Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-17 Thread Luan Minh Pham
On Thursday, January 17, 2013 07:48:28 AM Phil Dobbin wrote: If FedUp is as unreliable as you say, it's a pretty serious bug that needs addressing as soon as possible. It more like server not totally sync yet. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-17 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 09:42:37PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 02:59:35AM +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: I would recommend not to use fedup. I'm facing a lot of troubles after going the fedup route. Although not officially supported, you could try upgrading via yum. It

Re: Fedup for LVM?

2013-01-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 09:02:23PM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: I haven't yet started to figure out a decent kickstart since supposedly that will get around the problem. Kickstart shouldn't present any capabilities that aren't present in Anaconda. Currently, it *does* present capabilities

Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/16/2013 08:59 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:41:41AM +, Phil Dobbin wrote: Hi, all. I've been watching the developments regarding everybody trying to upgrade via FedUp can anyone advise me whether issuing: 'sudo fedup-cli —network 18 —debuglog fedupdebug.log' is

Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-17 Thread Mark Eggers
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 07:26:33 -0500, Luan Minh Pham wrote: On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 09:42:37 PM Matthew Miller wrote: I would recommend not to use fedup. I'm facing a lot of troubles after going the fedup route. Although not officially supported, you could try upgrading via yum. It

Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.01.2013 17:29, schrieb Mark Eggers: One thing I did notice is that I'm running grub2-2.00-15.fc18.x86_64 (at least that's what RPM says) and I get the grub 2.00~beta4 screen on boot. Do I need to reinstall grub2? yes, as also if your /boot is RAID1 you have to take care by yourself

Re: fedup - httpd error

2013-01-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.01.2013 17:51, schrieb Steven Stern: Follow fedup, httpd no longer starts .. # httpd -S httpd: Syntax error on line 199 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load modules/mod_disk_cache.so into server: /etc/httpd/modules/mod_disk_cache.so: cannot open shared object

Re: fedup - httpd error

2013-01-17 Thread Steven Stern
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/17/2013 11:13 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 17.01.2013 17:51, schrieb Steven Stern: Follow fedup, httpd no longer starts .. # httpd -S httpd: Syntax error on line 199 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load

Re: fedup - httpd error

2013-01-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.01.2013 19:16, schrieb Steven Stern: you missed that F18 comes with Apache 2.4 which is a major upgrade after around 7 years since 2.2 and should be well tested and prepared on staging machines No, I saw it... I just didn't quite know what got removed and replaced. I have now

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/17/2013 01:06 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: One of the laptops I'm trying to upgrade to f18/x86_64 from f17/x86_64 is printing row after row of asterisks after it rebooted into the fedup boot environment. Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix or do I have to do a wipe/reinstall

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-17 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us writes: I must admit that your subject line gave me a major Stanley Kubrick moment. ;-) I had to get people to read the msg. Are there any signs of disk activity or is this all that happens? Not in the long run. There was some initially, but after a few seconds it

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 13:27 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/17/2013 01:06 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: One of the laptops I'm trying to upgrade to f18/x86_64 from f17/x86_64 is printing row after row of asterisks after it rebooted into the fedup boot environment. Has anyone seen this

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/17/2013 02:36 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Not in the long run. There was some initially, but after a few seconds it stopped. I let the installer run for half an hour or so, but all it did was print stars and run the fan at high speed doing its best hairdryer imitation. Thank you.

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 01:06:28PM -0800, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: One of the laptops I'm trying to upgrade to f18/x86_64 from f17/x86_64 is printing row after row of asterisks after it rebooted into the fedup boot environment. I think that's what it does when it's working. -- Matthew

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-17 Thread Phil Meyer
On 01/17/2013 02:06 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: One of the laptops I'm trying to upgrade to f18/x86_64 from f17/x86_64 is printing row after row of asterisks after it rebooted into the fedup boot environment. Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix or do I have to do a wipe/reinstall

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-17 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Phil Meyer pme...@themeyerfarm.com writes: On 01/17/2013 02:06 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: One of the laptops I'm trying to upgrade to f18/x86_64 from f17/x86_64 is printing row after row of asterisks after it rebooted into the fedup boot environment. Has anyone seen this before? Is

