Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2012-01-01 Thread g
On 01/01/2012 10:05 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/31/2011 05:30 PM, g wrote: >> do consider this, *never* say you are sorry. people may agree with you. > > Thank you, Special Agent Gibbs. -=- lshicaf. welcome. now i am going to have to get a new personae. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2012-01-01 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/31/2011 05:30 PM, g wrote: do consider this,*never* say you are sorry. people may agree with you. Thank you, Special Agent Gibbs. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guid

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread g
On 12/31/2011 08:18 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: <> > There are a few comments I could make on what the quoted text implies, > but I can't see any good coming from them, so I'll leave them unsaid. -=- a good sign of intelligence, maturity, and wisdom. unless they just really do pissed you off. B-D ha

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread g
On 12/31/2011 07:21 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/31/2011 11:07 AM, g wrote: >> so, if what i wrote offends you, tfb, and another 'source' to consider. > > Sorry, that was intended for the egregious Craig; I didn't notice that > the post wasn't from him. -=- accepted. do consider this, *never* sa

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Gerhard Magnus
On 12/31/2011 11:13 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/31/2011 09:06 AM, Jim wrote: For those of you that are garus , if you do not have the patience with dealing with NEWBIEs to Linux. just ignore the post and let someone who does. I'm not claiming to be a guru, but I don't consider myself a newbie an

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 15:01 -0500, Jim wrote: > On 12/31/2011 01:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 12/31/2011 05:18 AM, Craig White wrote: > >> at the point you called me an ass, you lost any moral authority to > >> suggest that I am the one who is being offensive. > > > > Since the beginning of this

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/31/2011 12:01 PM, Jim wrote: Joe put this subject/post to sleep, it does not serve you well to keep dwelling on it. I have no objection to that at this time. The only reason for the post that you're replying to is that there were certain things that I felt had to be said in reply to wh

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Jim
On 12/31/2011 01:59 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/31/2011 05:18 AM, Craig White wrote: at the point you called me an ass, you lost any moral authority to suggest that I am the one who is being offensive. Since the beginning of this thread, you have been nothing if not offensive, self-righteous an

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/31/2011 11:07 AM, g wrote: so, if what i wrote offends you, tfb, and another 'source' to consider. Sorry, that was intended for the egregious Craig; I didn't notice that the post wasn't from him. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription o

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/31/2011 09:17 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Often it's the newbie who is not (!) patient enough and doesn't show any interest in examining/learning/fixing something. Instead, there are complaints and rushed reinstalls (only to run into the same problem later, giving reason again to complain

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/31/2011 09:06 AM, Jim wrote: For those of you that are garus , if you do not have the patience with dealing with NEWBIEs to Linux. just ignore the post and let someone who does. I'm not claiming to be a guru, but I don't consider myself a newbie any more. I've been using Linux, off and

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread g
On 12/31/2011 06:53 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/31/2011 04:18 AM, g wrote: >> you have noticed that also. >> >> do like i do. consider the source. > > In the future, I will simply regard you as an offense thief: taking > offense when none was offered and ignore your self-righteous blathering. -=

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/31/2011 05:18 AM, Craig White wrote: at the point you called me an ass, you lost any moral authority to suggest that I am the one who is being offensive. Since the beginning of this thread, you have been nothing if not offensive, self-righteous and intolerant. You have no grounds for c

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/31/2011 04:18 AM, g wrote: you have noticed that also. do like i do. consider the source. In the future, I will simply regard you as an offense thief: taking offense when none was offered and ignore your self-righteous blathering. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:06:40 -0500, J (Jim) wrote: > For those of you that are garus , if you do not have the patience with > dealing with NEWBIEs to Linux. just ignore the post and let someone who > does. > > There is a number of people on this help site that are patience with > Newbies, Two

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:01:32 -0600, AK (Aaron) wrote: > What I don't understand why people claim this list is open to all ideas > then attack people for saying things they don't want to hear. If people > would have just ignore statements of the OP I would not have to have > read multiple posts of

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Jim
On 12/30/2011 07:21 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/30/2011 04:02 PM, Craig White wrote: I'm equally dismayed by your incessant whining about Gnome3 which I see as much the same thing. I'm sorry that you feel that way, Craig. Please note, however, that I always make it very clear that these are th

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 18:59 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 16:21 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 12/30/2011 04:02 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > I'm equally dismayed by your incessant whining about Gnome3 which I see > > > as much the same thing. > > > > I'm sorry that you feel tha

