On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 3:00 AM Tim via users
wrote:
> Tim:
> >>> I keep meaning to change hosts, but finding someone else who actually
> >>> says they use Apache (in my country) and doesn't have the worst website
> >>> to navigate to look at features versus price, is a pain in the butt.
Here
Tim:
>>> I keep meaning to change hosts, but finding someone else who actually
>>> says they use Apache (in my country) and doesn't have the worst website
>>> to navigate to look at features versus price, is a pain in the butt.
Barry:
>> I use digitalocean.com and run a “droplet”, 1GiB VM
On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 11:14 AM Barry wrote:
> > On 14 Dec 2022, at 15:49, Tim via users
> > wrote:
> > On Tue, 2022-12-13 at 16:11 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> >> I used to use bind, but it became impossible to configure when
> >> they started enforcing DNS encryption,
> > ...
> > Likewise, I
On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 10:49 AM Tim via users
wrote:
>
> Likewise, I use Apache rather than some other half-baked HTTP server.
> Though, unfortunately, my hosting provider has decided they're now
> going to use LightSpeed, which isn't Apache-compatible in the areas
> that I want (not to mention
> On 14 Dec 2022, at 15:49, Tim via users wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2022-12-13 at 16:11 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> I used to use bind, but it became impossible to configure when
>> they started enforcing DNS encryption,
>
>
>
> When did that happen? Mine isn't running that way, though I'm
On Tue, 2022-12-13 at 16:11 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I used to use bind, but it became impossible to configure when
> they started enforcing DNS encryption,
When did that happen? Mine isn't running that way, though I'm running
it on CentOS 7.
> switched to dnsmasq and wondered why I ever
This is an interesting thread. Is there a group on networking or servers. I
am going to enjoy this. :)
On Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 9:16 PM Mike Wright
wrote:
> On 12/13/22 13:11, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:16:43 +1030
> > Tim via users wrote:
> >
> >> I have a server PC running
On 12/13/22 13:11, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:16:43 +1030
Tim via users wrote:
I have a server PC running 24/7, so I use it instead.
Me too. I used to use bind, but it became impossible to configure when
they started enforcing DNS encryption, switched to dnsmasq and wondered
On 12/13/22 12:48, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 3:20 PM Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 12/10/22 01:06, Tim via users wrote:
Tim:
Are you supposed to remember which epson printer is which without any
clues? Are they both going to get the same name? Will they self-
modify one of
On 12/13/22 13:11, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:16:43 +1030
Tim via users wrote:
I have a server PC running 24/7, so I use it instead.
Me too. I used to use bind, but it became impossible to configure when
they started enforcing DNS encryption, switched to dnsmasq and wondered
On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:16:43 +1030
Tim via users wrote:
> I have a server PC running 24/7, so I use it instead.
Me too. I used to use bind, but it became impossible to configure when
they started enforcing DNS encryption, switched to dnsmasq and wondered
why I ever bothered to fool with bind
On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 3:20 PM Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
> On 12/10/22 01:06, Tim via users wrote:
> > Tim:
> >>> Are you supposed to remember which epson printer is which without any
> >>> clues? Are they both going to get the same name? Will they self-
> >>> modify one of their names? Will they
Tim:
>> However, various people have found that it also puts the kybosh
>> on normal DNS look-ups. Joe being just one.
Tom Horsley:
> Me! Before I retired, I installed loads of virtual machines to
> use for testing software on various distros. Without fail, DNS
> would simply not work until I
On 12/10/22 01:06, Tim via users wrote:
Tim:
Are you supposed to remember which epson printer is which without any
clues? Are they both going to get the same name? Will they self-
modify one of their names? Will they always be the same ones in the
same order? I despise things that make me
On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 21:40:57 +1030
Tim via users wrote:
> However, various people have found that it also puts the kybosh on
> normal DNS look-ups. Joe being just one.
Me! Before I retired, I installed loads of virtual machines to
use for testing software on various distros. Without fail, DNS
Tim:
>> The /etc/nsswitch.conf file suggests otherwise, it's far from clear:
>>
>> # Example - obey only what nisplus tells us...
