Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-12 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Short update. I know have the g4l booting via UEFI with my bz5x14.2d kernel and ramdisk.lzma. Had to basically add 100 lines to the .config file to load most of the framebuffer drivers and to setup the fbconsole.. But it now boots with video output, and even has the default linux penguins logo

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-12 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
More interesting things in testing. I can boot from the flash, and it loads my kernel and your g4l.img file with no problem, except of course have a blank screen... How do I know it works. First thing I tried was after waiting a while, pressed enter a number of times that will eventual bring

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-12 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Good news Bad News.. Download and tested and have a mixed set of results. Yes, your setup does boot you kernel and the g4l.img file. Not sure if your g4l.img file is just an uncompressed version of the ramdisk.lzma. 62469461 Sep 12 16:40 g4l.img 28325385 Sep 11 20:19 ramdisk.lzma If something

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-12 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Thanks. I've downloaded it, and will take a look. Have contacted the GNU Grub developer, and asked. Will see if they have an option that might work. Thanks. On 12 Sep 2021 at 0:54, Samuel Sieb wrote: From: Samuel Sieb Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-12 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 2021-09-09 5:04 a.m., Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: Does anyone know of a process to make a UEFI USB Boot that actual works using Fedora?? 1. Format your flash drive with a GPT partition table and a FAT32 partition. 2. Extract the tarball at https://bit.ly/3npBP0r into that

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-11 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 06:51:47PM +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > Not sure how I can be clearer? Have a system that works > fine with regular booting from a USB, but doesn't work > on a new machine? Looking for a way to get it to work. > Syslinux 6.04pre has some efi stuff, but

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-11 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 11 Sep 2021 at 0:55, Samuel Sieb wrote: Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org From: Samuel Sieb Date sent: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 00:55:54 -0700 Send reply to:

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-11 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/10/21 10:32 PM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: All those options are talking about Secure boot keys. Turning off the Secure boot is not an issue. The user has done that, but the exact same USB Flash that boots fine on a 3070 doesn't show up as an option on the 3080. He can take a

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/optiplex-308 0-desktop/optiplex3080_micro_specs/boot-menu?guid=gu id-8fc0315f-0cbf-461a-996f-54a98f99d05a=en-us Shows only. The options are: UEFI Boot: Windows Boot Manager The bios option only talk about updating the bios from options if

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Sep 10, 2021, at 17:32, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > > That is what I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying to make a > Flash that has EFI boot setup. Might be if I had a system > setup with an EFI boot, I could place the kernel files in a > similar process to the 40_custom on the standard

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
So the error message is "initramfs unpacking failed: no cpio magic". I I guess you will need to repack your initramfs to be compatible with the Fedora kernel. Are you aware that there are various tools included with Fedora to help you create live boot images?

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 10 Sep 2021 at 16:10, Jonathan Billings wrote: Date sent: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 16:10:50 -0400 From: Jonathan Billings To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? Send

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 01:11:38AM +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > The G4L kernels require no kernel modules. That is one > the file system will work with any of the kernels with no > changes at all. Just build new kernel, and copy it to the > boot directly ad change the lines

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 10 Sep 2021 at 10:43, Jonathan Billings wrote: Date sent: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:43:15 -0400 From: Jonathan Billings To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? Send

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-09-10 9:49 a.m., Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: On 10 Sep 2021 at 8:23, Jonathan Billings wrote: Date sent: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:23:09 -0400 From: Jonathan Billings To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re:

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 11:49:38PM +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > Totally missing the point of the G4L project. > It is to make bare metal images of disk or partitions. > You can't make an image if the partition is running on the > disk since the contents is modified with it runs.

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 10 Sep 2021 at 8:23, Jonathan Billings wrote: Date sent: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 08:23:09 -0400 From: Jonathan Billings To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? Send

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 03:21:48PM +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > More to look at, but less hope of finding a easy/simple > solution. Just downloaded and build 3 new kernels from > kernel.org, and with the regular (non EFI) they all work > just fine. > Thanks for the info.. I

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/10/21 12:36 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Well, tired it and get a kernel panic... Booted a notebook that has fully updated fedora 33, and went to the 3rd kernel on the list and used edit option. Changed the initrd line to use the g4l ramdisk.lzma as the initrd and it comes up with a

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Well, tired it and get a kernel panic... Booted a notebook that has fully updated fedora 33, and went to the 3rd kernel on the list and used edit option. Changed the initrd line to use the g4l ramdisk.lzma as the initrd and it comes up with a kernel panic.. Could just be that Fedora kernel

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/9/21 11:39 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Not sure? The Fedora Kernels are built to use Systemd and Selinux, so not sure how they would interact with the g4l's ramdisk.lzma file. With the G4L kernel, it includes systemd is just an init system, the kernel doesn't have anything specific

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-10 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 9 Sep 2021 at 22:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? To: Community support for Fedora users From: Samuel Sieb Date sent: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 22:51:43 -0700 Send reply to:

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/9/21 10:21 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: On 9 Sep 2021 at 19:16, Samuel Sieb wrote: Is there a reason you can't use the Fedora kernel? That would give you full secure boot support. What different options are you using for your kernel? I have done a test. I can boot from the Fedora 34

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 10 Sep 2021 at 0:25, Jon LaBadie wrote: Date sent: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 00:25:57 -0400 From: Jon LaBadie To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? Send reply to:

