Re: Fool mouse with minecraft

2019-08-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 08:36:12 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So far, 8 months into ownership, I have not needed to clean the > trackball, but it is easy to take out. I've used these for years simply because I like them better, but after a long time (a few years at least) I see little crumbs of

What is this selinux gibberish from dnf update about?

2019-08-04 Thread Tom Horsley
Running scriptlet: mysql-selinux-1.0.0-8.fc30.noarch 62/287 Installing : mysql-selinux-1.0.0-8.fc30.noarch 62/287 Running scriptlet: mysql-selinux-1.0.0-8.fc30.noarch 62/287 libsemanage.semanage_direct_install_info: Overriding

Re: Iptables->Firewalld Upgrade: Really Necessary?

2019-07-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:20:35 -0400 Tim Evans wrote: > wondering if > I really, really need to figure out how to port my iptables ruleset to > work with firewalld Nope, not yet. Just disable every service that has firewall in the name systemctl list-unit-files | fgrep -i firewall Then enable

Re: tracer told me to systemctl restart dbus-broker - bad move

2019-07-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 19:03:15 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > sudo systemctl restart dbus-broker I suspect that's very similar to systemd itself crashing (which I have had happen once or twice). Once it can't talk everything goes to hell. I had to power off rather than a clean reboot when that

Re: What to do instead of using rc.local?

2019-07-10 Thread Tom Horsley
I don't know if it is the same problem, but a change to systemd made it impossible to put long running scripts in rc.local, which made me change my /etc/rc.c/rc.local file to look like: /usr/bin/at -M now <<'HERE' > /dev/null 2>&1 /etc/rc.d/the-real-rc.local HERE Then put everything I used to

Re: somethings gone wrong with last qt updates

2019-07-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 8 Jul 2019 13:22:52 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > I think there was another message recently about someone getting fonts > rendered white on white. I just submitted this bugzilla with pointers to the messages about white on white fonts: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1

Re: somethings gone wrong with last qt updates

2019-07-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 08 Jul 2019 12:22:34 - sixpack13 wrote: > all menue options in the output of the above command are gone and the upper > panel is nearly completey blank, without any font ! Yep, the keepassx tool is displaying all results in a white on white font. If I blindly navigate, I can use

Re: info files index generation on fedora 30 - how does the 'dir' file get generated?

2019-07-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 00:31:50 +0100 Ronaldo Mercado wrote: > Yesterday I noticed that the info files from /usr/share/info/*.info.gz > on my fedora 30 pc were missing. All the info files are there and in the directory on my f30 system, though I couldn't say where they came from. I haven't

sound device initialization?

2019-07-04 Thread Tom Horsley
Lately when I install updates and reboot, I'll randomly have no sound when I log back in. I'm supposed to get sound output on my HDMI interface (being run by the nvidia binary driver from rpmfusion). If I run "gnome-control-center sound", it will show as currently using a dummy device, and if I

Weird kex_exchange_identification log messages [SOLVED]

2019-06-30 Thread Tom Horsley
I keep getting these errors showing up in the log from sshd: error: kex_exchange_identification: banner line contains invalid characters I finally tracked them down and understand the nonsense that is happening: For historical reasons (having to do with butthead IT people at work deciding

Re: UDEV RULES

2019-06-30 Thread Tom Horsley
In general I have no ideas, but I do know that scripts executed in udev rules have to run "fast", or they are automatically killed off. You might want to consider having the script do something like: /usr/bin/at -M now <<'HERE' > /dev/null 2>&1 /full/path/to/do-the-backup/script HERE That will

Re: F30 - Firefox dying overnight

2019-06-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 13:05:03 +0100 John Pilkington wrote: > Out of memory Sounds like a memory leak to me, either in firefox itself or something else (the linux out of memory killer can get very indiscriminate when it decides to start killing things). I can easily imagine it is firefox with some

Re: Manually installed grub (no bls) doesn't update entries automatically on kernel install or removal.

2019-06-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 12:32:34 - Sergio Cipolla wrote: > Anybody knows anything about it? Can I set something so 'grub2-mkconfig -o > /boot/grub/grub.cfg' is called again automatically on kernel install or > removal? I'm guessing you may need grubby-deprecated described here:

Re: grub entry

2019-06-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 16:10:21 +0200 Patrick Dupre wrote: > On one machine, when booting and entering in grub menu to choice the OS, it > points on the 4th one > and not on the 1st one. No doubt the "default" boot is set in the grub environment file. Investigate the grub2-editenv tool to list and

Re: Method to create local font server so that browser gets fonts from locally installed fonts.

