted by someone on an Arch distro > forum/mailing list. I do not have his name, but kudos and thanks whoever > you are. It works Those are my exact notes (and even comments) from when systemd started killing of

Re: Is there an officially Fedora supported replacement for the old rc.local? - still an issue

2022-07-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 22:50:03 +0200 Peter Boy wrote: > The programs I have to start depend on the existence of some (virtual) > network interfaces. Yea, when I was doing stuff with rc.local I had that problem as well. What I wound up doing was using the "at" command to start the scripts I really

Re: Is there an officially Fedora supported replacement for the old rc.local?

2022-07-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 10:38:03 -0700 Mike Wright wrote: > /etc/rc.local I think it is some more obscure location like /etc/rc.d/rc.local. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Is there an officially Fedora supported replacement for the old rc.local?

2022-07-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 18:00:30 +0200 Peter Boy wrote: > Any recommendations and/or experiences? Is it really gone, or are they simply not creating the rc.local file any longer? I'm pretty sure I remember it working the last time I used it, just had to make the file myself and make it executable. _

Re: Re Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 20:48:59 -0400 R. G. Newbury wrote: > And also reminds me why Linux can be considered a cult, as there are > arcane and unknown rules controlling how things work. I always say "Without google, linux itself would be impossible." ___

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 11:27:48 -0700 stan via users wrote: > I think the build system should have > automatic checks to determine that all dependent packages are being > rebuilt as part of a package build. I have suggested in the past that the repos should have an extra layer of checks before being

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 17:39:35 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Turns out that you do have to edit the standard > file(s) to have any effect. That has been true for so many things, I don't even bother to try out the "correct" way any longer. I just use my big hammer to fix things after every dnf

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 08:22:32 -0600 James Szinger wrote: > describes how to > customize grub After fighting with the "convenient" /etc/default/grub parameters for years to make grub do what I want, I finally gave up and now have a perl script that runs after any dnf update to hit the grub.cfg file

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 15:17:56 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > OK. Where is that configured (too lazy to look it up :-)? I made this chage: "DefaultTimeoutStopSec=5s" in both /etc/systemd/system.conf and /etc/systemd/user.conf ___ users mailing list --

Re: distorted audio from KVM guest

2022-07-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 20:30:18 +1000 Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > Anyone else sees (hears) this? The only VM I've ever tried to use audio with is my Windows 10 VM and audio has always been horrible, very scratchy and delayed start with beginnings of streams always cut off. _

Re: Long timeouts on logging out/shutting down

2022-07-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 23:27:21 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Is anyone else seeing this? Possibly not precisely the same, but I found that systemd "user demons" were continuing to run forever even when the user logged out, and on shutdown it would wait a long time on them before being willing

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 15:02:38 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > and the program I remember had a GUI. There is an lshw and an lshw-giu out there. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: A simple question

2022-07-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 16 Jul 2022 12:55:25 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > I'd appreciate it if somebody > could point me in the right direction Don't know if there is a tool to show everything, but lspci will give a lot of info about what is talking on the pci buses. Then there's /proc/cpuinfo and maybe other /proc

Re: are there typical ways Fedora tends to break?

2022-07-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 15 Jul 2022 14:41:09 -0400 Chris Murphy wrote: > Is the GRUB "rescue" menu entry ever useful in resolving problems? I've never had any use for it. I tend to boot off a USB stick if I want to investigate a problem independent of the current software. > failure patterns that you tend to se

Re: Virtualization Recommendations?

2022-07-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 22:31:44 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > try > figuring out how to share files between host and guest I just use the same technique I'd use for a "real" machine: NFS or SMB :-). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: tweak/startup application

2022-07-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 21:38:45 +0200 Patrick Dupre wrote: > What is going on? I often replace the app with a shell script that echoes stuff to a file so I can see if it was actually started and what various environment variables and path are set to. Of course, if the file isn't written, then it isn

Re: Virtualization Recommendations?

2022-07-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 17:29:58 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It's also the only game in town if you want to do GPU pass- > through. And if you need 3D graphics in your Windows VM, you have to do GPU pass through :-). (Unless various virtual 3D drivers for Windows have made progress I haven't n

Re: Virtualization Recommendations?

