With Great Power comes great responsibility (Spiderman movie)
I wonder whether the current generation of Redhatters knows the power that
they wield.
Thanks
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> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 8:25 PM Michael D. Setzer II via users
> wrote:
> >
> > Have the Fedora version of LibreOffice working just fine.
> > Also, have the LibreOffice 7.2.5 working just fine.
> > Dow
either have same issue, or
> others have it work?
>
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Same here in RHEL 8.5.
Seems to be a LibreOffice bug.
odt files open, ods files crash.
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> On 2021-07-03 8:02 p.m., dwoody5...@gmail.com wrote:
> > the url I am trying to download does not have an extension ie. no '.htm'
> > such
> > as:
> > https://my.acbl.org/club-results/details/338288
> >
> > wget does not download the correct
least bs=1M.
A hack that works sometimes
$ renice -n -18 -p $(pgrep usb-storage)
$ renice -n -18 -p $(pgrep dd)
$ ionice -c 2 -n 2 -p $(pgrep usb-storage)
$ ionice -c 2 -n 2 -p $(pgrep dd)
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which supports SFTP, you will never see this warning.
> (You can force use of the SFTP protocol, if available, with -sftp - see
> section 5.2.2.6.)
>
>
> --
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>
>
> rsync is not installed by default in minimal installs of many OS.
For example, we have to
===
>
>
> Telegram?
>
> https://telegram.org/
>
> You will get it from the RPM Fusion Free Updates repo for Fedora.
>
> thanks
>
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In my case, I installed Teleg
om the RPM Fusion Free Updates repo for Fedora.
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Terry Polzin 于2020年7月23日 周四上午1:34写道：
> I've been dealing with this issue on a couple of my Fedora 32 machines.
> It appears that the upgrade of icedtea-web
> from icedtea-web-1.8.2-3.fc31.x86_64 to
> icedtea-web-2.0.0-pre.0.3.alpha13.patched1.fc32.x86_64 breaks the
> alternatives link to javaws.x8
On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 07:37 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 2:01 PM Robin Lee
> wrote:
> > I'm trying to do a very simple task on my Fedora 32 desktop but
> > somehow
> > I can't make it happen.
> >
> > I've downloaded a Win
On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 15:15 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>
> Ha! I finally get to answer one instead of always asking
> all the questions.
>
> :-)
>
>
> Install WoeUSB (as root):
Thanks Todd, with WoeUSB everything just worked.
Cheers
Robin
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On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 12:51 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 7/5/20 12:48 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 12:21 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > > On 7/5/20 12:01 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > > I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.
On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 12:21 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 7/5/20 12:01 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.com
> > that I
> > put on a USB-stick and tried to install Windows on physical
> > machine,
> > but i
I'm trying to do a very simple task on my Fedora 32 desktop but somehow
I can't make it happen.
I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.com that I
put on a USB-stick and tried to install Windows on physical machine,
but it won't boot from the USB. It shows up in the BIOS boot m
On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 11:33 +0200, Mayavimmer wrote:
> Robin Lee wrote:
>
> > Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one.
> >
> > Also been launching VLC from a terminal lately and sometimes it
> > also
> > doesn't terminate cleanly that way.
Hi,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/firewalld_default_to_nftables
mentions a
docker-firewalld
where can I find that package or source code?
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On Mon, 2020-05-18 at 18:20 +0800, Ian Chapman wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> > The thing is that sometimes when I close vlc after I've watched
> > some
> > video it doesn't terminate cleanly. That is there is still a vlc
> > process running in the background and it prevents the screen saver
> > from
> > bla
On Sat, 2020-05-16 at 05:54 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-05-15 20:02, Robin Lee wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm on Fedora 32, but this problem I have had for a while.
> >
> > The thing is that sometimes when I close vlc after I've watched
> > som
On Fri, 2020-05-15 at 08:25 -0700, stan via users wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 14:02:17 +0200
> Robin Lee wrote:
>
> > The thing is that sometimes when I close vlc after I've watched
> > some
> > video it doesn't terminate cleanly. That is there is s
Hi
I'm on Fedora 32, but this problem I have had for a while.
The thing is that sometimes when I close vlc after I've watched some
video it doesn't terminate cleanly. That is there is still a vlc
process running in the background and it prevents the screen saver from
blanking the screen. So somet
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 6:21 PM Patrick O'Callaghan
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> On Wed, 2020-05-13 at 08:26 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 May 2020 13:07:32 +0100
> > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >
> > > BTW, Google say that Duo will support multi-user on desktops in the
> > > near future.