Re: fedup: it's full of stars

2013-01-17 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.01.2013 00:59, schrieb Wolfgang S. Rupprecht: Yes, happened to me. Its a Plymouth bug, I think. Caused by hitting ESC before Plymouth is ready for you to. :) Ah. That make sense. Thanks! That laptop is one of the two computers here that still have rhgb quiet appended to the boot

Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-16 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:41:41AM +, Phil Dobbin wrote: Hi, all. I've been watching the developments regarding everybody trying to upgrade via FedUp can anyone advise me whether issuing: 'sudo fedup-cli —network 18 —debuglog fedupdebug.log' is still the recommended way to approach

Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 02:59:35AM +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: I would recommend not to use fedup. I'm facing a lot of troubles after going the fedup route. Although not officially supported, you could try upgrading via yum. It has been reliably working for people across multiple releases. It

Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/17/2013 10:42 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 02:59:35AM +0100, Suvayu Ali wrote: I would recommend not to use fedup. I'm facing a lot of troubles after going the fedup route. Although not officially supported, you could try upgrading via yum. It has been reliably

Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:47:54AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Quick question in respect to this Would you expect fedup to work in a Virtual Machine (Vbox) environment? I've had 2 failed updates, out of 2, but both were in a Vbox machine and both had a 3rd party MATE repository enabled.

Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 01/17/2013 10:50 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:47:54AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Quick question in respect to this Would you expect fedup to work in a Virtual Machine (Vbox) environment? I've had 2 failed updates, out of 2, but both were in a Vbox machine and both

Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/16/2013 06:42 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: It would be very helpful if you could report those troubles. Otherwise, it's hard to make it better. And, unless people report these things, the devs won't know there's anything wrong. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Fedup for LVM?

2013-01-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/16/2013 05:33 AM, Steve Berg wrote: From what I've read it seems that the anaconda in F18 will not be able to deal with this setup like previous anaconda's. Anaconda doesn't do upgrades anymore. Other than that, if you linked to what you'd read, it would help explain any issues that

Re: FedUp: best plan?

2013-01-16 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 01/17/2013 01:59 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:41:41AM +, Phil Dobbin wrote: Hi, all. I've been watching the developments regarding everybody trying to upgrade via FedUp can anyone advise me whether issuing: 'sudo fedup-cli —network 18 —debuglog fedupdebug.log'

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-18 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 17:11 -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: that means this technology you speak of is OLDER than I am!...LoL! Every now and then, while I'm doing something work related (I work in video production), I like to point out to them how some of the equipment I'm using on the job

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-18 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 16:28 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: Hey, you kids... Get off my lawn. Yes, we had Google back then. See: http://www.masswerk.at/google60/ I've still got a few paper cards floating around. I don't have the punch cards, though, but the type where you colour in the bubbles

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-18 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 12/18/2012 03:14 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 17:11 -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: that means this technology you speak of is OLDER than I am!...LoL! Every now and then, while I'm doing something work related (I work in video production), I like to point out to them how some of

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-18 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 12/18/2012 03:21 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 16:28 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: Hey, you kids... Get off my lawn. Yes, we had Google back then. See: http://www.masswerk.at/google60/ I've still got a few paper cards floating around. I don't have the punch cards, though, but the

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-18 Thread Edik Landaveri
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 08:52:55PM -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 12/17/2012 06:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/17/2012 03:13 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 12/17/2012 05:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/17/2012 02:40 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Indeed!?I only JUST recently got

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-17 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/17/2012 03:30 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/16/2012 07:12 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: OMG!...incredible! Why? Granted, it was back in 1968, but the computer I was working on (IBM 1620, MOD 2) was already outdated, and nearly obsolete. My brother (he's eleven years older than I

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 12/16/2012 10:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/16/2012 07:12 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: OMG!...incredible! Why? Granted, it was back in 1968, but the computer I was working on (IBM 1620, MOD 2) was already outdated, and nearly obsolete. Sorry! I'm just amazed!because I was

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-17 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/17/2012 04:11 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 12/16/2012 10:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/16/2012 07:12 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: OMG!...incredible! Why? Granted, it was back in 1968, but the computer I was working on (IBM 1620, MOD 2) was already outdated, and nearly

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 12/17/2012 03:38 AM, Phil Dobbin wrote: On 12/17/2012 03:30 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/16/2012 07:12 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: OMG!...incredible! Why? Granted, it was back in 1968, but the computer I was working on (IBM 1620, MOD 2) was already outdated, and nearly obsolete.