2022-07-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 09:38:36 -0600 Sbob wrote: > Are there others? The native linux qemu/libvirt stuff works fine for me. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: yet again, sound is a problem

2022-07-11 Thread Tom Horsley
I always wondered about that "reinstall the software" thing. I mean, how much should I trust software from someone who apparently is unable to just copy the software onto the disk? And even worse, it actually works sometimes. ___ users mailing list -- u

Re: Login screen users - hide - ?

2022-07-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 12:26:58 +0100 lejeczek via users wrote: > Is it possible to hide somehow a user from Login screen, so > such user/account would not show up in that list of users? Probably depends on the login manager. I use sddm and have this in /etc/sddm.conf # Comma-separated list of user

Re: akmods issue

2022-07-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 11:04:01 -0400 Lester Petrie wrote: > I need to wait long enough for > this to finish. I am currently still running Fedora 35. Is this not what > will happen with Fedora 36? That's what happens for me. The only difference is the log file moved, so if you "tail -f" to see when

Re: akmods issue

2022-07-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 08:07:10 -0400 Neal Becker wrote: > Any ideas? You can examine /var/log/akmods/akmods.log to see the progress of the driver build and make sure the build finished before rebooting. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: Bugzilla - when no "component" exist - ?

2022-06-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 15:36:58 +0100 lejeczek via users wrote: > I'm looking to file a BZ for R-core but there is no "R" nor "R-core" > neither in Fedora nor in EPEL. Do something like this: rpm -q -i -f /usr/bin/R-core The -i will report what source rpm was used to build it. That source rpm is

Re: Fedora 36 XFCE

2022-06-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 09:40:37 +0930 Tim via users wrote: > Dying batteries in the keyboard? I dimly recall an "accessibility" feature that emulate caps lock if you pressed the shift key a "long time". (Maybe it wasn't caps lock but some other helpful feature.) Drove me crazy because I have a tende

Re: System is locking up a lot

2022-06-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 27 Jun 2022 08:53:48 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > And I should add that the cursor still moves around but no response to > mouse clicks or keystrokes.  And video is frozen. Every time I install a new version of fedora, I give the nouveau drivers a chance to see if they have improved,

Re: Installing cuda on Fedora 36

2022-06-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 21:39:18 +0100 Paul Smith wrote: > Any ideas? Not really, I never actually installed it myself, I just noticed that rpmfusion had pointers to cuda stuff. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: Installing cuda on Fedora 36

2022-06-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 26 Jun 2022 21:23:20 +0100 Paul Smith wrote: > Could someone please direct me in the process of installing cuda? Simplest way is probably via rpmfusion: https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/CUDA?highlight=%28%5CbCategoryHowto%5Cb%29 ___ users mailing li

Re: recommendations, pros/cons for Fedora mail clients supporting OAUTH2 with GMail?

2022-06-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 14:50:36 -0400 George Avrunin wrote: > So I'm looking for other suggestions about what might work I've always used fetchmail to download all mail from all my accounts and stuff it in a local IMAP server for me to read with whatever client I like (currently using claws-mail and

updatedb.conf?

2022-06-11 Thread Tom Horsley
The plocate rpm appears to include an /etc/updatedb.conf file (shows up in rpm -q --list plocate). But my system doesn't have an /etc/updatedb.conf file, and judging from the backups, it has never had one on fedora36. Anyone on fedora 36 that does have an /etc/updatedb.conf file?

Re: F36: removing systemd-resolved breaks chrony

2022-06-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 15:55:53 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > this ends up creating /etc/resolv.conf as a plain file, rather than a > symlink. But, I suppose, that works too. Perhaps people who want their own damn resolv.conf file are missing this obscure setting: Try editing /etc/NetworkManager

Re: f36 - kernel update breaks resolv.conf

2022-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 31 May 2022 18:38:54 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > It keeps finding its way back on my systems, even after I uninstalled it Uninstalling is probably hopeless. I don't bother with uninstalling things like that, but disabling and masking them seems to work well, and that leaves all the fil