> >
> > And pro
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On Wed, 2020-04-22 at 21:17 -0400, Fred Smith wrote:
>
> I don't know how the OP installed the Brother drivers, but there are
> two ways: one is detailed with lots of tweaks you need to make, and
> the other is relatively trivial.
>
> You can either:
> 1. download the individual driver files and
On Wed, 2020-04-22 at 09:49 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote:
> I would comment out the SYSFS lines and see if that fixes
> anything. I
> would also remove the executable bit {chmod -x filename).
>
> It seems they have put both SYSFS (used in RHEL5, so really old) and
> ATTRS (new name RHEL6(say f12) an
Hi list
I recently got a Brother scanner/printer for my Fedora 31 desktop. I've
installed all the drivers from Brother and the printing part works
fine, but not scanning.
When I launch simple-scan, either as root or normal user it can't find
any scanner. Although it will show up in Settings -> De
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Hi,
We have used https://hangouts.google.com/ for 5 people.
Use Chrome and install the app from URL bar.
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> >To: Community support for Fedora users
> >Subject: Contact Email
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> >Hi,
> >
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Hi,
Can we get the contact of the group maintaining.
https://releases.ansible.com/ansible/rpm/release/
?
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Downgrading to kernel 4.14.x from kernel.org fixed the freezing issue when
I was
t;
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1188683/gnome-keyring-daemon-spams-system-journal
>
>
>
> > On Dec 4, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Robin Lee
> > wrote:
> >
> > > asked to register item
> > > /org/freedesktop/sec
On Tue, 2019-12-03 at 10:37 +0100, Robin Lee wrote:
> Hi
>
> On my newly upgraded Fedora 31 desktop there is annoying issue. Every
> second gnome-keyring-daemon logs the following message
> "asked to register item /org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/login/86,
> but
Hi
On my newly upgraded Fedora 31 desktop there is annoying issue. Every
second gnome-keyring-daemon logs the following message
"asked to register item /org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/login/86,
but it's already registered". Rebooting doesn't help.
It totally fills up the log, anything I can
On Mon, 2019-12-02 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2019-12-01 20:57, Robin Lee wrote:
> > Ok, but will the Electrum wallet still be able to communicate with
> > my
> > Ledger device?
>
> I can't be certain. But I think it will.
>
Thanks for advices. I
On Sun, 2019-12-01 at 20:32 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2019-12-01 19:41, Robin Lee wrote:
> > I've got a Fedora 29 desktop that I thought it was time to upgrade.
> > But
> > there was a problem. When I ran
> > dnf system-upgrade download --refresh --releasever
Hi
I've got a Fedora 29 desktop that I thought it was time to upgrade. But
there was a problem. When I ran
dnf system-upgrade download --refresh --releasever=30
I get the following error
Problem: package python2-btchip-0.1.28-1.fc29.noarch requires python2-
hidapi, but none of the providers can
On Tue, 2019-09-17 at 22:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 9/17/19 9:10 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > But, what about the error message I pointed out earlier
> > TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable
>
> The part of error you quoted earlier was
&
On Tue, 2019-09-17 at 21:03 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 9/17/19 8:52 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > On Tue, 2019-09-17 at 20:45 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > On 9/17/19 8:21 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the help. I did run "journalctl -b -1&quo
On Tue, 2019-09-17 at 20:45 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 9/17/19 8:21 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > Thanks for the help. I did run "journalctl -b -1" after a failed
> > try to
> > use Gnome Software to update to latest software packages. And it
> > seems
> >
On Mon, 2019-09-16 at 13:10 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> If that didn't work, then run "journalctl --list-boots" and find the
> one for the right time. Then run "journalctl -b -1" (again replace
> with the right number).
Thanks for the help. I did run "journalctl -b -1" after a failed try to
use G
On Sun, 2019-09-15 at 10:51 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> I'm running Fedora 29 and some time ago the Gnome Software Updater
> stopped working.
>
> It informs me that there are new updates available and I press the
> Download button. After a while the button changes to Restart
Hi
I'm running Fedora 29 and some time ago the Gnome Software Updater
stopped working.
It informs me that there are new updates available and I press the
Download button. After a while the button changes to Restart and Update
and I press it, so the computer reboots and after that it briefly
displ
On Thu, 2019-07-25 at 08:48 -0400, John Mellor wrote:
> Replies inline:
>
> On Thu, 2019-07-25 at 09:35 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I wonder if just for me that Evolution crashes most of the time I
> > try
> > to close it?
>
> Nope, it
Hi
I wonder if just for me that Evolution crashes most of the time I try
to close it?