2019-06-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 10:19:33 -0700 stan via users wrote: > Is there such a thing already in Fedora? If you can find the actual name of the web font, most of them can be downloaded and installed locally, just like any other font from places like https://fonts.google.com/ (they aren't packaged in

Re: Email Client

2019-06-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:13:30 -0400 Doug McGarrett wrote: > I find that it is difficult if not impossible > to make Thunderbird mark every > incidence of mail from a particular address as junk and reject it. This sort of thing is why I now go to the totally insane trouble of using fetchmail to

Re: Email Client

2019-06-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 18:49:29 -0400 Ted Roche wrote: > Mozilla says they are blowing smoke: > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1044903 I agree. I enable pop and imap so I can use fetchmail and I just ignore all the warnings google sends me every so often. I suppose I'd be willing to

Re: Default application for some file typeHi

2019-06-08 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 19:45:09 +0200 Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi guys, > > how to define the default application for opening files with some type > in F30, for example the app for opening PDF files (acroread or evince > are examples)? I wrote this up a while back, possibly there is still relevant

Re: 5.1 kernel and 32 bit executables?

2019-06-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 06 Jun 2019 18:53:01 +0200 Louis Lagendijk wrote: > Are this files in a.out format? 5.1 removes support for a.out: > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=Linux-Dropping-A.Out Nah. I think they are calling a system service that didn't exist (which they were prepared to

Re: 5.1 kernel and 32 bit executables?

2019-06-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 08:19:17 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > (When I get a chance I'll boot the old kernel and > make sure it still works and this isn't something > different than I suspect). Yep, the tests run correctly with the 5.0.17 kernel booted. The programs were only linked 16

5.1 kernel and 32 bit executables?

2019-06-06 Thread Tom Horsley
I have some very, very old (ancient, in fact) 32 bit statically linked executables run as part of a testbed. With the new 5.1.6-300.fc30.x86_64 kernel installed this morning, they are all failing because the programs are confused by something in the initial code before they even get to the main

Re: a stop job.... systemd again and again....

2019-06-05 Thread Tom Horsley
I never had that error, but I had other rc.local problems which led me to do this: /etc/rc.d/rc.local just looks like: /usr/bin/at -M now <<'HERE' > /dev/null 2>&1 /etc/rc.d/the-real-rc.local HERE touch /var/lock/subsys/local Then /etc/rc.d/the-real-rc.local has all the stuff I used to put in

what the devil does this log message mean?

2019-06-05 Thread Tom Horsley
Jun 4 08:19:35 tomh sshd[13944]: pam_systemd(sshd:session): Failed to create session: Start job for unit 'session-12186.scope' failed with 'dependency' These occur at somewhat random intervals with no obvious correlation with anything I've done. ___

Re: Iso on USB

2019-06-04 Thread Tom Horsley
I use a completely different way to boot from USB. I followed (mostly) the instructions here (and things it points at) and have a bootable USB stick which contains several ISO images and can boot them from grub: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multiboot_USB_drive

Re: Fedora 30 and problem with monitor resolution detection in gdm/Gnome?

2019-06-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 22:12:06 +0100 Barry wrote: > > As near as I can tell, wayland and X treat EDID differently. > > I though that the handling was the same, its in the kernel mode setting. I would have thought that, but with nouveau and wayland I get visible data on the screen, but a wacky

Re: Fedora 30 and problem with monitor resolution detection in gdm/Gnome?

2019-06-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 2 Jun 2019 11:05:23 +0100 Barry Scott wrote: > That's the problem - bad EDID. As near as I can tell, wayland and X treat EDID differently. Also nouveau and nvidia treat it differently. I only get proper native resolution with nvidia and X getting EDID from my LG OLED B6P TV.

Re: google-chrome weirdness

2019-06-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 1 Jun 2019 20:38:31 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > So who knows where besides ~/.config/google-chrome > google-chrome will get information? Because something > about my user screws it up even when I try to start > from scratch with no saved profile. Amazing! I actually found i

google-chrome weirdness

2019-06-01 Thread Tom Horsley
Google-chrome has started rendering the "Oswald" web font with all the characters in a string mostly on top of one another, but only for my user. See: https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Oswald If I create a completely new user, log out and log back in as new user, google-chrome works. That web

Re: Why Must I Do "dnf clean all" Before Updating Will Proceed?