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 9 Sep 2021 at 17:50, Jonathan Billings wrote: From: Jonathan Billings Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? Date sent: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 17:50:36 -0400 To: Community support for Fedora users Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 9 Sep 2021 at 19:16, Samuel Sieb wrote: Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org From: Samuel Sieb Date sent: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 19:16:51 -0700 Send reply to:

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Jon LaBadie
This may be a totally useless experience from another Dell computer, but ... I was running an older Fedora on both a non-Dell desktop and a Dell Vostro laptop. I decided to do a fresh reinstall on the laptop. First, used the desktop to create an install flash drive (F34). Forget if I used

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/9/21 12:22 PM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: I don't want to create a UEFI Secure boot, since I have no way to pay for the expensive process of getting an official signature for the kernels I build from kernel.org source code. Kernels are about 10M in size, and the ramdisk.lzma is

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/9/21 6:27 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Would wiping the computer's hard drives help in any way?you know...like working with a "clean slate"?and I believe its F12 for getting in the the Bios?..but F2 or F8 to get to the BIOS settings...I only ask because I recall a time when I

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Sep 9, 2021, at 10:40, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > > At that step I end up getting the error message? > grub2-install: error: this utility cannot be used for EFI > platforms because it does not support UEFI Secure Boot. The basic answer is: Don’t use grub2-install on Fedora

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 05:22:34 +1000 Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > I'm NOT having an issue with > installing Fedora. Before I figured out how to use grub2-install directly, I would sometimes get grub installed by installing fedora on the disk, then remove all the fedora bits and modify

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 9 Sep 2021 at 10:48, Tom Horsley wrote: Date sent: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 10:48:19 -0400 From: Tom Horsley To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? Send reply to:

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 9 Sep 2021 at 14:09, George N. White III wrote: From: "George N. White III" Date sent: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 14:09:57 -0300 Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? To: Community support for Fedora users Send reply to: Community support for Fedora

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 9 Sep 2021 at 13:18, Matthew Miller wrote: Date sent: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 13:18:28 -0400 From: Matthew Miller To: "Michael D. Setzer II via users" Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? Send reply

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 9 Sep 2021 at 13:16, Jonathan Billings wrote: Date sent: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 13:16:53 -0400 From: Jonathan Billings To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? Send reply

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 10:04:04PM +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > I've found 6 web sites so far that had instructions on > setting up a UEFI USB flash to boot, but all have failed. > Some actually create a UEFI Flash that my test usb is > seen as being a UEFI flash, but the boot

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 10:04:04PM +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > #https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-create-multiboot-usb-with-linux > parted -s /dev/sdb mklabel msdos Any reason why you're using an msdos disk label? I think that most UEFI systems require GPT for booting UEFI-only

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 9 Sept 2021 at 09:35, Michael D. Setzer II via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: [...] > From my understanding from one of the Users. They just > got 140 of these new Dell 3080 machines, and they have > no options for other than UEFI boot. The 3070 versions of > the machines

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 10 Sep 2021 00:39:27 +1000 Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > At that step I end up getting the error message? > grub2-install: error: this utility cannot be used for EFI > platforms because it does not support UEFI Secure Boot. I've never gotten that error. Are use sure it is an

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 9 Sep 2021 at 10:37, John Mellor wrote: From: John Mellor Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date sent: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 10:37:11 -0400 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users > > You do not

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 9 Sep 2021 at 9:15, Tom Horsley wrote: Date sent: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 09:15:30 -0400 From: Tom Horsley To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? Send reply to:

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread John Mellor
You do not need to do anything fancy at all with a Fedora USB install media.  Fedora comes with both UEFI and legacy boot mechanisms, so it just works on all machines.  Instead, you have a BIOS setting problem, that is preventing you from seeing the USB key.  Fix that, and everything should

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
And another onedunno if these are helpful..but here. https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-us/000126121/access-uefi-bios-system-setup-from-windows-on-your-dell-system https://www.iseepassword.com/access-bios-on-dell-computer.html EGO II On 9/9/21 8:35 AM, Michael D. Setzer II

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
I couldn't remember which key it was...so I found this...maybe one of these might help?... https://www.4winkey.com/windows-tips/how-to-access-enter-bios-on-dell.html EGO II On 9/9/21 8:35 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: On 9 Sep 2021 at 8:21, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: From:

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
Would wiping the computer's hard drives help in any way?you know...like working with a "clean slate"?and I believe its F12 for getting in the the Bios?..but F2 or F8 to get to the BIOS settings...I only ask because I recall a time when I had a Dell Vostro and a Dell XPS...they both

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 09 Sep 2021 22:04:04 +1000 Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: > Does anyone know of a process to make a UEFI USB Boot that > actual works using Fedora?? I've always used: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multiboot_USB_drive I created a big utility USB stick with it than can

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 9 Sep 2021 at 8:21, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: From: "Eddie G. O'Connor Jr." Subject:Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33?? To: "Michael D. Setzer II via users" Date sent: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 08:21:23 -0400 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora

Re: Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
And you've ensured that UEFI has been turned off in the BIOS?...what about switching from Compatibility to "ACHI"?I've noticed that sometimes? that simple switch can work wondersjust a suggestion. Cheers EGO II On 9/9/21 8:04 AM, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote: I've found

Failure in gsetting up a UEFI USB Flash with Fedora 33??

2021-09-09 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
I've found 6 web sites so far that had instructions on setting up a UEFI USB flash to boot, but all have failed. Some actually create a UEFI Flash that my test usb is seen as being a UEFI flash, but the boot fails? The last one I fully documented the steps from page, but the resulting flash