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Terry Polzin
On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 14:27 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 31.12.2011 14:18, schrieb Craig White: > > On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 00:01 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> On 12/30/2011 05:55 PM, Craig White wrote: > >>> I guess I missed the announcement where you became moderator of > >>> fedora-list. > >>

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.12.2011 14:18, schrieb Craig White: > On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 00:01 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 12/30/2011 05:55 PM, Craig White wrote: >>> I guess I missed the announcement where you became moderator of >>> fedora-list. >>> >> Are you trying to be offensive or are you simply obtuse? If she

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 00:01 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 05:55 PM, Craig White wrote: > > I guess I missed the announcement where you became moderator of > > fedora-list. > > > > Craig > > Are you trying to be offensive or are you simply obtuse? If she were to > come back and were able

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread g
On 12/31/2011 08:04 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 05:59 PM, Craig White wrote: >> I suppose we weren't supposed to notice more whining when it is >> sandwiched between justification for the whining and >> self-congratulations on your own perceived good behavior? >> >> Craig > > I am beginnin

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread nullv
+1 -Original Message- From: Ed Greshko Sender: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 08:25:20 To: Community support for Fedora users Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: "It's time for you to leave." On 12/31/2011 01:50 AM,

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 06:38 PM, Gary Waters wrote: I know this is going to seem to be a dumb question, but who is/are the modertor(s) of this list? 1) I'm curious. 2) He/she/they must have nerves of steel and must be patient beyond all imagination. AFAIK there aren't any moderators for this list. Cra

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 05:59 PM, Craig White wrote: I suppose we weren't supposed to notice more whining when it is sandwiched between justification for the whining and self-congratulations on your own perceived good behavior? Craig I am beginning to get the impression, Craig, that there's nothing I ca

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-31 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 05:55 PM, Craig White wrote: I guess I missed the announcement where you became moderator of fedora-list. Craig Are you trying to be offensive or are you simply obtuse? If she were to come back and were able to behave herself, I'd welcome her with open arms because under those

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Roger
On 31/12/11 12:25, Ed Greshko wrote: There is only one word to describe the continuation of this thread "Ironic" :-) 2 words Boring and yuck. :|\ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/list

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Gary Waters
On 12/30/2011 09:56 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/31/2011 10:38 AM, Gary Waters wrote: I know this is going to seem to be a dumb question, but who is/are the modertor(s) of this list? 1) I'm curious. 2) He/she/they must have nerves of steel and must be patient beyond all imagination. This is an

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/31/2011 10:38 AM, Gary Waters wrote: > I know this is going to seem to be a dumb question, but who is/are the > modertor(s) of this list? 1) I'm curious. 2) He/she/they must have > nerves of steel and must be patient beyond all imagination. This is an un-moderated list. A "moderated" list

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Gary Waters
On 12/30/2011 08:55 PM, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 17:48 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/30/2011 05:45 PM, Joel Rees wrote: And the question of what happens when you plug six USB drives in, well, we know better, hopefully she now realizes that's too much of a good thing and not the w

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 31-12-11 02:46, Craig White wrote: Are Patrick Lists and Patrick O'Callaghan one and the same? Nope. A quick look at the email headers from both our emails to the list will show you we are worlds apart. Regards, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread scott
On 12/30/2011 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: There is only one word to describe the continuation of this thread "Ironic" :-) And I thought the NANOG list could get fun to read at times. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 16:21 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 04:02 PM, Craig White wrote: > > I'm equally dismayed by your incessant whining about Gnome3 which I see > > as much the same thing. > > I'm sorry that you feel that way, Craig. Please note, however, that I > always make it very

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 17:48 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 05:45 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > > And the question of what happens when you plug six USB drives in, > > well, we know better, hopefully she now realizes that's too much of a > > good thing and not the way to do backup, but it does help

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 05:45 PM, Joel Rees wrote: And the question of what happens when you plug six USB drives in, well, we know better, hopefully she now realizes that's too much of a good thing and not the way to do backup, but it does help us think a bit about the edge cases we want to ignore. And t

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 09:25 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > There is only one word to describe the continuation of this thread > > "Ironic" It's like rain on your wedding day It's a free ride when you've already paid It's the good advice that you just didn't take Who would've thought... it fig

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 05:28 AM, Craig White wrote: >> >> I think it's reasonable to presume contempt when you tell someone it's >> time for them to leave. > > > No.  Linda has severe issues that cause her to start new threads that have > nothing to do wit

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 05:20 PM, Joel Rees wrote: I don't really care. Her questions do touch on a lot of the most difficult usability (Stupid spell checker reminding me that "useability" is not standard spelling. Yes, lateral thinking runs pretty strong in my family.) issues. If Linda were willing and

