Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Aaron Konstam
It is hard to know where to start with the problems with the use of the SysReg key.. Since acording to the Wikipedia notes in order to get these Magic SysReg features to work you have tp add the Ctrl button. So to reboot you would have to use the Ctrl+Alt+SysReg+ b button. On my workstation Keyboar

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Hiisi
On 20 August 2012 23:55, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It is hard to know where to start with the problems with the use of the <--SNIP--> > > So how does one use these magic keys ? > -- Could you please post the link to the wikipedia? -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://count

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/20/2012 12:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: It is hard to know where to start with the problems with the use of the SysReg key.. Since acording to the Wikipedia notes in order to get these Magic SysReg features to work you have tp add the Ctrl button. So to reboot you would have to use the Ctrl+

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 08/20/2012 12:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: It is hard to know where to start with the problems with the use of the SysReg key.. Since acording to the Wikipedia notes in order to get these Magic SysReg features to work you have tp add the Ctrl button. So to reboot you would have to use the Ctrl+

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 00:00 +0400, Hiisi wrote: > On 20 August 2012 23:55, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > It is hard to know where to start with the problems with the use of the > <--SNIP--> > > > > So how does one use these magic keys ? > > -- > > Could you please post the link to the wikipedia? > --

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/20/2012 01:05 PM, Joe Zeff uttered this comment: On 08/20/2012 12:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: It is hard to know where to start with the problems with the use of the SysReg key.. Since acording to the Wikipedia notes in order to get these Magic SysReg features to work you have tp add the C

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 13:05 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/20/2012 12:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > It is hard to know where to start with the problems with the use of the > > SysReg key.. Since acording to the Wikipedia notes in order to get these > > Magic SysReg features to work you have tp ad

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/20/2012 01:12 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: In non-graphical mode it's just Alt+SysRq (not Ctrl, and not Alt+Ctrl), but the GUI can choose to ignore the combination - there used to be some X keyboard setting you could set globally, but it doesn't work anymore. I think there's some workaround

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/20/2012 01:24 PM, Aaron Konstam uttered this comment: On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 13:05 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: On 08/20/2012 12:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: It is hard to know where to start with the problems with the use of the SysReg key.. Since acording to the Wikipedia notes in order to get

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 20 August 2012 21:24, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> I can't speak for anybody else, but when I've experimented with it, I >> used both hands. > Ok, it can be reached when you use both hands but it still does not work > for me. Does it matter which Ctrl key you use? Offtopic: Almost 20 years ago one o

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 20 August 2012 21:29, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: > to do CTRL-ALT-DEL, he fell off laughing when one of his students held > CTRL using one finger on one hand, ALT using an other finger on the > other hand and then hit the ALT using his nose... Of course, that should have been, CTRL, DEL and ALT in

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 13:26 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 08/20/2012 01:24 PM, Aaron Konstam uttered this comment: > > On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 13:05 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> On 08/20/2012 12:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > >>> It is hard to know where to start with the problems with the use of the

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/20/2012 01:20 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: It's supposed to be a simultaneous press of ALT, SYSRQ (or PRINTSCREEN) and the command key (B in your case). I've had good results from pressing the keys sequentially, but not releasing any of them until they're all pressed. YMMV, of course, but i

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/20/2012 01:24 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: Ok, it can be reached when you use both hands but it still does not work for me. Does it matter which Ctrl key you use? I've always used the left one. Just to be clear, in /etc/sysctl.conf I changed: kernel.sysrq to 1 from 0. If you've rebooted

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 13:20 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 08/20/2012 01:05 PM, Joe Zeff uttered this comment: > > On 08/20/2012 12:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > >> It is hard to know where to start with the problems with the use of the > >> SysReg key.. Since acording to the Wikipedia notes in or

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/20/2012 02:27 PM, Aaron Konstam uttered this comment: On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 13:20 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: On 08/20/2012 01:05 PM, Joe Zeff uttered this comment: On 08/20/2012 12:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: It is hard to know where to start with the problems with the use of the SysReg

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-20 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 21.08.2012, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-(version)/Documentation/sysrq.txt > I appreciate all these tips but none make the sysrq suctions work. I'll > just give up. 1. Look into your kernel .config if m-sysrq is in your kernel: CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y Standard Fedora k

