On 7/24/24 5:20 PM, John Horne via users wrote:
On Wed, 2024-07-24 at 14:08 -0600, home user via users wrote:
On 7/24/24 9:40 AM, Joe Wulf via users wrote:
1. Look through the output of 'sudo dmesg' or just 'dmesg' when logged in
as root. Another option is to review '/var/log/boot.log
copy first).
R,
-Joe
On Wednesday, July 24, 2024 at 11:16:21 AM EDT, home user via users
wrote:
(f39 workstation; 6.9.9-100.fc39.x86_64)
Since last patching my stand-alone workstation last Thursday (July 18), I've been seeing messages
during boot that are colored some strange color between gree
(f39 workstation; 6.9.9-100.fc39.x86_64)
Since last patching my stand-alone workstation last Thursday (July 18), I've been seeing messages
during boot that are colored some strange color between green and blue (I'm calling it
"teal"). Other boot message text is gray. I don't recall seeing
I've submitted Mozilla bug #1570092 to deal with this problem.
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> After dealing with some alleged "tech support,"
> sometimes you want to reboot the person.
H
I could read that in more than one way!
:}
Modem reboots/resets are a pain. Gotta hold a teeny, recessed button in
for 30+ seconds; or unplug the modem, remove the battery, put the
battery
> You have the nvidia drivers installed from, probably, rpmfusion. ...
I understand. Thank-you, Ed.
Bill.
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> I assume that the
> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/IUlWCabjTPra7laQna9xHg
> log is unfiltered.
correct.
> I presume that you did a reboot, soon after.
When I do my weekly "dnf upgrade", I am logged in as root, and the only
things that I explicitly have running are xeyes, ksysguard,
Good morning,
(responding to Samuel and Fred)
Ctrl-Alt-F2 and Ctrl-Alt-F3 both work. From there I am able to kill
Firefox. That seems brings the system load back to typical.
Alt-F1 returns me to the Gnome graphical session. The others do not.
(responding to Ed)
> If the issue did surface
(replying to all responders)
Actually, the first thing that catches my attention is that when I go to
the password entry box, the system fans really surge. This suggests to
me the CPUs are working at or near capacity.
I also see top and ksysguard repeatedly freezing for several seconds.
(f29; gnome; Firefox 68.0; all patched late this morning)
While trying to sign on to a financial institution's web site, when I
start to enter the password, the cpu suddenly gets extremely busy and
stays that way. I had to hit the power button. Upon booting up again,
I launched ksysguard,
(responding to Samuel, George, and Tim)
> If you're not sure and it's important, then try contacting
> them to verify it. Use an alternate method if possible.
That's how the message that triggered this thread was ultimately solved.
But sometimes that's not available. I have several foreign
Thank-you, Tim, for the follow-up.
> > 'If that line says the "from" is reasonable,
> > look at the lines up to and inclucing the
> > next Received: line and loop, otherwise
> > stop, it's spam.'
> I think he means:
> 1. Look at the lines up to and including the next received line.
> 2. Repeat
Good evening,
(jdow asked)
> Do the "Reply-To:" and "From:" headers make sense
> when considered together?
They match.
>Does the "From:" make sense considering the contents.
Yes. Likewise the subject. But the info in those parts could have been
obtained from social networking sites.
(Tony Nelson said)
> [snip]
>
> Look at the message header. (View Source is a good way,
> as it will be exact.) The first Received: line and any
> lines before it come from your email provider, who is
> mostly to be trusted, though anyone can make mistakes.
> If that line says the "from" is
I just received a message from
[sender]@gmail.com
but the last line in the message is a bluish line saying
"Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android"
I do know someone named [sender] but the from address is not what I have
for that person, though the sender could have gotten a new e-mail
address
The instructions provided by S. Bob worked.
The zoom web site does provide a quick, partial test. I did it, and the
install passed. A full test awaits the next zoom meeting with the
charity I help. That should be late this month.
I'm marking this thread SOLVED. My thanks to all who tried
(responding to Samuel)
My 2 follow-up questions were so I could learn.
> It wouldn't use it silently. Did you import the key using rpm? ...
I downloaded the 2 files and did the "dnf install". That's all. It
worked. So this...