I usually start Evolution right away after logging in and then have it
running until it is time to apply software updates. I usually do that
twice a week. More than half of time closing Evolution crashes the
who
On Sun, 2019-06-09 at 18:52 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 6/9/19 6:32 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 6/9/19 4:14 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 19:28 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > > I have a laptop with Fedora 30 and on it I use VPN. Now after I
> &
On Fri, 2019-06-07 at 19:28 +0200, Robin Lee wrote:
> I have a laptop with Fedora 30 and on it I use VPN. Now after I
> upgraded from Fedora 29 I've got the problem that Gnome applications
> like Evolution and Gnome Software don't work anymore because they
> think the comput
Hi
I have a laptop with Fedora 30 and on it I use VPN. Now after I
upgraded from Fedora 29 I've got the problem that Gnome applications
like Evolution and Gnome Software don't work anymore because they think
the computer is offline when VPN is activated. Also the wifi icon in
the upper right hand
I just upgraded one of my computers from Fedora 29 to 30 and after that
grub doesn't work any more as it should. Now when I boot up I get
briefly the following message
Booting from Hard Disk...
.
error: ../../grub-core/kern/misc.c:465:unrecognized number.
then it boots the default kernel. I was e
On Mon, 2019-03-25 at 17:23 -0700, Richard England wrote:
> On 3/25/19 1:22 AM, Robin Lee wrote:
>
>
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, 2019-03-25 at 15:07 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
> >
> > > On 3/25/1
On Mon, 2019-03-25 at 15:07 +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
> On 3/25/19 3:03 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
>
>
>
> > So I just updated my Fedora 29 desktop and now the title bar
> > in Firefoxis gone. How is one to minimize a Firefox window
> > nowadays
So I just updated my Fedora 29 desktop and now the title bar in Firefox
is gone. How is one to minimize a Firefox window nowadays? How can I
make Firefox behave like all the other Gnome app windows?
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> On 2/24/19 1:10 PM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > On Sun, 2019-02-17 at 17:31 +0100, Robin Lee wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 15:48 -0500, John Harris wrote:
> > > > The only way that I personally know how to d
On Sun, 2019-02-17 at 17:31 +0100, Robin Lee wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 15:48 -0500, John Harris wrote:
> > The only way that I personally know how to do with is by setting a
> > system wide
> > proxy. If you could find the process GNOME uses to sync CalDAV and
> &
On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 15:48 -0500, John Harris wrote:
> The only way that I personally know how to do with is by setting a
> system wide
> proxy. If you could find the process GNOME uses to sync CalDAV and
> CardDAV,
> you could `torify` it. There is no built-in way to do this in GNOME,
> at leas
On Fri, 2019-02-15 at 08:55 -0500, John Harris wrote:
> On Friday, February 15, 2019 4:13:19 AM EST Robin Lee wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 20:59 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >
> > > On 2/14/19 11:12 AM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wonder if
On Thu, 2019-02-14 at 20:59 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 2/14/19 11:12 AM, Robin Lee wrote:
> > I wonder if there's away to configure a Nextcloud account in Online
> > Accounts or otherwise that would connect to a Nextcloud server that
> > resides on a tor hidden serv
Hi
I wonder if there's away to configure a Nextcloud account in Online
Accounts or otherwise that would connect to a Nextcloud server that
resides on a tor hidden service, i.e. it would need to connect to an
onion address.
Cheers
Robin
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On Fri, 2019-01-04 at 11:29 +0100, Jakub Jelen wrote:
> Do you have some josm plugins installed?
Thank you. That was it. My desktop josm had more than a dozen plugins
that had aggregated over the years. I threw them out and reinstalled
the ones I knew I wanted. After that my desktop josm was as r
Hi
I have a desktop and a laptop, both with fully updated Fedora 29. The
laptop is a fresh installation while the desktop has been upgraded from
previous versions of Fedora. And I have Josm installed on both.
Now the problem is that on the desktop Josm has become really slow. You
need some seriou
Hi
I've got a fully updated Fedora 28 with electron-cash-3.3.1-
1.fc28.noarch and a Trezor One hardware wallet. The problem is that I
just realized that I can't sign bitcoin cash transactions from my
Trezor. What I get when I try to sign is:
'NoneType' object has no attribute '_fill_missing'
What
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> Robin Lee wrote:
>> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
>>> Robin Lee wrote:
>>>> I recently upgrade my host from f26 to f28. But to keep compatible
>>>> with old behavior,
On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> Robin Lee wrote:
>> I recently upgrade my host from f26 to f28. But to keep compatible
>> with old behavior,
>> I am figuring out a way to revert the change 'Separate Subpackage and
>> Source Debuginf
Hi,
I recently upgrade my host from f26 to f28. But to keep compatible
with old behavior,
I am figuring out a way to revert the change 'Separate Subpackage and
Source Debuginfo'[1].