2019-05-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 May 2019 16:32:22 -0400 Garry Williams wrote: > On most occasions I have to clean files before I am allowed to update > a Fedora 30 system: dnf seems to have convinced itself that the cache is perfectly up to date no matter how old it is. I now always do the two command sequence:

Re: Anyone ever heard of just USB 3 dying?

2019-05-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 16 May 2019 10:05:09 -0400 Fred Smith wrote: > curious to hear what happens if you plug one of those devices into > a USB2 port? I did find one that wasn't in use, and in the usb 2 port it sees the USB stick with no problems, so I may indeed have a dead usb 3 chip on my motherboard. (it

Anyone ever heard of just USB 3 dying?

2019-05-16 Thread Tom Horsley
Any USB 3 stick I plug into my computer gets recognized as a USB storage device, then immediately starts getting errors such as: [ 1418.060792] usb 1-1.5: reset high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-pci [ 1423.169910] usb 1-1.5: device descriptor read/64, error -110 [ 1439.042249] usb 1-1.5:

Re: why the long pause after bash "command not found"?

2019-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 14 May 2019 18:11:45 -0400 DJ Delorie wrote: > Try removing PackageKit-command-not-found if you don't want that > "feature". On my list to remove even before I first boot a newly installed fedora (from a chroot into the fedora partition). bash-completion and environment-modules are two

Re: really deep sleep mode?

2019-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 14 May 2019 07:21:16 -0700 Gordon Messmer wrote: > I'd venture a guess that it's more likely the video driver locking up.  > Use "journalctl" to get the logs from one of the failed periods and see > if there are any "kernel" log messages from that boot. Nothing in the logs that appears

Re: really deep sleep mode?

2019-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 14 May 2019 13:15:13 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Presumably you tried 'systemctl status sddm' > and 'strace -p '? Not yet. I'm usually in a hurry to do something useful rather than spend time investigating :-), so I thought I'd ask here first. I did look at the old Xorg log, and

really deep sleep mode?

2019-05-14 Thread Tom Horsley
Is there some sort of ultra deep sleep mode sddm goes into if it has been unused for a while? No power on earth seems to be able to get any signal to appear on my monitor after I have let the system sit for a long weekend. Moving the mouse, tapping the spacebar, nothing works. I've had to ssh

Re: Fedora 30 and problem with monitor resolution detection in gdm/Gnome?

2019-05-12 Thread Tom Horsley
I have similar problems with using my LG OLEDB6P 4K TV as a monitor. The nouveau driver seems to be confused by the EDID information. Using X it picks some resolution the monitor can't even display (invalid signal on monitor), using wayland I thought it worked, but when I examined the details it

Curious sshd log messages about kex exchange

2019-05-12 Thread Tom Horsley
Any theories about the origin of these messages on my home system? I suspect it has something to do with my system at work trying to ssh into my system at home while my system at home is in the process of rebooting. At least that seems to be the time frame they show up. If my home system is

Re: F30 - KDE on nouveau driver freezes at login

2019-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 06 May 2019 14:00:39 -0500 Rex Dieter wrote: > Interestingly, f30 is the first release to work reliably with nouveau (on my > hybrid intel/nouveau laptop, all prior releases I had to blacklist nouveau > to get anything remotely working). Nouveau works for me when running wayland, as

get -m32 flag to work in gcc?

2019-05-05 Thread Tom Horsley
Just wondering what the minimal packages are I need to install to be able to build 32 bit programs in 64 bit fedora 30. Is glibc-devel.i686 the only one, or are other bits and pieces required? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: A stop job is running for Entropy Gatherer Daemon? Really?

2019-05-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 4 May 2019 22:12:11 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > Because systemd has no way of knowing what the service is doing or that > it's safe to kill it without waiting for it to finish. But the service knows that. Why isn't there a way to tell systemd that in the .service file?

Re: A stop job is running for Entropy Gatherer Daemon? Really?

2019-05-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 4 May 2019 18:58:32 -0700 Gordon Messmer wrote: > We don't need tortured logic to blame systemd.  It's doing the right > thing. Though a sane person might ask, "Why is it the right thing to wait for a service gathering information which will be utterly discarded on the reboot anyway?"