> Or maybe dnf doesn't enforce the signing check
> when
(responding to Samuel's Monday post)
Before I saw your post, I had successfully installed Zoom using the
instructions provided by S. Bob. But I thank you for trying to help.
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Good morning,
(f-29)
(background)
Last week, I was to participate in a "Zoom" meeting for a charity that
I'm involved in. I have the needed software on my rarely-used windows-7
box. But I could not complete the windows-7 login (some problem with a
windows-7 service). I've since found
In the "Toolbox - Tool Options", with the rectangle selected,
* change the "Position:" values to move the rectangle to the desired
location; and
* change the "Size:" values to make the rectangle the desired size.
Both of these also provide a way of specifying units.
You can also drag the
(Dave said)
> for me I start evince then pull down the help menu
> and then click on help then scroll down to interactive forms
> and click on "forms"
(Fred said)
> Hmm. I see. Try that left-most item in the top bar and see if
> it gives you a menu that includes "Help". screenshot attached.
(Fred said)
> Open your document, then in the toolbar (probably wrong name,
> its the bar at the top of the evince window) where the 3 window
> controls are at the right, all the way to the left is a red
> script "e". click on that, choose "help".
I ran
"bash.5[~]: evince
(responding to Fred)
Thank-you, Fred.
I tried "man evince". I got nothing like what's in your post.
I could find nothing in the GUI for getting any kind of help.
I searched for a web site for evince, and found this one:
"https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince;.
But this site had no user's guide,
(responding to 4 posts)
Thank-you, everyone, for trying to help.
(Samuel)
> I think it's acrobat reader.
That was enough to look it up. It is available for windows-7 (but not
Linux); it is free; but patching/updating is not user-controllable. I
don't know if it allows the user to fill in
(Samuel said)
> It's likely the new proprietary Adobe form. If that's the case,
> you can only use the Adobe app on Windows, or possibly Mac or
> Android.
Thank-you, Samuel.
Oh, one of thoose files.
It it available for windows-7?
Is it free?
I used to have acroread? reader? on my windows box.
(responding to Joe, Samuel, and Joe)
Thank-you, Joe and Samuel.
>>> Try clicking on the T on the toolbar, to put it into Text mode.
>> Isn't that just writing text over top of the pdf content?
>> It's not filling in the forms.
> Yes, but most of the forms I've needed to fill out haven't
(Joe Zeff said)
> Try xournal.
Installed it.
Tried it.
Displays the document/form, but does not seem to provide functionality
to fill it in.
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(Fred Smith said)
> evince
Thank-you, Fred.
h
--
-bash.3[~]: dnf install evince
Last metadata expiration check: 0:52:01 ago on Wed 05 Jun 2019 07:15:38
PM MDT.
Package evince-3.30.2-2.fc29.x86_64 is already installed.
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!
-bash.4[~]:
(f29)
I need something, preferably from one of the usual repos (so I can
easily install it with dnf), that I can use to fill in a pdf form. I
can view the form just fine, but nothing seems to have functionality for
me to fill it in. I did not see anything in "dnfdragora".
(responding to sixpack13)
> there are errors mostly regarding ACPI, but it doesn't seems
> to me that the box has difficulties to run.
Agreed. I used to see those (or something similar) every time I booted.
I haven't seen such messages in a while now.
> as I thought kmod-nvidia-5.0.7-200
> dmesg|grep -iEw
bad|bug|conflict|corrupted|error|fail|failed|fault|fatal|Lock|NULL|segfault|stack|trace|warn'
See here:
"https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/LrdPf~bE3iIlDkAPXHaPaw;
for results.
> "uname -a" [etc]
Results:
-bash.14[~]: uname -a
Linux [sys. name] 5.0.7-200.fc29.x86_64 #1 SMP
Good afternoon,
A short while ago, I upgraded from f28 to f29. One post-upgrade step suggested
by the upgrade instructions is:
-
bash.3[~]: dnf list extras
Last metadata expiration check: 0:32:03 ago on Thu 18 Apr 2019 02:01:12 PM MDT.
Extra Packages
clutter-gst.x86_64
(Ed wrote)
> These are produced by the "tracker" packages.
> I, personally, couldn't find a need for them so I erased them
> quite some time ago.
I assume you deleted the files, not the packages. Mine were dated 2013,
so I deleted them.