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/17/2012 02:40 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Indeed!?I only JUST recently got my 67 year old Mum to install and USE Fuduntu Linux on her old Dell Inspirion... If I weren't so interested in personal survival, I'd forward this to my older sister. Guess how old she is... -- users

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 12/17/2012 05:28 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/17/2012 04:11 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 12/16/2012 10:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/16/2012 07:12 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: OMG!...incredible! Why? Granted, it was back in 1968, but the computer I was working on (IBM

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 12/17/2012 05:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/17/2012 02:40 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Indeed!?I only JUST recently got my 67 year old Mum to install and USE Fuduntu Linux on her old Dell Inspirion... If I weren't so interested in personal survival, I'd forward this to my older

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/17/2012 03:13 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 12/17/2012 05:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/17/2012 02:40 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Indeed!?I only JUST recently got my 67 year old Mum to install and USE Fuduntu Linux on her old Dell Inspirion... If I weren't so interested

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-17 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/17/2012 11:02 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 12/17/2012 05:28 PM, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/17/2012 04:11 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 12/16/2012 10:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/16/2012 07:12 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: OMG!...incredible! Why? Granted, it was

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-17 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 12/17/2012 06:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/17/2012 03:13 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 12/17/2012 05:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/17/2012 02:40 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: Indeed!?I only JUST recently got my 67 year old Mum to install and USE Fuduntu Linux on her old Dell

Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-16 Thread Fedora User
What problem in preupgrade does it seek to solve and how does it solve it? I have read the documentation and that question doesn't seem to be answered. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2012-12-16 at 16:59 -0500, Fedora User wrote: What problem in preupgrade does it seek to solve and how does it solve it? I have read the documentation and that question doesn't seem to be answered. http://ohjeezlinux.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/fedup-a-little-background/ (this link

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/16/2012 02:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: http://ohjeezlinux.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/fedup-a-little-background/ (this link is referenced on the Fedup Wiki page). Thanx. Alas, the first paragraph contains a gross error that tells me just how young the author is: in the beginning,

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 02:34:19PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/16/2012 02:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: http://ohjeezlinux.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/fedup-a-little-background/ (this link is referenced on the Fedup Wiki page). Thanx. Alas, the first paragraph contains a gross error that

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-16 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 12/16/2012 04:59 PM, Fedora User wrote: What problem in preupgrade does it seek to solve and how does it solve it? I have read the documentation and that question doesn't seem to be answered. I'm not sure if there's a SIMPLE problembut I remember using preUpgrade to go from F16 to F17

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 17.12.2012 02:04, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: I'm not sure if there's a SIMPLE problembut I remember using preUpgrade to go from F16 to F17 and there seemed to be an issue with it after the upgrade was complete. I would try to login after restarting and I got an error message

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-16 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/16/2012 10:34 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/16/2012 02:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: http://ohjeezlinux.wordpress.com/2012/11/13/fedup-a-little-background/ (this link is referenced on the Fedup Wiki page). Thanx. Alas, the first paragraph contains a gross error that tells me just

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/16/2012 05:15 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: Age is irrelevant when quantifying competence or skill nor should it be (you'd feel peeved I should imagine if somebody referred to you similarly because you first installed Linux from a floppy). I'm not saying that he's wrong or not competent and,

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-16 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 12/16/2012 08:29 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/16/2012 05:15 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: Age is irrelevant when quantifying competence or skill nor should it be (you'd feel peeved I should imagine if somebody referred to you similarly because you first installed Linux from a floppy). I'm not

Re: Simple Question Re: FedUp

2012-12-16 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/16/2012 07:12 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: OMG!...incredible! Why? Granted, it was back in 1968, but the computer I was working on (IBM 1620, MOD 2) was already outdated, and nearly obsolete. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change

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