Re: Fedora 36 update vs broadcom-wl

2022-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 31 May 2022 11:51:49 -0400 (EDT) D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: > My guess is that this is a simple oversight in packaging. If so, it is an > RPMFusion problem, not a Fedora problem. Or maybe upgrade isn't equipped to deal with anything other than fedora repos? I never expect any 3rd party s

Re: F36: removing systemd-resolved breaks chrony

2022-05-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 28 May 2022 08:51:08 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > It seems that uninstalling systemd-resolved and repointing /etc/resolv.conf > ends up breaking chrony: The simplest fix is the also remove chrony and install ntp. ___ users mailing list -- us

Re: Trying to kickstart a KVM guest on F36

2022-05-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 May 2022 15:54:28 -0500 Thomas Cameron wrote: > No idea why that worked. I had bridges stop working because they disabled the code that would copy the MAC address from the physical interface attached to the bridge. Had to add a specific MAC address to the bridge definition (I forget h

Re: merging unused partitions

2022-05-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 22 May 2022 15:02:06 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > Do I have it right? Probably, but: I usually boot a live image and run gparted so I can use the less confusing GUI interface to get all the details right (may have to install gparted in the live image first). I'm not sure even single us

Who moved my akmods? :-)

2022-05-18 Thread Tom Horsley
Just FYI: For those who are used to doing a tail -f on /var/cache/akmods/akmods.log to figure out when drivers have finished building after a kernel update, it ain't there no more. I found it over in /var/log/akmods/akmods.log (which I have to admit makes more sense as a location for a log file).

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 17 May 2022 20:46:02 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Yes, and yes. And the lock-ups occur when the system is idle overnight and > does absolutely nothing whatsoever. That's the sort of thing that would make me want to run "journalctl -l -f" on an xterm remotely connected from another sys

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 16 May 2022 18:32:29 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I have a bootable flash drive with DOS 6.22 on it > for upgrading bios'es Supermicro's motherboards. At least with motherboards all the ones I've had in the last few years can update directly from a usb stick with no dos/windows/a

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 16 May 2022 18:30:10 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Are all your fans working? Frozen fans on video > cards are a YUGE cause of freeze ups. So is the nouveau driver :-(. I run nouveau on every new fedora install until the video and/or system locks up, then I install nvidia drivers

Re: Gigabyte: "we cannot offer full support on Linux"

2022-05-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 16 May 2022 18:17:53 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > For SSD Drive, I only recommend Samsung. They just > work. No drama. But if you need to update firmware on a samsung ssd you have to run their windows only utility (at least the last time I looked). _

Re: OT: problems with xsane

2022-05-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 15 May 2022 12:46:53 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > Any pointers? I was surprised to find my scanner working with xsane recently. Before it worked, I'd always run a windows virtual machine and forward the usb device to the VM so I could use the working windows drivers and store scanned ima

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 13 May 2022 18:54:03 + olivares33561 via users wrote: > yes using wayland. What do I have to do to get composing working? > I use right alt key. No idea if the user interface can do it, but I was having the same trouble with no way to remap mouse buttons, so I removed the problem by i

No "User Session" login option on f36

2022-05-13 Thread Tom Horsley
Just submitted this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2085487 I have the xorg-x11-xinit-session package installed. It creates a /usr/share/xsessions/xinit-compat.desktop file, but SDDM doesn't list "User Session" as a login option. Anyone know if the session file format changed a

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 13 May 2022 11:07:56 +0930 Tim via users wrote: > I just wish they put the damn lights next to their keys, so it's > obvious which was which. My laptop is even worse, it has them hidden > behind a grill, so they're almost invisible. My logitech MX keys keyboard has the indicator light bu

Re: First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 12 May 2022 07:50:31 -0700 Mike Wright wrote: > When I can't find what I need I don't even try to make my fingers work, I just look up special characters on the web and cut and paste them from the browser :-). (Obviously I don't need them a lot). __

Re: f36 ifcfg sub-package

2022-05-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 11 May 2022 18:05:30 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > However, Tom seems to be reporting that everything broke for him, until he > hunted down the package and manually installed it. Only because I installed from scratch then tried to copy all the config files like I usually do. (I like to