> Do a "dnf info tracker" and "dnf info traker-miners"
(Samuel wrote)
> There was a program called "e2defrag", but it was for ext2 only.
> e2fsck will give you a fragmentation percent at the end. Just
> don't forget the "-n" unless the partition is not mounted!
I done it.
-
-bash.5[~]: e2fsck -nf [partition]
e2fsck 1.44.2 (14-May-2018)
Warning!
(Samuel wrote)
> There was a program called "e2defrag", but it was for ext2 only.
> e2fsck will give you a fragmentation percent at the end. Just
> don't forget the "-n" unless the partition is not mounted!
> ...
I saw this after tagging the thread "SOLVED". But for continuing
education, I'll
(Joe wrote)
> You don't. The ext2/3/4 file systems are designed to minimize
> fragmentation, ...
Not what I expected. But I like it!
Recently, I've been moving a lot of files and sub-directories around.
And I'm preparing for a semi-annual big back-up and system upgrade (to
F-29). Because it
(Ed wrote)
> You could be thinking of e4defrag?
I vaguely recall it being a GUI tool. But it's a vague memory. I did a
"man" on e4defrag. That should work.
Thank-you, Ed.
Bill.
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Mike wrote
> I don't know of any defragmentation tool. Are you maybe thinking of
> "fsck"? It's a program to check the health of the filesystem and
> recover any lost bits, etc.
No. It was definitely a tool that included fragmentation checking and
defragmentation functionality.
Good evening,
I recall that a few years ago, I somehow checked my Fedora system for disk
fragmentation. I also think the tool came with Fedora; i did not have to
install it separately. Now, I don't recall the name of the tool that did that.
Nor can I find any tool to do that. How do I
ok, here's the solution in Gnome...
1. install "gnome-shell-extension-ibus-font", which I did from the
command line:
dnf install gnome-shell-extension-ibus-font
2. run "gnome-shell-extension-prefs", which I did from the command line:
gnome-shell-extension-prefs
This launches a GUI. Scroll
> ...When you click on the "burger"...
drat. now I'm hungry!
Thank-you, Ed. I learn something new every year.
I got rid of the "mess" in the panel.
It was quite a struggle, but I did get "im-chooser" run successfully.
How did you configure ibus to put the "EN" rather than the blue Chinese
> ...If you were to run im-chooser in Gnome you'd get an error and a
> log entry which would say something like the desktop isn't a target
> for im-chooser.
I get:
bash.2[~]: im-chooser
Gtk-Message: 10:41:25.720: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent.
This is discouraged.
bash.3[~]:
> You
Strange: after my last post, I discovered that in Gnome, I could no
longer access ibus.
> ...you may have to run "im-chooser" in a terminal on KDE before
> ibus is made the default input method
If you're implying im-chooser doesn't work in Gnome, you're right.
In KDE, it partially worked.
> I use KDE.
Now I'm trying KDE.
1. It took a lot of searching, but I found the ibus preferences. But
the gui is all in Chinese. How do I get it in English?
2. In KDE, when I'm editing a file (such as with (g)vi(m) or
LibreOffice), or otherwise entering text, how do I switch languages?
(I tried to respond to this yesterday morning, but the message never
showed up.)
I forgot to say I'm on Gnome (is that relevant?), and using Fedora-28.
> Did you right click on the ibus tray icon. Pick "Preferences" and
> then "Use custom font" to select the font and the size? ...
What I did
Good morning,
I'm trying to enter Chinese characters using ibus (Intelligent Pinyin).
As I enter the pinyin spelling, the Chinese characters show up in small
menu. The characters are displayed in a small font that my old eyes
have trouble reading. I want them to display in a size 16 kai
> ... I'd suggest mentioning all this in your existing Red Hat
> Bugzilla bug...
Thank-you, Matthew. I added a comment to the Redhat bug as suggested.
I'm marking this thread closed.
Bill.
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> Yes. Fonts are delivered in RPM packages which, to DNF, look like
> any packaged software. It's probably that fonts don't _tend_ to
> change a lot. I know I've seen updates to them in the past.
Thank-you, Matthew. So it's very unlikely that I've missed a patch.
Back in January 2017, in Red
Good morning,
In my years of doing weekly patches by doing "dnf upgrade", I've never
seen any fonts added, patched, or replaced. Does "dnf upgrade" check fonts?
thanks,
Bill.
