Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-11-01 Thread Ranbir
On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 16:45 +, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > There is already a Fedora instance running, although topics are > limited: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org Holy shit, no. Look at how ugly and distracting it all is. That being said, I do have to read forums like that for some of the

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-31 Thread Robbi Nespu
Seem CommOps are replacing mail list with Discourse https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/welcome-to-community-operations-commops-category-on-fedora-discourse/495 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to use

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-24 Thread stan
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 08:42:44 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I am using Discourse with Nethserver.  It **DOES** have an email > interface!  I receive an email for each posting tagged in the subject > for which sub-forum it is associated with.  I CAN respond directly > via email, but it does tak

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-24 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 06:56:09PM -0700, stan wrote: Silverblue is the new name, only recently changed, for atomic host, Fedora's containerized OS. My understanding is that this is mostly for cloud usage. I don't think so:: "By F30, the Atomic variant will be the preferred Workstation of

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
My $0.02 tossed into the fire I have not followed this thread and do not know if I will read everything that has occurred since this first post and now. I started on email in '92 with mcimail to interact with the IETF to work on the TN3270E project.  Got my domain name in '95.  Loved Eudo

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-24 Thread Bob Marcan
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:49:38 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-23 at 07:28 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > Discourse has very good RSS support and I've been testing the feeds for > > several weeks now. That feature > > works quite well - and keeps you from cluttering your inbox

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-23 Thread Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco
El sáb., 20 de oct. de 2018 a la(s) 16:02, stan (stanl-fedorau...@vfemail.net) escribió: > > Hi, > There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum > software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. The idea is that > it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging youn

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 12:03:31PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > Forums provide a fixed, and IMO, usually poor web based interface > with suboptimal coposition tools (the web form, or occasionally some > ghastly WYSYWIG rich text editor) with no options for people to pick > their own. > > Forums

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-23 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:50 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-23 at 07:28 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > Discourse has very good RSS support and I've been testing the feeds for > > several weeks now. That feature > > works quite well - and keeps you from cluttering your inbox wit

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2018-10-23 at 07:28 -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > Discourse has very good RSS support and I've been testing the feeds for > several weeks now. That feature > works quite well - and keeps you from cluttering your inbox with postings - > while still providing the content > and a simply way t

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-23 Thread stan
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 09:41:44 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > Tim via users wrote: > > On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 18:56 -0700, stan wrote: > >> I wasn't clear.  The link isn't to any potential replacement for > >> the users list. > > > > Oh really? What's the subject line for this thread say? And

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-23 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 12:49 AM Berend De Schouwer < berend.de.schou...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 20:14 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > On 10/22/18 5:27 PM, SternData wrote: > > > > > I'm OK with a web forum as long as it has an RSS feed. > > > > You might not be aware about it,

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-23 Thread Todd Zullinger
Tim via users wrote: > On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 18:56 -0700, stan wrote: >> I wasn't clear.  The link isn't to any potential replacement for the >> users list. > > Oh really? What's the subject line for this thread say? And the > content of the first message. This thread that you started... (At t

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-23 Thread Berend De Schouwer
On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 20:14 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 10/22/18 5:27 PM, SternData wrote: > > > I'm OK with a web forum as long as it has an RSS feed. > > You might not be aware about it, but RSS is effectivly dead, IIRC, > because major browsers soon will drop supporting RSS or already

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-23 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 10/21/2018 12:55 AM, Stephen Perkins wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:01 PM stan wrote: >> Would you willingly or >> reluctantly migrate to the new platform? >> > > Neither. If this list disappears, I will too. I would disappear too, having been a subscriber since 2005 is probably enough.

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2018-10-22 at 18:56 -0700, stan wrote: > I wasn't clear.  The link isn't to any potential replacement for the > users list. Oh really? What's the subject line for this thread say? And the content of the first message. This thread that you started... Who are you, the Iraqi minister for

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread stan
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 22:04:28 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > Silverblue is the name for using some of our designed-for-cloud-usage > technologies for a desktop operating system. You can read more about > it here: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/ I want to compliment you on

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 06:56:09PM -0700, stan wrote: > Silverblue is the new name, only recently changed, for atomic host, > Fedora's containerized OS. My understanding is that this is mostly for > cloud usage. It sounds neat, but is still in early days, though there Silverblue is the name for