That means let rpm not generate debugsource and subpackage debuginfo.
Simply adding '%_debugsource_packages 0' to ~/
2015 12:09 PM, Lee wrote:
>
> Try mounting the device manually in a terminal.
> On May 29, 2015 8:20 AM, "Ronal B Morse" wrote:
>
>>
>> No problem with my Android phone- Mounts and seen by ADB.
>>>>
>>>> Where might I start? I would RTFM if
Try mounting the device manually in a terminal.
On May 29, 2015 8:20 AM, "Ronal B Morse" wrote:
> On 05/29/2015 09:12 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 10:54 -0400, David Cary Hart wrote:
>>
>>> This is probably basic stuff. It's just been a very long time since I
>>>
>>>
Only on linux?
On Oct 11, 2014 11:13 AM, "Rahul Sundaram" wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Lee wrote:
>
>> Really? I thought it required silverlight?
>>
> Silverlight is one option however it is not supported in many platforms
> inclu
Really? I thought it required silverlight.
On Oct 11, 2014 4:58 AM, "Neal Becker" wrote:
>
> I see with fedora20 + current chrome stable, netflix now works! And,
even works
> well with my chromecast.
>
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g writes:
> On 07/14/2014 07:15 PM, lee wrote:
> <>
>
>> Then I should have received a notification that my messages are being
>> delayed indefinitely.
> <>
>
>> I have neither been offtopic, not did I break the conduct, if you go by
>> what i
Kevin Fenzi writes:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 00:55:51 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> how long do the moderators intend to delay my messages?
>
> If you are referring to the ones in the 'why do we use systemd?' thread
> then I suspect it's
Hi,
how long do the moderators intend to delay my messages?
It seems that the code of conduct the moderators are referring to
actually means that everyone who disagrees will be silenced. If that is
so, just say so.
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Ian Malone writes:
> On 10 July 2014 09:49, lee wrote:
>> Ian Malone writes:
>>
>>>> On 10 July 2014 01:10, lee wrote:
>>>
>>>> You trust computers too much.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, I'm pragmatic in what can
Rahul Sundaram writes:
> Hi
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:42 PM, lee wrote:
>
>> I made a bug report suggesting to fix their misunderstanding of what
>> "disabled" means. It would have been very easy to fix, but they
>> declined.
>>
>>
Ian Malone writes:
>> On 10 July 2014 01:10, lee wrote:
>
>> You trust computers too much.
>>
>
> No, I'm pragmatic in what can be trusted. If key components of your
> system are compromised then what are you protecting and what are you
> protecting from?
Rahul Sundaram writes:
> Hi
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:23 PM, lee wrote:
>
>> Then they should do it again.
>>
>
> That is a Debian maintainers decision.
That doesn't mean that they shouldn't do it again.
>> That doesn't mean that users
Rahul Sundaram writes:
> Hi
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:08 PM, lee wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> That is irrelevant.
>
>
> How?
Because disabled means disabled and not something like ondemand.
>> I don't know what you don't understand ---
>&
"R. G. Newbury" writes:
> So 'masked' is actually NEVER NOT EVEN WHEN YOU WANT IT. and DISABLED
> means SOMETIMES,
They confuse "masked" with "disabled" and "disabled" with "ondemand" and
deny to fix that.
> This thread contains numerous instances of why systemd is not well
> architected, altho
Rahul Sundaram writes:
> Hi
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:19 AM, lee wrote:
>
>> The bug --- or call it misstatement if you like --- is with systemd in
>> that things can still be started even when they are disabled.
>>
>
> Err. no. Before systemd, the
Rahul Sundaram writes:
> If there are concrete criticisms, they should ideally be in the form
> of bug reports to reach the developers directly.
I made a bug report suggesting to fix their misunderstanding of what
"disabled" means. It would have been very easy to fix, but they
declined.
Why sh
Ed Greshko writes:
> On 07/09/14 22:57, lee wrote:
>> Ed Greshko writes:
>>
>>> On 07/09/14 19:41, lee wrote:
>>>> what is an "ll header"?
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to figure out why I have martian sources and got so far
Mickey writes:
> F20 / KDE
>
> Trying to run acroread in AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.rpm and it
> won't start.
>
> I have run Strace on acroread and listed the last few lines of the Output,
To be curious, doesn't that violate the license it comes with?
> Could someone tell me what it all mean
Rahul Sundaram writes:
> Hi
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:03 AM, lee wrote:
>
>> Apparently the project secretary has a hand in it, and sponsors are
>> needed. So maybe it's not as easy as it seems.
