Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/26/23 15:08, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 4/25/23 02:53, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Frankly, that's a consequence of using Fedora. Things change, usually for the better, but you're expected to keep up. Relying on "the old ways" will eventually bite you. The next one I guess I am going

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/25/23 02:53, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Frankly, that's a consequence of using Fedora. Things change, usually for the better, but you're expected to keep up. Relying on "the old ways" will eventually bite you. The next one I guess I am going to have to bite the bullet on is transitioning f

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-25 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/25/23 21:00, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/25/23 17:44, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 4/25/23 09:56, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/25/23 02:03, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 4/24/23 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't understand why you're having so much trouble. I do beleive after fixing and u

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/25/23 17:44, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 4/25/23 09:56, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/25/23 02:03, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 4/24/23 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't understand why you're having so much trouble. I do beleive after fixing and upgrading to the new networking method

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-25 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/25/23 18:03, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 17:44:07 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Keyfiles vs. ifcfg https://fedoramagazine.org/converting-networkmanager-from-ifcfg-to-keyfiles/ I converted when there was no longer default support for ifcfg files unless I installed Networ

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 17:44:07 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Keyfiles vs. ifcfg > > https://fedoramagazine.org/converting-networkmanager-from-ifcfg-to-keyfiles/ I converted when there was no longer default support for ifcfg files unless I installed NetworkManager-initscripts-ifcfg-rh.x86_6

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-25 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/25/23 09:56, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/25/23 02:03, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 4/24/23 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't understand why you're having so much trouble. I do beleive after fixing and upgrading to the new networking method that what has been transpiring was my preference

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-25 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/25/23 02:03, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 4/24/23 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't understand why you're having so much trouble. I do beleive after fixing and upgrading to the new networking method that what has been transpiring was my preference to stay on the old method. What new

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-25 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/25/23 02:53, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2023-04-25 at 02:03 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 4/24/23 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't understand why you're having so much trouble. Hi Sam, I do beleive after fixing and upgrading to the new networking method that what has

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-04-25 at 02:03 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 4/24/23 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > I don't understand why you're having so much trouble. > > Hi Sam, > > I do beleive after fixing and upgrading to the new > networking method that what has been transpiring > was my preferen

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-25 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/24/23 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't understand why you're having so much trouble. Hi Sam, I do beleive after fixing and upgrading to the new networking method that what has been transpiring was my preference to stay on the old method. I did not see the point in changing things just f

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 24 Apr 2023 20:02:12 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > 10: more info: 11: In some version of fedora, my br0 started getting a random MAC address but in the previous fedora, it inherited the MAC address of the physical ethernet port I connected it to. As a result, my DHCP server gave

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-24 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/24/23 17:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Oh this took my breath away.  The stinking update trashed my bridge and took out all my qemu-kvm virtual machines My notes on how to restore br0: My better updated notes: How to add or restore a bridge (br0) when knocked out by an upgrade: Refe

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-24 Thread Gabriel Ramirez via users
On 4/24/23 18:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/24/23 17:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Oh this took my breath away.  The stinking update trashed my bridge and took out all my qemu-kvm virtual machines I don't understand why you're having so much trouble.  I haven't had any issues with updates a

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-24 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/24/23 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/24/23 17:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Oh this took my breath away.  The stinking update trashed my bridge and took out all my qemu-kvm virtual machines I don't understand why you're having so much trouble.  I haven't had any issues with updates a

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/24/23 17:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Oh this took my breath away.  The stinking update trashed my bridge and took out all my qemu-kvm virtual machines I don't understand why you're having so much trouble. I haven't had any issues with updates and I have a much more complicated netw

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-24 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Oh this took my breath away. The stinking update trashed my bridge and took out all my qemu-kvm virtual machines My notes on how to restore br0: How to add or restore a bridge (br0) when knocked out by an upgrade: Reference: https://www.thegeeksearch.com/how-to-configure-network-bridge-in-c

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-24 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/24/23 06:07, Tim via users wrote: Tim: What's your DHCP server? (A PC, a hardware router?) ToddAndMargo: It is a frontier DSL modem/router/dhcp sever/hub That can make it harder, most consumer devices have limited customisation options. My modem/router is very limited, and major pain

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-24 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> What's your DHCP server? (A PC, a hardware router?) ToddAndMargo: > It is a frontier DSL modem/router/dhcp sever/hub That can make it harder, most consumer devices have limited customisation options. My modem/router is very limited, and major pain to configure (and wouldn't even let me

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-24 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/24/23 00:19, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2023-04-24 at 12:25 +0930, Tim via users wrote: What's your DHCP server? (A PC, a hardware router?) It is a frontier DSL modem/router/dhcp sever/hub Can you configure it correctly for your network preferences? Is configuring your DHCP server

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-24 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/24/23 00:15, Tim via users wrote: Tim: Those parameters are not part of "/etc/named.conf". Do you mean "/etc/resolv.conf"? ToddAndMargo: Yes. That is embarrasing Don't forget to update your bugzilla entry, or they might close it. Thank you! Just did ___

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-24 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2023-04-24 at 12:25 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > What's your DHCP server? (A PC, a hardware router?) Can you configure > it correctly for your network preferences? Is configuring your DHCP server with the DNS server address you want your clients to use possible? This would automate thi

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-24 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Those parameters are not part of "/etc/named.conf". Do you mean >> "/etc/resolv.conf"? ToddAndMargo: > Yes. That is embarrasing Don't forget to update your bugzilla entry, or they might close it. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.88.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Mar 7 15:41:52 UTC 2023 x86

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/23/23 19:55, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2023-04-23 at 16:51 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The last round altered the following: /etc/named.conf file is not a link, so should be left alone (and still not a link) Altered file: # Generated by NetworkManager sea

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-23 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2023-04-23 at 16:51 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > The last round altered the following: > > > /etc/named.conf > file is not a link, so should be left alone > (and still not a link) > > Altered file: ># Generated by NetworkManager >search netgear.com acme.loca

Re: Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 4/23/23 16:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: /etc/named.conf file is not a link, so should be left alone (and still not a link)    Altered file:   # Generated by NetworkManager   search netgear.com acme.local   # netgear.com ??   nameserver 192.168.250.1# address o

Last round of update nailed my networking

2023-04-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, How do I get updates to stop altering my network configuration? I use a local caching named server (named-chroot) The last round altered the following: /etc/named.conf file is not a link, so should be left alone (and still not a link) Altered file: # Generated by NetworkMana