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
There is only one word to describe the continuation of this thread "Ironic" :-) -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in "Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@l

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Patrick Lists wrote: > On 30-12-11 07:29, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> Reading her posts often reminds me of trying to teach my sisters how >> to use something on the computer. All of them at once, on a day when >> they definitely have their wires crossed. > > I solved t

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/31/2011 01:50 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > Linda has severe issues that cause her to start new threads that have > nothing to do with Fedora or Linux even and do nothing but waste > everybody's time. Not only that, she keeps dumping her issues into > other threads, hijacking them and, again, wastin

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 04:02 PM, Craig White wrote: I'm equally dismayed by your incessant whining about Gnome3 which I see as much the same thing. I'm sorry that you feel that way, Craig. Please note, however, that I always make it very clear that these are the reasons that I personally don't use it

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 09:50 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/30/2011 05:28 AM, Craig White wrote: > > I think it's reasonable to presume contempt when you tell someone it's > > time for them to leave. > > No. Linda has severe issues that cause her to start new threads that > have nothing to do wit

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/30/2011 05:28 AM, Craig White wrote: I think it's reasonable to presume contempt when you tell someone it's time for them to leave. No. Linda has severe issues that cause her to start new threads that have nothing to do with Fedora or Linux even and do nothing but waste everybody's tim

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 10:31, antonio montagnani wrote: in this list a bunch of talebans (a list is easy to be prepared) think to have the truth and of course the right to say what is right and what is wrong. Wow a semi-Godwin. With the atrocities that the Taliban have inflicted upon many innocent men, w

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 10:00, nomnex wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:16:16 -0700 Craig White wrote: I don't share your obvious contempt for her presence and think you have been unnecessarily harsh. I think that too. I am a Fedora desktop user. My understanding is that Fedora welcome a broad range of users

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 07:29, Joel Rees wrote: Reading her posts often reminds me of trying to teach my sisters how to use something on the computer. All of them at once, on a day when they definitely have their wires crossed. I solved that by advising my sister she should get a MacBook :) She could be

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 06:44 +0100, Patrick Lists wrote: > On 30-12-11 05:16, Craig White wrote: > > On this list, we have a pretty wide variety of users including those > > that are simply desktop only end users that simply want to use a > > computer and aren't necessarily computer hobbyists nor sy

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread antonio montagnani
nomnex ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 30/12/2011 10:00: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:16:16 -0700 Craig White wrote: I don't share your obvious contempt for her presence and think you have been unnecessarily harsh. I think that too. I am a Fedora desktop user. My understanding is th

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-30 Thread nomnex
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 21:16:16 -0700 > Craig White wrote: > > I don't share your obvious contempt for her presence and think > you have been unnecessarily harsh. I think that too. I am a Fedora desktop user. My understanding is that Fedora welcome a broad range of users. I have not problem with e

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Patrick Lists wrote: > On 30-12-11 05:16, Craig White wrote: >> >> On this list, we have a pretty wide variety of users including those >> that are simply desktop only end users that simply want to use a >> computer and aren't necessarily computer hobbyists nor sys

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-29 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 05:16, Craig White wrote: On this list, we have a pretty wide variety of users including those that are simply desktop only end users that simply want to use a computer and aren't necessarily computer hobbyists nor system admins. Thus the fedora-users list doesn't even slightly resemb

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-29 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-12-30 at 04:57 +0100, Patrick Lists wrote: > On 30-12-11 00:56, Joel Rees wrote: > > Just out of curiosity, Patrick, do your filters not work? > > Filters work just fine and anything from this "Linda" person goes > directly to /dev/null. > > It's just too bad that loonies like "Lind

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-29 Thread Patrick Lists
On 30-12-11 00:56, Joel Rees wrote: Just out of curiosity, Patrick, do your filters not work? Filters work just fine and anything from this "Linda" person goes directly to /dev/null. It's just too bad that loonies like "Linda" and the threads that go on and on further drifting away off-topi

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-29 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 15:44 -0800, Linda McLeod wrote: > Bye-bye suckies Dare we hope? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-29 Thread Joel Rees
s, respect the goal of this mailing > list and show proper conduct when participating, except you? > > What makes you so special that you think the rules do not apply to you? > That you think you can show such blatant disrespect? > > Why do you choose to ignore several posts that poi

Re: "It's time for you to leave."

2011-12-29 Thread Linda McLeod
think the rules do not apply to you? That you think you can show such blatant disrespect? Why do you choose to ignore several posts that point out that you are out of line. Why do you continue your ridiculous behavior? It's time for you to leave. Patrick