Re: A stop job is running for Entropy Gatherer Daemon? Really?

2019-05-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 04 May 2019 12:32:59 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Maybe 1 in every 20 if my reboots gets held up for "stopping user processes". That happens to me so often that I built an entire big hammer from scratch just to hit the system with when I reboot: https://tomhorsley.com/game/punch.html

Re: A stop job is running for Entropy Gatherer Daemon? Really?

2019-05-04 Thread Tom Horsley
I guess this is probably this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1690364 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

A stop job is running for Entropy Gatherer Daemon? Really?

2019-05-04 Thread Tom Horsley
I'm frequently rebooting my new fedora 30 install as I test things, and on one reboot I got the entire boot process held up by a stop job for rngd.service. I'm rebooting for God's sake. Why do you need to stop the reboot process to wait till you've gathered enough entropy which will be thrown

Re: how to always get menu in grub?

2019-05-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 03 May 2019 23:30:29 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > In F29 and before, apparently all that's needed is > > GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 > > in /etc/default/grub Right. Every customization is located in /etc/default/grub until now :-(. I did go through the grub2 info file and read all the

how to always get menu in grub?

2019-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
I could spend the rest of the weekend trying to follow the "logic" in all of the /etc/grub.d files, or maybe I could ask and find someone who already knows: How the devil do I make grub on fedora 30 *always* show the damn menu and *always* timeout for 5 seconds? (Instead of trying to be "helpful"

fedora 30 kdm busted?

2019-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
I tried switching from gdm to kdm and the kdm "login" came up as nothing but an apparent password entry field in the top left corner of the screen (at least all it did was echo dots when I typed in it). Switched to xdm, and that works much better. ___

Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 02 May 2019 20:39:34 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > TCP erropt = ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified. > > Nope, several minutes of staring and I don't get it. I've never been an > IBMer though. That's the point. Their "explanation" in the messages and code manual was laughable

Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
Looking at services on fedora 30 I didn't recognize from fedora 29, I did an rpm -q -i to tell me about the new tpm2-abrmd.service: tpm2-abrmd is a system daemon implementing the TPM2 access broker (TAB) and Resource Manager (RM) spec from the TCG. I haven't had such a laugh since my old IBM 360

rpmfusion nvidia drivers and BLS?

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
I have theoretically disabled the BLS stuff (so I can boot fedora 30 with the configfile command from an older grub that knows nothing of the BLS support in the configfile). This worked, but now I wonder about the state of the rpmfusion nvidia drivers and what they can deal with when changing

systemd scriptlet error?

2019-05-01 Thread Tom Horsley
My very first update on my newly installed fedora 30 workstation: Running scriptlet: systemd-241-8.git9ef65cb.fc30.x86_64 284/284 warning: %triggerin(systemd-241-8.git9ef65cb.fc30.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 65 Error in scriptlet in rpm package systemd I can only hope

Re: x11 and the mouse

2019-04-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 20:08:51 -0500 Roger Heflin wrote: > xinput seems to be interfacing with libinput and is reporting there > are devices and the devices have properties. > > It it is not clear though which properties work and don't work in it And unless they have improved it since it first

Re: Feature request: pre-tweaking

2019-04-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 09:07:24 +1000 Cameron Simpson wrote: > Is there an advantage to doing this with a mount? I used a symlink for a while till various programs started refusing to work with /home a symlink because the security geeks had decided something dodgy must be going on. If the same

Re: Feature request: pre-tweaking

2019-04-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:07:37 +1200 Seth Kenlon wrote: > > > * reboot * rsync my backed-up home dir to my new home dir location. My technique is to have home on a separate disk and just change /home in the install partition to a bind mount of home from the other disk (rename the installed /home

x2go trivia question

2019-04-16 Thread Tom Horsley
Sometimes when I run x2go, the remote desktop window will come up with a name for itself like: X2GO-tweety-50-1555418435_stD.x2goinit_dp24 Other times it will come up with a name like: x2go-tomh Anyone have any idea why it sometimes chooses one and sometimes the other (like I said, just

Re: Feature request: pre-tweaking

2019-04-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 22:33:08 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > so are you flipping between two > partitions on each new install Correct. I have a 64G SSD drive with two partitions for two versions of fedora, and I flip between them for each install (and can refer back to the old one if I find