>> #services: nisplus [NOTFOUND=return] files
>> #networks: nisplus [NOTFOUND=return] files
>> #protocols: nisplus [NOTFOUND=return] files
>> #rpc:nisplus
Tim via users writes:
Tim:
>> Previously, yours was:
>>
>> hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns myhostname
>>
>> Which first tries the hosts file, then mdns, then aborts if nothing
>> found (I believe, going by the comments in the rest of the file). The
Sam Varshavchik:
> My read
Tim:
>> Previously, yours was:
>>
>> hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns myhostname
>>
>> Which first tries the hosts file, then mdns, then aborts if nothing
>> found (I believe, going by the comments in the rest of the file). The
Sam Varshavchik:
> My read of nsswitch.conf's man
Tim:
>> Are you supposed to remember which epson printer is which without any
>> clues? Are they both going to get the same name? Will they self-
>> modify one of their names? Will they always be the same ones in the
>> same order? I despise things that make me play guessing games.
Samuel
On 12/9/22 16:10, Tim via users wrote:
Are you supposed to remember which epson printer is which without any
clues? Are they both going to get the same name? Will they self-
modify one of their names? Will they always be the same ones in the
same order? I despise things that make me play
Tim via users writes:
Previously, yours was:
hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns myhostname
Which first tries the hosts file, then mdns, then aborts if nothing
found (I believe, going by the comments in the rest of the file). The
My read of nsswitch.conf's man page is that
On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 10:40:34 +1030
Tim via users wrote:
> Which first tries the hosts file, then mdns, then aborts if nothing
> found (I believe, going by the comments in the rest of the file). The
> list of things in that line is illogical, to me. Why would have have
> two more things listed
Tim via users wrote:
>> Can you edit the "hosts:" line in the nsswitch.conf file? See if
>> simplifying it helps?
>>
>> e.g. hosts: files dns
>>
>> Are you able to restart the network connection?
Joe Zeff:
> Done! After the edit, I disabled/enabled Networking. That did it. Not
> sure why,
On 12/09/2022 04:26 PM, Tim via users wrote:
Can you edit the "hosts:" line in the nsswitch.conf file? See if
simplifying it helps?
e.g. hosts: files dns
Are you able to restart the network connection?
Done! After the edit, I disabled/enabled Networking. That did it. Not
sure why, but
Tim:
>> It is resolving. It looks like you're having a web browser issue (not
>> connecting, or something jamming in the cache). I'm guessing you've
>> restarted your browsing during this situation. But have you tried
>> flushing its cache, too? You can flush the cache without destroying
>>
On 12/9/22 15:35, Tim via users wrote:
It is resolving. It looks like you're having a web browser issue (not
connecting, or something jamming in the cache). I'm guessing you've
restarted your browsing during this situation. But have you tried
flushing its cache, too? You can flush the cache
On 12/9/22 15:26, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
The reasons are your own. But it's irrelevant given that you told us:
I'm planning to reinstall with 37 very soon.[1]
Even so, I'd like to get it corrected instead of just giving up until I
upgrade. And, it will be a learning experience. Even at
Joe Zeff:
> [joe@khorlia ~]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
> # Generated by NetworkManager
> search zeff.us
> nameserver 8.8.8.8
> nameserver 8.8.4.4
Looks normal. I'd expect the google DNS servers to be working well.
> [joe@khorlia ~]$ cat /etc/nsswitch.conf
> #
> # /etc/nsswitch.conf
> #
> # An
On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 5:18 PM Joe Zeff wrote:
>
> On 12/09/2022 02:59 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> > Yes, this.
>
> Do you know why I haven't upgraded before this? If not, you're not in a
> position to decide when or if I upgrade.
The reasons are your own. But it's irrelevant given that you
On 12/09/2022 02:59 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
Yes, this.
Do you know why I haven't upgraded before this? If not, you're not in a
position to decide when or if I upgrade. As I've said before, I will as
soon as it's practical.