>>
>
> It is fairly easy to bring any proposal t
Adrian Sevcenco writes:
> These are completely unrelated terms. in services start language
> "enabled" means "start at boot" and disabled "do not start at boot" ..
> and that's all ..
If you want to see it this way, then systemd misunderstands things so
that "disabled" means to start something e
Ian Malone writes:
> On 8 July 2014 22:33, lee wrote:
>> Ian Malone writes:
>>
>>> By expecting users to mount attached devices with full-fat mount usage
>>> you open the potential for exploits.
>>
>> How would that happen? A file system is eith
Ed Greshko writes:
> On 07/09/14 19:41, lee wrote:
>> what is an "ll header"?
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out why I have martian sources and got so far as to
>> think that they are not created on my side. Yet the "ll header" might
>>
Joe Zeff writes:
> On 07/08/2014 11:40 PM, lee wrote:
>> When something is disguised or hidden, it is not disabled. It is
>> camouflaged or concealed. Camouflage, concealment, hiding, disguise and
>> masking can all be used for*preventing* from being disabled.
>
David Benfell writes:
> I guess the two questions I'm reaching for are:
>
> 1) Is systemd conceptually broken, just a really bad idea from the
> start? Some people say yes, and some of them argue well.
So far, I've seen only arguments that would support that systemd is a
really bad idea because
Hi,
what is an "ll header"?
I'm trying to figure out why I have martian sources and got so far as to
think that they are not created on my side. Yet the "ll header" might
contain some useful information if I knew exactly how to interpret that
information.
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Rahul Sundaram writes:
> This is not random Debian maintainers. This is the Debian technical
> committee empowered with making such decisions. A GR (General resolution)
> is the only way to override the tech committee and that requires some
> Debian maintainer to propose one and so far noone ha
Matthew Miller writes:
> The Fedora Project Board is exploring the question “What is success for
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David Benfell writes:
> lee writes:
>>
>> I don't mind this idea. Yet when I disable something, I expect it to be
>> disabled.
>
> This is another terminology issue, which I think should be viewed
> separately from the merits/demerits of systemd itself. A
David Benfell writes:
> lee writes:
>>
>> And only seven votes? Are they serious?
>
> I didn't realize they'd only gotten seven votes (presumably of the
> maintainers who advocate systemd). I do understand that quorum rules
> need to be loose enough to allow
Joe Zeff writes:
> In systemd, a service that's disabled won't be directly started at
> boot, but another service can still start it either at boot or later.
That means that the service is *not* disabled.
> To keep a service from being started by systemd under any
> circumstances, you need to m
David Benfell writes:
> https://wiki.debian.org/systemd
>
> "systemd was included in Debian wheezy as a technology preview"
>
> However, it appears that even though they have taken their vote, and
> chosen systemd, they have not yet developed service files for all
> their packages (neither has Fe
Joe Zeff writes:
> computer, it's configured more for convenience than security. Each
> person's needs are different, and this is just another example where
> *nix lets people do things their own way instead of insisting that
> there's One True Way.
Choices are good to have. Unfortunately, the
Ian Malone writes:
> By expecting users to mount attached devices with full-fat mount usage
> you open the potential for exploits.
How would that happen? A file system is either mounted or not, or is
it?
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Tim writes:
> Allegedly, on or about 06 July 2014, lee sent:
>> Why would anyone but root be allowed to mount something?
>
> Because *I* put a CD, DVD, USB drive, into *my* computer, logged in as
> *myself*...
That doesn't mean that you should be allowed to mount it whe
Glenn Holmer writes:
> On 07/07/2014 04:34 AM, lee wrote:
>> The authors of systemd don't even understand what "disabled" means.
>
> A pretty bold statement. Disabled means the same thing it does in
> sysvinit: the service won't start at boot time.
But it m
Tom Horsley writes:
> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 12:27:53 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Debian and centos use sysvinit; I don't know what others use.
>
> Not for long.
Debian says that wheezy comes with it[1], yet it didn't (other than
perhaps as an option) as I can see from w
Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
> BTW, I am a technical user (i.e. I'm more technically inclined than most
> people and less so than some), but I object to that being used as a
> crutch by people who don't take the trouble to write clearly. Writing
> clear documentation is just as hard as writing goo
Kevin Fenzi writes:
> On Sun, 6 Jul 2014 13:25:42 -0500 (CDT)
> Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2014, lee wrote:
>>
>> > Joe Zeff writes:
>> >
>> >> On 07/06/2014 12:43 AM, lee wrote:
>> >>> Not even the config
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