Re: Feature request: pre-tweaking

2019-04-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:22:29 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I keep thinking that maybe I should reinstall just to get > rid of random cruft, but can never be bothered to do it. I always reinstall for that very reason. Plus I've worked out a great way to do it: Install a virtual machine,

Re: What is "org.freedesktop.UDisks2"

2019-04-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 21:22:39 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Oh, just the small inconvenience of plugging in my MP3 and not having it > automount, any more. I hate stuff automounting in random locations I don't know. I turn off all that stuff and use my "mountie" program to mount things I want

Re: Fedora Virtualization (quemu/kvm) vs Virtualbox

2019-04-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 13:20:05 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > what specifically is the > slowdown? From my highly non-scientific and inexact testing, the virtual disks have better I/O performance in virtualbox and in vmware. Since qemu has 47 gazillion different format virtual disks, I have no idea

Re: Fedora Virtualization (quemu/kvm) vs Virtualbox

2019-04-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 09 Apr 2019 16:51:29 +0200 Dario Lesca wrote: > is this correct ? or I must install also other drivers? That looks like all the ones I have, so you probably do have about as good performance as you are likely to get (as far as I know anyway, lots of people probably know more about qemu

Re: Fedora Virtualization (quemu/kvm) vs Virtualbox

2019-04-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 09 Apr 2019 13:51:27 +0200 Dario Lesca wrote: > There is some other solution to optimize qemu/kvm on Fedora to increase > the performance for win10 VM? You should certainly install all the redhat virtual drivers for disks and network if you haven't already:

Re: smartmontools issue

2019-04-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 09:14:28 +1000 Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: > Write SCT (Get) Feature Control Command failed: scsi error badly formed scsi > parameters I have certainly had disk drives that had defective SMART firmware. You might want to check and see if segate has a firmware update available for

Re: qemu goes to 100%?

2019-04-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 00:05:01 +0200 Marko Vojinovic wrote: > So you may want to take a look at all the screenlocking... That, at least, I'm sure I already have turned off. I turn off all that junk in all my virtual machines because I hate them blanking out on me. My physical screen is the only one

qemu goes to 100%?

2019-04-06 Thread Tom Horsley
Here's a weird one I just noticed: I've been using a Windows 10 virtual machine to run my tax software. I've got it displayed in virt-viewer and all is well, then I close the virt-viewer window and leave the KVM running. About 5 minutes later I see a cpu suddenly pegged at 100%. I run top and see

Re: sane : how to remove old scanners ?

2019-04-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 12:51:05 -0400 sean darcy wrote: > Any other suggestions ? You could run the command under strace -e trace=%file to see what files it opens (which doesn't help if it is talking to the gconf server or something like that). ___ users

Re: Need a statement on Fedora's purpose

2019-04-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 11:40:26 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I have several bug reports on RHEL that > are over five years old. That does not happen with Fedora. Sure about that? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562 (11 years old now :-).

Re: Need a statement on Fedora's purpose

2019-03-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 01 Apr 2019 10:11:47 +1030 Tim via users wrote: > In that case, then Fedora is a useful debugging tool that helps them > predict the changes that they'll need to make for their product > continue to work with RHEL, CentOS, etc. That is absolutely the reason I run fedora on my desktop at

Re: emacs CC mode package

2019-03-24 Thread Tom Horsley
I think everything is all packaged up in emacs-common (why emacs gets everything packaged in one giant package and perl and python have everything split out, I don't know). I see this in: rpm -q --list emacs-common ... /usr/share/emacs/26.1/lisp/progmodes/cc-align.el.gz

Re: OT: using MS Graph to retrieve e-mail from Office 365 and deliver to linux MTA on F29

2019-03-21 Thread Tom Horsley
I can't for the life of me tell: Is Office 365 "multifactor authentication" the same as OAUTH2? I've been trying to find a fetchmail-like thing that supports OAUTH2 so google will stop badgering me about using an insecure access, and there is a python thing called "getmail" which, in theory, has

Re: updated fedora 28 and lost unicode characters

2019-03-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 08:55:24 -0700 stan via users wrote: > I'll keep an eye out, and if I run into a web page that shows the > problem, I'll post it here so experts like you can possibly track down > what is happening. From time to time I've seen web pages where the headers claimed UTF-8

OT: fetchmail config

2019-03-08 Thread Tom Horsley
Anyone know if there is a relatively simple way to "fetchall" mail from one IMAP folder and "keep" mail from a different folder without making two completely separate "poll" entries for the same imap server in my ~/.fetchmailrc file (basically treating the same server like two separate servers).