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The problem that motivated this thread seems to have (magically!)
disappeared. Perhaps the problem was on the verizon-yahoo end.
I use Thunderbird almost exclusively (>99%) for my e-mail. All accounts
are set to "SSL/TLS" and "Normal password". If I understand Tim and
Rick correctly,
(on Dec. 24, I wrote)
> ... I need to try/test this [dnfdragora] more. Now I think it's
> just doing whatever I last asked when I last exited. ...
I was correct. For example, if I set it to show "Groups", "Not
installed", "in names", search string blank, then click "Quit", then the
next time I
(on Dec. 20, I said)
> If, after a few days, the grub menu still looks good, I'll
> promote this thread from CLOSED to SOLVED.
After a weekly patching, a few cycles of nightly power-down and morning
power-up, and a few days of regular operational use, I'm confident this
really is fixed. I'm
Thank-you, Tim.
> ... Look them all up on Wikipedia, if you want mostly understandable
> explanations of each of them.
I used to think Wikipedia is great. Lately, my opinion of it is
declining. It's not always authoritative, it's not very stable (article
contents change too much, too often),
(Joe said)
> When you're finished, you need to make sure that you exit,
> not just minimize it to an icon on your panel.
1. It's listing updates immediately upon launch.
2. I clicked the "Quit" button, not just minimize.
I need to try/test this more. Now I think it's just doing whatever I
background
==
For the past few days, most every step of using yahoo e-mail in
Thunderbird is taking minutes rather than seconds. Examples: log in,
selecting a folder, selecting a message. I've changed nothing. I
looked at Thunderbird help. I saw in a different, very recent problem
(Patrick said)
> dnf install dnfdragora
Thank-you, Patrick.
done.
It works, but I notice that this, too, automatically checks for updates.
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The issues of the thread appear to be solved as best as can be hoped
for. Apparently like Rick Stevens in another thread, I don't like
automatic updates or automatic checks for updates. Now, I'm no longer
being asked for a go-ahead to update things. So as best as I can
determine, no
(Ed asked)
> What desktop do you use? KDE has dnfdragora for package management.
I use Gnome. I have quite a few KDE apps/tools on this system, I assume
all by default. I use KSysGuard routinely in Gnome, and K3b in Gnome
semi-annually. I used KDE System Settings in Gnome earlier this
Now responding to the dnf part...
(Samuel suggested)
systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer
I did that, rebooted, and tried
dnf upgrade --refresh
The command was much slower starting and displaying what would be
patched. But it looked like it worked. I did not continue with the
patches, as
I'm finally back to this. Here, I'll respond to the apper part.
(Ed said)
> apper is packagekit based. ... This is the first time I've
> seen you mention apper.
(and Samuel said)
> Right. ... anything that depends on PackageKit won't work. ...
> dnf does not require PackageKit, but Apper and
(replying to several)
Sometime after saying that what Ed suggested and that it worked. I
discovered that it was overkill. I launched "apper", and it failed
because "PackageKit" was not running. Having read the postings since my
Dec. 18 message...
(Tom said)
> But as I discovered, if you
(Rick said)
> The font(s) used by grub2 shouldbe located in /boot/grub2/fonts
> ...
> FONT_FILES in the man page just represents where the source font
> file is located. For example, to convert the FreeSans.ttf font
> (which is located in /usr/share/fonts/gnu-free) into a 24-point
> font grub2
(Rick said)
> Actually, you can change the grub font size. You need to convert a
> font into the format grub understands (.pf2) using grub2-mkfont, ...
1. How can I determine what font is currently being used?
/etc/grub2.cfg mentions "unicode.pf2", but the Fonts tool finds no font
with a name
Patrick said
> > So you're still having the problem?...
> Yes.
and
> I update my system every morning. Not sure how
> grub2-mkconfig would help.
Then I think it was just a coincidence for me.
This is now way over my pay-grade, and way beyond my training and
experience. Can someone else help
My apologies for the delay in trying these. I've been swampd. You
know, gotta get the daily fix of "The Rifleman", "Hogan's Heroes", and
"Rush to the Dead Summer". :)
Ed suggested
> gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false
and
> ... "systemctl mask packagekit.service" is a
(Ed suggested)
> gsettings set org.gnome.software download-updates false
and
> systemctl mask packagekit.service
Thank-you, Ed. Do I need to do these once as root, or do I have to do
these as each user on my workstation?
