Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-04 Thread Tim
Tim: >> It's the same as following someone home then picking a fight with them, >> because you no-longer feel obliged to behave with decency. They only >> way to stop someone doing that sort of thing is to make it known what >> they're doing. Ralf Corsepius: > Sometimes no, sometimes yes. > > I

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/03/2013 06:49 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 03 May 2013, Ralf Corsepius sent: Well, people who are replying to PM on lists, to me qualify as "not showing any respect to privacy" and them not being able to destinguish between "confidential" and "public" correspondence. That said, t

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-03 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 03 May 2013, Ralf Corsepius sent: > Well, people who are replying to PM on lists, to me qualify as "not > showing any respect to privacy" and them not being able to destinguish > between "confidential" and "public" correspondence. > > That said, to me, replying to private

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-03 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 3 May 2013, Bill Oliver wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: BTW, one of them asks members not to top-post in replies ... Yeah, sorry. This is the only mailinglist I belong to where folk still obsess about it. It's been interesting, over the years, to watch the

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/03/2013 11:10 AM, Tim wrote: Though, having said that, it has been my policy that if someone from a mailing list sent me a cowardly private nastygram, I would reply back to the list. They rarely ever did that to me more than once, after that. Well, people who are replying to PM on lists,

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-03 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 15:04 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > do think it's a worthy topic, I'm just not sure that the Fedora list > is the place for it since it has really nothing specifically to do > with Fedora, or indeed with Linux, or operating systems, or software > or computers, but with p

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-02 Thread Roger
BTW, one of them asks members not to top-post in replies ... Most other lists to which I belong have given in to modern mailing conventions, which largely have fallen to the dictates of Outlook (and even alpine) defaults. For what it's worth, once I understood the bottom post situation,

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-02 Thread Bill Oliver
On Thu, 2 May 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: BTW, one of them asks members not to top-post in replies ... poc Yeah, sorry. This is the only mailinglist I belong to where folk still obsess about it. It's been interesting, over the years, to watch the top-post fetish move from cutting

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 20:29 +, Bill Oliver wrote: > Sure, but as those of us who spend a lot of time in court come to recognize, > what constitutes "bad manners" and what is "illegal" (and particularly what > is excludable from court), are two very, very different things. I think that's un

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 2 May 2013 18:48:36 + (UTC) Bill Oliver wrote: > > In another thread, respondents debated the expectation of privacy > regarding email. I think this is a reasonable topic for an email > mailing list, since there are many differing perceptions. ...snip... I think it&#x

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 03:04:14PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 18:48 +, Bill Oliver wrote: > > In another thread, respondents debated the expectation of privacy > > regarding email. I think this is a reasonable topic for an email > > mai

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-02 Thread Bill Oliver
ote: 3a) There is a reasonable expectation of privacy regarding email sent from one person to one other person. I might add that although there's no legal prohibition about making private emails public, most people consider it bad manners to do so without the sender's permission. "Wh

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-02 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 12:13:01PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/02/2013 11:48 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: > >3a) There is a reasonable expectation of privacy regarding email sent > >from one person to one other person. > > I might add that although there's no legal prohibit

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-02 Thread agraham
On 05/02/2013 07:48 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: In another thread, respondents debated the expectation of privacy regarding email. I think this is a reasonable topic for an email mailing list, since there are many differing perceptions. Of course, laws and customs vary across the world. In the

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 18:48 +, Bill Oliver wrote: > In another thread, respondents debated the expectation of privacy > regarding email. I think this is a reasonable topic for an email > mailing list, since there are many differing perceptions. I do think it's a worthy topic

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-02 Thread Joe Zeff
On 05/02/2013 11:48 AM, Bill Oliver wrote: 3a) There is a reasonable expectation of privacy regarding email sent from one person to one other person. I might add that although there's no legal prohibition about making private emails public, most people consider it bad manners to

Re: Expectation of privacy

2013-05-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.05.2013 20:48, schrieb Bill Oliver: > In another thread, respondents debated the expectation of privacy regarding > email. I think this is a reasonable > topic for an email mailing list, since there are many differing perceptions. > > Any person who expects that th

Expectation of privacy

2013-05-02 Thread Bill Oliver
In another thread, respondents debated the expectation of privacy regarding email. I think this is a reasonable topic for an email mailing list, since there are many differing perceptions. Of course, laws and customs vary across the world. In the United States, there is a rather complex