Re: fc29 openssh : can't disable StrictHostKeyChecking

2019-02-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 09:24:53 -0500 sean darcy wrote: > any help appreciated I gave up trying to deal with these issues because our lab at work is full of machines being re-genned every few weeks, so I wrote a little perl script I could run before ssh to update the ~/.ssh/known_hosts file by

Re: flatpak log entries?

2019-02-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:48:33 -0500 Garry Williams wrote: > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:34 PM Brian Truter wrote: > > It seems to me that systemd (journald) really generates more useless spam > > like this than it produces useful log information > > The log message quoted below was "generated"

more systemd brilliance

2019-02-08 Thread Tom Horsley
Sometime recently systemd has decided to shutdown the network interfaces before it unmounts all the NFS filesystems, thus resulting in about a 5 minute timeout on reboot. I've now added code to my pre-reboot script to umount -l and umount -f every nfs filesystem prior to really rebooting, and I

Re: After an update, VM's no longer have Internet access - SOLVED

2019-02-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 2 Feb 2019 21:50:55 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > If you'd made no changes why then did the > problem arise? There are some things man was not meant to know :-). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

flatpak log entries?

2019-01-31 Thread Tom Horsley
Why do I have 47 bazillion lines of this sort of stuff in my logs: Jan 30 19:55:13 tomh polkitd[1151]: Registered Authentication Agent for unix-process:4457:4527106 (system bus name :1.3718 [flatpak --installations], object path /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale

Re: Terminal Badness

2019-01-18 Thread Tom Horsley
> I'm running Mate with a Mate-terminal; I update almost every day, > and reboot within a day or two of any change in the kernel. I just tried mate-terminal under my FVWM session and had no problem closing individual tabs by clicking on the x.

Re: what hath systemd wroght?

2019-01-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 10:01:33 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > So it looks like systemd is just sometimes speechless (which would > explain the systemctl commands hanging as well). I just did a dnf downgrade systemd to arrive at these old versions: systemd-239-3.fc29.x86_64 systemd-libs-239-

Re: what hath systemd wroght?

2019-01-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:31:36 +1100 Cameron Simpson wrote: > ISTR that the TCP connection timeout is about 30s. Can you "netstat > -anp | grep SYN" during the delay and see if somethings trying a > TCP connection to something now answering? That didn't detect anything, so I used the big hammer of

Re: what hath systemd wroght?

2019-01-16 Thread Tom Horsley
If I turn on ssh -vvv debugging, it hangs after this output: Authenticated to tomh ([10.134.30.143]:22). debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] debug3: ssh_session2_open: channel_new: 0 debug2: channel 0: send open debug3: send packet: type 90 debug1: Requesting no-more-sessi...@openssh.com

Re: what hath systemd wroght?

2019-01-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 09:29:07 +1100 Cameron Simpson wrote: > Just to confirm: the NIS user hasn't got a local /etc/passwd entry? Definitely no local /etc/passwd entry. > Anyway, installing nscd is trivial and I would be interested to know if > it changes the behaviour for you. Nope, same

what hath systemd wroght?

2019-01-16 Thread Tom Horsley
Suddenly (probably after installing systemd updates this morning) it takes 30 seconds or so for an NIS user to login via ssh and I see this nonsense show up in the log: Jan 16 14:53:33 tomh systemd-logind[811]: New session 11 of user tom. Jan 16 14:53:33 tomh systemd[1]: Failed to mount

Re: Smallest Fedora box to use as gateway/firewall/VPN

2019-01-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 13:43:11 -0500 John Harris wrote: > Fedora is always in a stable > condition at release. I can't count the number of times moving to the next fedora release has broken stuff requiring me to fall back on the old version till things get fixed. Every fedora new release always

Re: Smallest Fedora box to use as gateway/firewall/VPN

2019-01-08 Thread Tom Horsley
Intel sells boxes they call NUCs. I'm running fedora on one at home seems to work fine (as a media PC). Asus makes similar sized bookshelf systems. A lot of them come with Windows forced down your throat, I got a NUC without memory or disk and added my own. Lookup mini PC on amazon for a vast

Re: Fonts gone crazy?

2019-01-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 10:13:36 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > Anyone have any clue what might be going on here? Who is lying to whom > about the fonts? I seem to have tracked this down to the new terminus fonts: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1664054 doing a dnf downgrade on them

Fonts gone crazy?