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(Dave said)
> have you seen this wikipedia entry, "GNOME Software is a utility
> for software installation and updates..."
>
> I'm using a debian derivative but on my package manager it's
> described as "gnome-software", apparently from here:
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Software
Before
> > (f-28) I closed this about a year and a half ago because a bug was
> > already filed regarding the issue. For the past few days, both
> > before and after doing my latest weekly patches, I noticed that
> > those "ACPI Error" messages no longer show up while the workstation
> > is booting.
(F-28; gnome)
In a posting in the "downsized grub menu" thread, I said:
"Something keeps trying to do automated updates, but I have not been
able to figure out what, or how to shut it off."
Tim replied, and suggested looking for something similar to MATE's
"mate-session-properties". I'm
The error messages that appeared before the grub menu are gone. I thank
those who coached me through the fix.
It seems the size of the font in the grub menu is not under my control.
Realistically, there's nothing I/we can do about it. So I'm closing
this thread.
Thank-you, Tim. I'll start a new thread on this shortly. - Bill.
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Good afternoon,
(f-28) I closed this about a year and a half ago because a bug was
already filed regarding the issue. For the past few days, both before
and after doing my latest weekly patches, I noticed that those "ACPI
Error" messages no longer show up while the workstation is booting.
(responding to Rick)
I sit corrected on the terminology and parameters. I've been doing the
right things for a few years, but I got it wrong in my last post.
I manually do "dnf upgrade --refresh" (no other options or parameters)
for patches almost every week.
I manually do "dnf
I did as Samuel suggested.
The good news: No error messages (re-)appeared before the grub menu
showed up.
The bad news: I did not notice any differences in the grub menu itself;
the font still borders on being too small for me and needing a
magnifying glass.
(Ed asked)
> Has this system been installed at around F18
> and then upgraded as time goes on?
It occurs to me that I did not fully answer this. Since dnf was
released into Fedora, I upgraded Fedora roughly every half year using
"dnf upgrade [etc]". Before that, I upgraded roughly every half
(Samuel said)
> I would say to comment out all the lines from 91-98.
Done. Re-booted. No more error messages before the grub menu appears.
Thank-you!
Now to the greater problem...
When I upgraded to Fedora-28, the text of the grub menu was
significantly down-sized. It also seems to be a
(responding to Ed)
The system was originally installed in early spring of 2013. I would
have used either the then current release, or the immediately preceding
release. I don't recall anything more.
(responding to Samuel)
Rather than deleting lines, I commented them out. It's safer; I can
(Samuel said)
> Interesting, I don't have any of those files. Check if you do. ...
Results of checking for files referenced in lines 91-98 (done as root):
---
-bash.24[system]: pwd
/boot/grub2/themes/system
-bash.25[system]: ls -la
total 7080
drwxr-xr-x. 2 root root1024 Oct 11
Hi Samuel,
I see in /etc/grub2.cfg, it says at the top
---
#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub2-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#
---
I also see in lines 91-98
---
insmod gfxmenu
Samuel,
1. What is the name and location of that grub config file?
2. Is there anything I need to do after editing the file but before
re-booting?
Thank-you.
Bill.
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Thank-you for the suggestion, Wolfgang.
I tried "journalctl -n 10" as root.
I did find "boot --", but I saw no hint of the error messages.
I searched for "grub". I searched for "error". No hits.
This is a dual-boot workstation. The error messages show up *before*
the grub menu appears,
Thank-you, Joe. /boot is in partition /dev/sda3:
---
-bash.6[boot]: df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs7.8G 0 7.8G 0% /dev
tmpfs 7.9G 59M 7.8G 1% /dev/shm
tmpfs 7.9G 1.7M 7.9G 1% /run
tmpfs 7.9G 0
(Samuel said)
> That should be in /boot. Do you have /boot on a separate partition?
How do I determine which partition /boot is in?
The directory mentioned in the error messages is under /boot as you said
(thank-you!):
---
-bash.2[system]: pwd
/boot/grub2/themes/system
Good morning,
After upgrading from F27 to F28, when booting up, I get a quickly
disappearing set of error messages just before the grub menu shows up.