Re: f36 ifcfg sub-package

2022-05-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 11 May 2022 22:01:48 +0100 Barry wrote: > Yes there is a tool. See this article for details. > > https://fedoramagazine.org/converting-networkmanager-from-ifcfg-to-keyfiles/ Thanks. Once I think everything is working I'll give this a try and see if everything still works the same. __

f36 ifcfg sub-package

2022-05-11 Thread Tom Horsley
The description of changes to fedora says built in support for ifcfg files won't be installed by default but an "ifcfg sub-package" can be installed to support them. After peering at "dnf search" results I finally found the actual name of the sub-package: NetworkManager-initscripts-ifcfg-rh-1:1.3

First 5 minutes with f36

2022-05-11 Thread Tom Horsley
Installing in a virtual machine, the spinning worm doesn't spin. The progress bar moves, the install works, but there was apparently no point in the spinner at the left of the progress info. The first thing the intro to gnome 42 tells me is to use the "Super" key. There is no key labelled "Super".

Re: ssh impacted by systemd.resolved

2022-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 18:15:16 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > History is full of similar examples, of an established component getting > replaced by a lighter replacement: chrony supplanting ntp; cronie > supplanting vixie-cron. This certainly can happen again. But systemd-timedated tries to su

Re: ssh infested by systemd.resolved

2022-04-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 18:05:39 -0400 Jonathan Billings wrote: > Most likely it was trying to remove something from the session (such as a > mount) that wasn’t responding. The user daemon itself will terminate once > the session has been terminated. Not even close. No mounts, no resources used a

Re: ssh infested by systemd.resolved

2022-04-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 17:41:34 -0400 Jonathan Billings wrote: > The systemd --user daemon does hang around though, and it is likely it is > waiting on terminating some pesky user process that wasn’t terminating > properly. It isn’t the blocking process, it is the daemon trying to terminate > it.

Re: ssh infested by systemd.resolved

2022-04-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:45:41 -0400 Jonathan Billings wrote: > if you want it to, it will terminate all user processes *for that session* > when it logs out This only recently started working moderately well. If I ever ssh'ed into my desktop for a separate login session, systemd would create some

Re: Pipewire update reset audio devices AGAIN

2022-04-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 06:46:16 -0500 Richard Shaw wrote: > I'm not exactly sure what to report without the ability to reproduce. I ran > an update, and then rebooted. I opened Chrome and tried to play a youtube > video and noticed I didn't have any audio. About two or three times a year an update w

Re: wayland-info to 'invalid format' quest

2022-04-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 11:21:35 -0700 Jack Craig wrote: > hi all, > > i am trying to fathom what hung me out to dry trying to > evaluate resolution options for my F34/hdtv. See this bug I submitted about wayland not interpreting EDID correctly for an HD TV. Naturally it was closed (because I have

Re: Default browser

2022-04-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 10:01:37 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > New install of Fedora 35. Any time a link is opened -- say from a > terminal -- Firefox is opened. The default browser is set in "Default > Applications" to chrome. Is there another place where the default browser > is set? You could try

Re: ssh impacted by systemd.resolved

2022-04-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 23:43:36 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Help me out here: wasn't there a point of order made, way back when: hey, if > you want to disable systemd-resolved, just manually replace the > /etc/resolv.conf symlink? You also need to systemctl disable systemd-resolved (and proba

Re: ssh infested by systemd.resolved

2022-04-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 23:35:35 +0200 Bob Marcan wrote: > Better for users? Are you kidding? > All this systemd is reinventing the wheel. > Go back to Windows, when you grow up. Nah! It is the first computer fungus, slowly growing over all the rest of Linux. _

Re: OT: laptop SSD(?) makes screeching sounds

2022-04-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 10:25:41 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > However, while writing this email in mutt (which involves some IO), the fan > ended running, and the screeching is back and continues on even though the > fan does not appear to be running. Earlier in this thread didn't you (or someone)

Re: OT: laptop SSD(?) makes screeching sounds

2022-04-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 13 Apr 2022 15:56:20 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > Generally the only thing that could be screeching is the fan or maybe a > DVD drive. Can you listen to localize more specifically where the sound > is coming from? Seems like it would have to be moving parts like that. Or maybe there is

Re: Have one of 5 machines that no longer autoboots??