2019-01-07 Thread Tom Horsley
I've got an old system, unmodified for years. I run emacs 21.2.1 on it using ssh X forwarding to put the emacs window on my desktop. I've just done an update of my fedora 29 system after being away for a couple of weeks, and now the fonts are all messed up. I'm never absolutely sure about these

Re: Dovecot

2018-12-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 12:04:14 -0600 Mike Chambers wrote: > Any ideas if that makese any sense? LOL Well, in my /etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-mail.conf I have mail_location set like this: mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir Which stashes mail in my home directory where I recover it when I gen a new OS

Re: xorg problems

2018-12-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 11:39:09 -0500 Frank McCormick wrote: > I know when I put an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11,  X refused to > > start and I was left with a blank screen. You can put fragments of an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, to just override a few defaults, but I have no idea what

Re: xorg problems

2018-12-21 Thread Tom Horsley
> Is there a work around. I see this bug claims it is related to the PageFlip option which is enabled by default. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/68 Presumably if you disable PageFlip, the spamming would stop (and it is probably OK to disable since it isn't working anyway

Re: problems creating a new user

2018-12-20 Thread Tom Horsley
Are you using the nvidia binary drivers? On my system at work attempting to exit X (which logging out apparently does) sometimes seems to crash my system (perhaps 10% of the time). I stick with nvidia though because the nouveau drivers crash in the middle of sessions, not waiting for me to log out

Re: background process

2018-12-20 Thread Tom Horsley
Or if you want something lighter weight, you could use the bg-dammit program from my web page: https://tomhorsley.com/game/Mjolnir.html It is similar to nohup, but it really really backgrounds things. ___ users mailing list --

Re: unwanted checks for updates.

2018-12-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:13:45 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > This turns off the automatic checking and downloading of updates by > Gnome Software and any other PackageKit based system. But there is also > a cron job for dnf that updates the metadata regularly (daily?). If > that's a concern for

Re: OT: Fedora Interactive boot option...

2018-12-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 02:45:33 +1000 Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > Long ago Redhat and early Fedora versions had the option of pressing the > letter i at boot to have it request for loading of the individual kernel > options. Can't help you, but I do remember kernels that would mention pressing

Re: cups browser interface changes?

2018-12-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 06 Dec 2018 17:42:22 +0100 AV wrote: > Didn't there use to be a 'delete printer' option in the > 'Administration' drop down menu. Depends on which Administration menu you are looking at :-). I just checked on my system, and there is a front page Administration item which includes

Re: Evince has no print option -

2018-12-04 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 04 Dec 2018 19:53:27 +0100 Louis Lagendijk wrote: > Printing is there in the menu on the right: it is the leftmost icon in > the top row I think they held a contest to see who could come up with a design to most effectively hide the controls for evince. Took me about 20 minutes to

Anyone else have occasional nvidia crashes?

2018-12-04 Thread Tom Horsley
I have a GeForce GTX 750 Ti in my system at work, using the rpmfusion nvidia drivers (because nouveau can't go more than a few hours without crashing). Every so often, when the X server starts or is restarted by logging out, the screen will go blank and the system will be frozen, needing a power

Re: ssh between el7 and fc28 boxes

2018-12-03 Thread Tom Horsley
ssh -v -v -v user@remote Is often a good command to use. It tells you everything it is trying so you can see what all it failed on. I've never had any problems with CentOS 7 and new fedora systems though. They talk to each other just fine for me. Some very very old systems are trying to use

Re: Changing mount options without restarting

2018-11-30 Thread Tom Horsley
I have often see cases where servers apparently got mad at specific systems and started refusing to allow them to mount (even though there were valid export entries for them). I have fixed this by restarting nfs on the server side. ___ users mailing list

Re: OT: Xtra-PC?

2018-11-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 08:57:53 -0500 Tim Evans wrote: > Anyone tried it? Worth $35? Looks like it is just a USB stick with bootable linux on it. You can make one for lots less than $35 with a linux live image file copied to USB. And the reason old laptops are dying is usually because the screen

Re: what is wrong with dnf?

2018-11-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 09:05:53 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > [egreshko@meimei ~]$ sudo dnf --refresh upgrade But that wastes time re-downloading all the repos, not just the update repos (which are presumably the only ones that might have changed). I'd hope makecache pays attention to the

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