Then the grub menu shows up in a very small gray font. The error
messages disappear too quickly for me to get the full text of them. But
by
Howard:
> Thanks for the tip Bill, ...
Thank Kevin, not me.
Kevin (and everyone else),
View -> Message Source
and
More -> View Source
do the same thing as Control-U. Unfortunately, what I get (after the
header) is three blocks of seemingly random characters, not html.
Changing the
View ->
Sam asked:
> How did you determine that this is the destination URL
> That's what you see, in the HTML-formatted E-mail?
I already knew about the "trick" that Ed Greshko suggests before he
posted his suggestion. (But thank-you, Ed, for trying to help.) That's
how I determined the destination
I pasted the link into the Tor Browser. The only info I had to give was
to set a password.
Sometime last month, I used the web site for the Colorado consumer
complaints office to ask where/how to file a federal complaint about
national-brand canned food products sold in supermarkets being
Ryan,
> Please make sure that the domain name in the link's destination
> URL ends in "barracuda.com".
The link's destination URL starts with
"https://encrypt.barracudanetworks.com/login?nid=;.
The rest is a very long alpha-numeric string.
I'm using Thunderbird on Fedora-28; there is no
Good afternoon,
Today, I received a message claiming to be from "nore...@barracuda.com".
Never heard of them. The message tells me to click a link in the
message to view an encrypted message. Now I know that clicking links in
e-mail is risky. How do I safely determine if this is genuine
My apologies. My post was meant to be a part of Finn's thread, not
start a new thread.
I'm marking this thread CLOSED. For further discussion, please use
Finn's thread.
Bill.
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My apologies. My post was meant to be a part of ToddAndMargo's thread,
not start a new thread. In the future, I will try to be more careful to
not reply to a digest.
The important thing:
Todd and Margo, did anything in your original thread or in this thread
provide what you want?
If Todd
> On 11/11/18 12:34 PM, home user via users wrote:
>
> Does that work for you? It doesn't work for me. I know that the man
> page says it should do that, but it always gave me 12 hour instead.
(f28 and Gnome, both up-to-date as of last Thursday, using "dnf upgrade
--refresh&
> Whenever I boot up my PC I'm getting this error
> `sudo dmesg`
>
>[ 12.432182] ACPI Error: [\_SB_.PCI0.LPCB.H_EC.ECAV]
> Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20160831/psargs-359)
>[ 12.432241] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution
failed
Good afternoon,
> > xclock -d -update 1 &
>
> Tried that. It give me a one live date and time. I could
> not figure out how to get the date and time on separate lines.
> Also the -24 switch did not work
The digital ("-d") option uses the 24-hour format by default.
Regardless, the option for
Actually, I did read the man page.
... a few times.
This thread taught me that "provides" is looking for file names, not command
names. I missed that detail in my man page readings.
I think I correctly understood what "search" does. Where I went wrong
(regarding "xeyes") was in expecting
(sigh, I can finally get back to this)
Thank-you, Samuel.
There are subtle details of these dnf capabilities I'm not grasping
("dnf search" does not find xeyes, even with the "--all" option. But it
is finding a few of the Python IDEs.
I'm trying to learn Python so I can calculate air's
Thank-you, Samuel.
The question turned out not quick.
I recently read an on-line article reviewing/evaluating several IDEs for
Python. So I'm trying to find out what I already have, and whether dnf can
install whatever I choose if I don't already have it. (My understanding is
that dnf can
Thank-you Rick.
So if I did not already know that "xeyes" is all lower case, I would have to do
"[Xx][Ee][Yy][Ee][Ss]"? Am I understanding things correctly? I'm actually
looking for repository sources for at least 6 Python development environments,
and it's not clear when a letter should be
A. background:
Consider this sequence of dnf commands...
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bash.32[~]: dnf provides Xeyes
Last metadata expiration check: 13 days, 6:37:31 ago on Tue 26 Jun 2018
09:03:52 AM MDT.
Error: No Matches found
bash.33[~]: dnf provides x_eyes
Last metadata expiration check: 13 days, 6:38:00
I use Gnome (mostly) and KDE (rarely). I'm not familiar with Mate; I don't
know what a "panel meny" is. But no, you don't need to reboot.
Regardless of which user name I log in as, I launch xeyes from ".bash_profile",
and put it into the background. This way, the xeyes process and display is
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