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On 12/09/2022 02:52 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
There is no point debugging it any further. Upgrade your OS.
When I can, I will, but it's not your place to give me orders.
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On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 4:53 PM Jonathan Billings wrote:
>
> On Dec 9, 2022, at 15:55, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > Command not found, and dnf can't find it either. I should mention that for
> > various reasons this box is still running F 25, although I'm planning to
> > reinstall with 37 very soon.
>
On Dec 9, 2022, at 15:55, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Command not found, and dnf can't find it either. I should mention that for
> various reasons this box is still running F 25, although I'm planning to
> reinstall with 37 very soon.
You are running an OS that hasn’t seen any updates since 2017 (the
On 12/09/2022 02:38 PM, Tim via users wrote:
What's in your /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/nsswitch.conf files?
[joe@khorlia ~]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
search zeff.us
nameserver 8.8.8.8
nameserver 8.8.4.4
[joe@khorlia ~]$ cat /etc/nsswitch.conf
#
# /etc/nsswitch.conf
On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 13:54 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I should mention that for various reasons this box is still running F 25
Yes. That would have helped.
What's in your /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/nsswitch.conf files?
Do you have the "dig" tool installed, what results does it return (and
in
On 12/09/2022 02:13 PM, José María Terry Jiménez wrote:
Yes, it won't work in F25. Not guessing you used a so old release. This
works for > F33 or something
I think that I started out by stating that I was stuck on 25, but
planning to upgrade RSN, because I know that Things Have Changed, and
On 12/09/2022 02:06 PM, Terry Polzin wrote:
So in F36,
dnf whatprovides */resolvectl
I don't know about F25.
As I'm running F25, not F36, how is this possibly relevant?
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El 9/12/22 a las 21:54, Joe Zeff escribió:
On 12/09/2022 12:58 PM, Jose Maria Terry Jimenez wrote:
Did you tried?
resolvectl flush-caches
You can check dns cache size with:
resolvectl statistics
Command not found, and dnf can't find it either. I should mention
that for various reasons
So in F36,
dnf whatprovides */resolvectl
systemd-250.3-8.fc36.i686 : System and Service Manager
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/bin/resolvectl
Filename: /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/resolvectl
systemd-250.3-8.fc36.x86_64 : System and Service Manager
Repo
On 12/09/2022 01:48 PM, Tim via users wrote:
Is there anything useful in here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd-resolved#Caching
No. It's a very short paragraph followed by a large one dealing with
VPN issues which aren't relevant for me.
On 12/09/2022 12:58 PM, Jose Maria Terry Jimenez wrote:
Did you tried?
resolvectl flush-caches
You can check dns cache size with:
resolvectl statistics
Command not found, and dnf can't find it either. I should mention that
for various reasons this box is still running F 25, although I'm
On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 12:47 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Ever since last night, my desktop has been unable to resolve
> slashdot.org, but other computers on my LAN can. I'm presuming that
> there's something wrong with my DNS, so I'm trying to clear its cache,
> but I can't find instructions on
On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 12:47 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Ever since last night, my desktop has been unable to resolve
> slashdot.org, but other computers on my LAN can.
Is it the browser, or whole system, that can't resolve it?
The dig or nslookup commands will be using the OS to resolve the
On Fri, 9 Dec 2022 12:47:14 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
> Suggestions?
I've been there, the main problem is there are something like a dozen
different services which may or may not be cacheing DNS information, and
you have to figure out which ones are running and lookup how to make
that one clear its
El 9/12/22 a las 20:47, Joe Zeff escribió:
Ever since last night, my desktop has been unable to resolve
slashdot.org, but other computers on my LAN can. I'm presuming that
there's something wrong with my DNS, so I'm trying to clear its cache,
but I can't find instructions on how to do this
Ever since last night, my desktop has been unable to resolve
slashdot.org, but other computers on my LAN can. I'm presuming that
there's something wrong with my DNS, so I'm trying to clear its cache,
but I can't find instructions on how to do this without rebooting.
Suggestions?
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