2022-03-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:37:43 +1000 Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > Any ideals? Was planning on upgrading machine to 35, > but with boot process acting up don't know. I had a lot of trouble with "helpful" logic in the grub scripts wanting to do a lot of nonsense based on info it stashed

Re: Fedora 35 new install no sound

2022-03-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 22:49:52 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Consider yourself lucky that you have to do it only on a new install. My > default audio device is broken after every reboot, and I have to reset it > every time. I sometimes have to do it again after some (but not all) updates. Neve

Re: Fedora 35 new install no sound

2022-03-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 18:08:09 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > I would > greatly appreciate some guidance. May not be relevant, but I've noticed on a new install, the default sound device is always the device I have nothing connected to. I always have to run the sound control center app and change th

Re: Fedora 35, Nvidia 510 and Wayland: no video

2022-03-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 03 Mar 2022 18:23:39 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Hmm. I don´t use Wayland so have nothing to add. I don't know what you are using to play the video, but if you install mplayer (from rpmfusion), it has a gazillion "VIDEO OUTPUT DRIVERS" (see that section in the man page). I suspect

Re: VM Setup

2022-02-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 00:21:30 -0500 Robert McBroom via users wrote: > With 4 processors and 2G response is atrocious. Make sure you are using proper virtual disk and network drivers. If you installed it with some sort of emulated IDE disk, it will definitely have the effect of making performance h

icon theme cleanup?

2022-02-26 Thread Tom Horsley
dnf update just took about 20 minutes at 100% cpu to get past the cleanup step in breeze-icon-theme, made it past a few more things rapidly, now is using 100% cpu in cleanup of oxygen-icon-theme. What on earth is it doing? I guess my system will be really really clean if it ever gets done :-). ___

Re: ssd keeps dying (OT)

2022-02-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 10:35:11 -0500 John Mellor wrote: > I finally threw the machine out Yep. I had a cursed computer that something different broke on every few days. I eventually dumped it in the recycle bin at the local electronics recycling place and built a whole new system. It was impossible

Re: DRPM performance ?

2022-02-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 10:24:29 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I didn't even know dnf had a colour (or color) option. It seems to be > off by default. Certainly wasn't off by default when strange colorful output started appearing in my terminal when running dnf. That's why I looked up how to mak

Re: Perl is now failing for me

2022-02-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 12:58:50 -0500 Fulko Hew wrote: > Can anyone suggest where to start? Run the command under strace to see what strange locations it is picking up perl or perl modules from. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: DRPM performance ?

2022-02-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 19 Feb 2022 08:23:02 -0600 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > I am curious, how does one turn off drpm? In /etc/dnf/dnf.conf add this line in [main] deltarpm=False It is in the dnf docs (surprisingly :-). Another good one is color=never Which keeps my terminal from looking like an explosion in

Re: [OT] need crontab help

2022-02-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 17:39:18 -0800 Mike Wright wrote: > Anybody explain why this doesn't do what I intend? Odds are good something in your login environment is required. DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS is one good candidate. Lots of linux tools don't directly do anything, but instead connect to DBUS to

Re: Kernel crash every day at 6:30am

2022-02-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 10:41:36 -0800 Gordon Messmer wrote: > bio_crypt_clone suggests something wrong in an encrypted block device.  > Maybe corrupt data that rsync traverses during the backup? Perhaps run the same rsync command with a -v option in a terminal and see if the crash happens on the sa

Re: keyboard dongle

2022-02-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 18:12:14 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Instead of rebooting, try powering off and back on. > Be interesting to see what happens Yep, I think I used to do that to fix it till I found that unplugging it was faster. ___ users ma

keyboard dongle

2022-02-11 Thread Tom Horsley
Just curious if others have this problem. Every so often, I'll do a kernel update and when I reboot, by wireless keyboard won't work. If I root around to find where the keyboard dongle is plugged in, remove it, then plug it back in, all works well again, but it is annoying to have to do this. Just

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