Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 20:42:44 +1030 Tim via users wrote: > Do you have any AKmods installed? If it's rebuilding something when a > new kernel boots, versus romping straight into it at other times, that > might explain a timing difference. I always let the akmods finish building before I reboot,

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-12 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Odd that it's kernel reboots only. I wonder if there's some timing >> issue that's different then? Tom Horsley: > My best theory is that the kernel doesn't properly reset the device > from scratch, but assumes it was left in some state which the old > kernel didn't leave it in. But

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-11 Thread Go Canes
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 6:45 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > My best theory is that the kernel doesn't properly reset the device > from scratch, but assumes it was left in some state which the old > kernel didn't leave it in. But that's just a wild guess (and I've never > worked up the energy to try

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 09:58:07 +1030 Tim via users wrote: > Odd that it's kernel reboots only. I wonder if there's some timing > issue that's different then? My best theory is that the kernel doesn't properly reset the device from scratch, but assumes it was left in some state which the old

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-11 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 17:54 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > Shutting down the system then powering back up also fixes the keyboard > but briefly fiddling with the dongle is much faster. I saw USB hub somewhere which had a button on each port. It was a temporary power killer to the nearby port, to

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 16:39:12 -0600 Roger Heflin wrote: > My logi wireless keyboard/dongle works to get into the bios. So there > would not appear to be any driver needed to operate it, so that would make > me suspect the reboot is more of the cause than anything else. Yea, it always speaks to

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-11 Thread Roger Heflin
My logi wireless keyboard/dongle works to get into the bios. So there would not appear to be any driver needed to operate it, so that would make me suspect the reboot is more of the cause than anything else. And usb chipsets/connections in my experience aren't the most reliable devices depending

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-11 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 09:00 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > You could try setting a USB port to "always on."  Alternatively, > perhaps you need the opposite?  So the USB port switches off then on > again during a reboot, and resets the dongle. Oops... On motherboards with jumpers you have choices

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-11 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 14:45 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > Just got kernel 6.0.12-300.fc37.x86_64, and after rebooting to > get it loaded, my Logitech wireless keyboard dongle wasn't > talking. Unplugged it, plugged it back in, and the keyboard > works again. > > Every few months this happens on a

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2022-12-11 at 14:45 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > Just got kernel 6.0.12-300.fc37.x86_64, and after rebooting to > get it loaded, my Logitech wireless keyboard dongle wasn't > talking. Unplugged it, plugged it back in, and the keyboard > works again. > > Every few months this happens on a

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 15:13:37 -0500 Go Canes wrote: > but perhaps > you would have fewer issues using a non-external-hub port Nah, it happened just as (in)frequently when I had it plugged directly into the computer. I moved it to the hub after I got tired of having to walk around to the back of

Re: Dongle not talking again

2022-12-11 Thread Go Canes
On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 2:46 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > > Just got kernel 6.0.12-300.fc37.x86_64, and after rebooting to > get it loaded, my Logitech wireless keyboard dongle wasn't > talking. Unplugged it, plugged it back in, and the keyboard > works again. > > Every few months this happens on a

Dongle not talking again

2022-12-11 Thread Tom Horsley
Just got kernel 6.0.12-300.fc37.x86_64, and after rebooting to get it loaded, my Logitech wireless keyboard dongle wasn't talking. Unplugged it, plugged it back in, and the keyboard works again. Every few months this happens on a kernel update (not on all kernel updates though). At least I have