Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-08-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/02/18 14:26, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 08/01/2018 10:47 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: >> And in the near future I'll change to 64bit if I have a >> migration strategie to to this painless and quick. > > It isn't painless or quick.  It requires a reinstall.  You can run a 64-bit > kernel > even thoug

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-08-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 08/01/2018 10:47 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: And in the near future I'll change to 64bit if I have a migration strategie to to this painless and quick. It isn't painless or quick. It requires a reinstall. You can run a 64-bit kernel even though the rest of the OS is 32-bit, but dnf might get

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-08-01 Thread Frank Elsner
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 09:56:52 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 07/31/2018 11:50 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: > > But on my TP x230i with 8GB running F28 file /var/log/dnf.rpm.log shows > > 2018-07-23T08:41:52Z INFO Installed: kernel-PAE-4.17.7-100.fc27.i686 > > ^^ ^^

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-08-01 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/01/2018 09:56 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 07/31/2018 11:50 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: >> But on my TP x230i with 8GB running F28 file /var/log/dnf.rpm.log shows >> 2018-07-23T08:41:52Z INFO Installed: kernel-PAE-4.17.7-100.fc27.i686 >> ^^   ^ > >

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-08-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 07/31/2018 11:50 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: But on my TP x230i with 8GB running F28 file /var/log/dnf.rpm.log shows 2018-07-23T08:41:52Z INFO Installed: kernel-PAE-4.17.7-100.fc27.i686 ^^ ^ I assume you're saying it's a ThinkPad. Why are you ru

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-08-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 08/01/2018 09:50 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Frank, we've said this before and I don't understand why you're not getting it: Starting with F28, 32-bit PAE kernels are NOT being built and placed in the the standard repos. The new F28 kernel you show is a pure i686, 32-bit kernel and _not_ PAE. T

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-08-01 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/01/2018 12:06 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:50:27 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote: >> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:15:57 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> On 07/31/2018 10:57 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: Can you please explain the line 2018-08-01T05:53:36Z INFO Installed: kernel-4.17.9-2

Re: Re(2): F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-08-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-08-01 at 10:53 +0200, Frank Elsner wrote: > > I don't use yumex, but if it's looking in the yum database while dnf > > looks in the dnf one, there could be an inconsistency. Just a thought. > > Thanks. I didn't know that. > > But if I do "yum update" the newer kernel isn't offered :-

Re: Re(2): F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-08-01 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Wed, 2018-08-01 at 09:06 +0200, Frank Elsner wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:50:27 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:15:57 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 07/31/2018 10:57 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: > > > > Can you please explain the line > > > > 2018-08-01T05:53:36Z INFO Instal

Re: Re(2): F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-08-01 Thread Frank Elsner
On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 09:40:37 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2018-08-01 at 09:06 +0200, Frank Elsner wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:50:27 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote: > > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:15:57 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > On 07/31/2018 10:57 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: > > > > >

Re: Re(2): F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-08-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-08-01 at 09:06 +0200, Frank Elsner wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:50:27 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:15:57 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 07/31/2018 10:57 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: > > > > Can you please explain the line > > > > 2018-08-01T05:53:36Z INFO Instal

Re(2): F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-08-01 Thread Frank Elsner
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:50:27 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote: > On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:15:57 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 07/31/2018 10:57 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: > > > Can you please explain the line > > > 2018-08-01T05:53:36Z INFO Installed: kernel-4.17.9-200.fc28.i686 > > > from /var/log/dnf.rpm.log

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-07-31 Thread Frank Elsner
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:15:57 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 07/31/2018 10:57 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: > > Can you please explain the line > > 2018-08-01T05:53:36Z INFO Installed: kernel-4.17.9-200.fc28.i686 > > from /var/log/dnf.rpm.log of my 32bit F28 system? > > What is there to explain? That is

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-07-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 07/31/2018 10:57 PM, Frank Elsner wrote: Can you please explain the line 2018-08-01T05:53:36Z INFO Installed: kernel-4.17.9-200.fc28.i686 from /var/log/dnf.rpm.log of my 32bit F28 system? What is there to explain? That is version 4.17.9 of the kernel, 32-bit non-PAE, built for F28. Do yo

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-07-31 Thread Frank Elsner
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:00:15 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 07/31/2018 08:47 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:33:08 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> The PAE kernel is no longer being built. You either need to switch to > >> non-PAE or 64-bit. > > > > Since when? The TP x121e got the

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-07-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 07/31/2018 08:47 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:33:08 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: The PAE kernel is no longer being built. You either need to switch to non-PAE or 64-bit. Since when? The TP x121e got the kernel-PAE-4.17.7-100.fc27.i686 on 2018-07-17 19:19:51 Si

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-07-31 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/31/2018 09:14 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: > On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:46:55 -0700 stan wrote: >> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 15:57:48 +0200 >> Frank Elsner wrote: >> >>> I've just upgraded my TP X230i from F27 to F28 painless. >>> But I'm still on my last F27 kernel-4.16.16-200.fc27.i686+PAE. >>> No newe

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-07-31 Thread Frank Elsner
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:46:55 -0700 stan wrote: > On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 15:57:48 +0200 > Frank Elsner wrote: > > > I've just upgraded my TP X230i from F27 to F28 painless. > > But I'm still on my last F27 kernel-4.16.16-200.fc27.i686+PAE. > > No newer kernel installed. > > > > During ame upgrade p

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-07-31 Thread Frank Elsner
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 08:33:08 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 07/31/2018 06:57 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: > > I've just upgraded my TP X230i from F27 to F28 painless. > > But I'm still on my last F27 kernel-4.16.16-200.fc27.i686+PAE. > > No newer kernel installed. > > > > During ame upgrade procedure on

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-07-31 Thread stan
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 15:57:48 +0200 Frank Elsner wrote: > I've just upgraded my TP X230i from F27 to F28 painless. > But I'm still on my last F27 kernel-4.16.16-200.fc27.i686+PAE. > No newer kernel installed. > > During ame upgrade procedure on my TP x121e kernel was updated to > kernel-4.17.7-

Re: F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-07-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 07/31/2018 06:57 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: I've just upgraded my TP X230i from F27 to F28 painless. But I'm still on my last F27 kernel-4.16.16-200.fc27.i686+PAE. No newer kernel installed. During ame upgrade procedure on my TP x121e kernel was updated to kernel-4.17.7-100.fc27.i686+PAE. Both

F27->F28 no new kernel

2018-07-31 Thread Frank Elsner
Hello, I've just upgraded my TP X230i from F27 to F28 painless. But I'm still on my last F27 kernel-4.16.16-200.fc27.i686+PAE. No newer kernel installed. During ame upgrade procedure on my TP x121e kernel was updated to kernel-4.17.7-100.fc27.i686+PAE. Both systems are 32bit. What could prevent