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-21 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 07:55 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > Now press the right ALT key together with PrtScrn... With qualifier keys, such as CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, which change the behaviour of other keys (a becomes A, etc.), it's usually best to press the qualifier key first before the next key, so that

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-21 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 14:48 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 08/20/2012 02:27 PM, Aaron Konstam uttered this comment: > > On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 13:20 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> On 08/20/2012 01:05 PM, Joe Zeff uttered this comment: > >>> On 08/20/2012 12:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > It is

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/21/2012 01:27 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: First everyone seems to agree that it is the ALT button on the right that needs to be used Theree seems to be general agreement if you don't include the CTRL key only a snapshopt is genrqated the function is not executed. I got the same output as you d

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.08.2012 22:36, schrieb Joe Zeff: >> Just to be clear, in /etc/sysctl.conf I changed: kernel.sysrq to 1 from >> 0. > > If you've rebooted since doing that, you've turned it off why should reboot turn it off? /etc/sysctl.conf was, is and will always be for persistent settings signature.a

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-21 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 22.08.2012, Reindl Harald wrote: > why should reboot turn it off? Because he turned off the option in sysctl.conf, and a reboot will activate it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-22 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 15:27 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Theree seems to be general agreement if you don't include the CTRL key > only a snapshopt is genrqated the function is not executed. Depends on your user interface... If you're using something like Gnome, it's assigned its own function to

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-22 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 13:38 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/21/2012 01:27 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > First everyone seems to agree that it is the ALT button on the right > > that needs to be used Theree seems to be general agreement if you don't > > include the CTRL key only a snapshopt is genrqat

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-22 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 07:46 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 22.08.2012, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > why should reboot turn it off? > > Because he turned off the option in sysctl.conf, and a reboot will > activate it. > Huh, I turned it on not off. --

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-22 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 22:32 +0930, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 15:27 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Theree seems to be general agreement if you don't include the CTRL key > > only a snapshopt is genrqated the function is not executed. > > Depends on your user interface... If you're using

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-22 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 22.08.2012, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Huh, I turned it on not off. Yep, blame that one on me. Didn't read carefully enough :-\ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: h

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-22 Thread Rick Stevens
On 08/22/2012 06:20 AM, Aaron Konstam uttered this comment: On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 22:32 +0930, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 15:27 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Theree seems to be general agreement if you don't include the CTRL key only a snapshopt is genrqated the function is not executed.

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-22 Thread jdow
On 2012/08/22 06:02, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 15:27 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: Theree seems to be general agreement if you don't include the CTRL key only a snapshopt is genrqated the function is not executed. Depends on your user interface... If you're using something like Gnome, it

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/22/2012 02:17 PM, jdow wrote: Even with the reminders I've seen people keep forgetting that most modern keyboards are two key roll-over keyboards. The keys are matrix scanned in a fashion that any two keys pressed at the same time can be detected but more than two keys pressed at the same t

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-23 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Wednesday, 22. August 2012. 15.05.05 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/22/2012 02:17 PM, jdow wrote: > > Even with the reminders I've seen people keep forgetting that most > > modern keyboards are two key roll-over keyboards. The keys are matrix > > scanned in a fashion that any two keys pressed at the sa

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.08.2012 15:20, schrieb Aaron Konstam: > On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 22:32 +0930, Tim wrote: >> On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 15:27 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: >>> Theree seems to be general agreement if you don't include the CTRL key >>> only a snapshopt is genrqated the function is not executed. >> >> D

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.08.2012 15:13, schrieb Aaron Konstam: > Well please try b and let me know if the reboot occurs. The problem is b > is the only one where the results are obvious. I am willing to believe > that people see the output in dmesg or /var/log/messages, but they don't > really know if the action is

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-24 Thread fred smith
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 03:17:30PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 22.08.2012 15:13, schrieb Aaron Konstam: > > Well please try b and let me know if the reboot occurs. The problem is b > > is the only one where the results are obvious. I am willing to believe > > that people see the output i

Re: Magic Sysreg key problems.

2012-08-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 08/22/2012 06:26 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: i explained you in my last mail that CTRL+ALT+PRINT+B is plain stoopid, so nobody will do this - i CONFIRMED multiple times that STRG+ALT+PRINT+S does a sync, i hear the drives and i get messages in dmesg, /var/log/messages AND also in a ALT-F2 console