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread stan
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:30:33 -0700 "Doug H." wrote: > I have been doing some reading at https://discussion.fedoraproject.org > > It is as if it is a totally different list compared to this list. I > had not even heard of Silverblue until reading there. Seems like a > good percentage of the contr

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/22/18 2:30 PM, Doug H. wrote: I have been doing some reading at https://discussion.fedoraproject.org It is as if it is a totally different list compared to this list. I had not even heard of Silverblue until reading there. Seems like a good percentage of the contributors are using it. Ther

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/22/18 11:14 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: You might not be aware about it, but RSS is effectivly dead, IIRC, because major browsers soon will drop supporting RSS or already dropped it. There are extensions for the browsers to add RSS support. The browser developers just don't want to have t

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Doug H.
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 14:42 -0700, stan wrote: > Hi, > There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum > software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. The idea is that > it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger > people > raised on social media and mo

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/22/2018 02:18 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: This was my first and only post on this list.  I was providing information to correct some fallacies previously mentioned.  I have never attempted to silence someone who had a different opinion.  Again you should read the code of conduct and stop try

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 17:08 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/22/2018 01:53 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:17:24 -0600 > > Joe Zeff wrote: > > > >> If you want a web forum so badly, start one and see if anybody > >> joins, but continuing to try to persuade everybody here to change > >>

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/22/2018 01:53 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:17:24 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: If you want a web forum so badly, start one and see if anybody joins, but continuing to try to persuade everybody here to change over is a waste of time. Just give it a rest and get on with your lif

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Dave Stevens
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 11:17:24 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > If you want a web forum so badly, start one and see if anybody > joins, but continuing to try to persuade everybody here to change > over is a waste of time. Just give it a rest and get on with your > life. I dunno Joe, the OP asked about op

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 14:18 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 10/22/2018 10:45 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > There is already a Fedora instance running, although topics are limited: > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org > > Here is the Discourse support forum:https://meta.discourse.org/ > > Here is Mozilla's:

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 12:46:20PM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > >Note that while there is no active proposal to switch this mailing list to > >Discourse, there*is* exactly that for Ask Fedora. The AskBot software is > >not really actively developed (and has no community around development). > I use th

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/22/2018 12:15 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Note that while there is no active proposal to switch this mailing list to Discourse, there*is* exactly that for Ask Fedora. The AskBot software is not really actively developed (and has no community around development). I use that forum daily, and

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread SternData
On 10/22/18 1:14 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 10/22/18 5:27 PM, SternData wrote: > >> I'm OK with a web forum as long as it has an RSS feed. > > You might not be aware about it, but RSS is effectivly dead, IIRC, > because major browsers soon will drop supporting RSS or already dropped it. > >

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Bob Marcan
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:17:08 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 > stan wrote: > > > I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > > list feel about that. > > There is already a fedoraforum which I don't use at all because > I despise forums b

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/22/18 5:27 PM, SternData wrote: I'm OK with a web forum as long as it has an RSS feed. You might not be aware about it, but RSS is effectivly dead, IIRC, because major browsers soon will drop supporting RSS or already dropped it. Ralf ___ u

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 09:20:59AM -, Federico Bruni wrote: > As pointed out by others, another active and modern forum exists already: > https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/questions/ Note that while there is no active proposal to switch this mailing list to Discourse, there *is* exactly that fo

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/22/2018 10:45 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: There is already a Fedora instance running, although topics are limited:https://discussion.fedoraproject.org Here is the Discourse support forum:https://meta.discourse.org/ Here is Mozilla's:https://discourse.mozilla.org/ If you prefer using an email

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Gerald B. Cox
There appear to be a few misconceptions here on how Discourse works or I'm misunderstanding the replies. 1. There are notifications - which mean a thread you are subscribed to or new topics are either sent to your email or an RSS feed or both. 2. There is mailing-list mode, which allows you to

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread SternData
On 10/20/18 4:42 PM, stan wrote: > Hi, > There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum > software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. The idea is that > it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger people > raised on social media and mobile platforms t

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 22 October 2018, Federico Bruni sent: > Given the replies so far, my opinion is that this list should not > switch to Discourse. Likewise. I imagine some confusion with *some* people not understanding why we would want to keep a mailing list is probably with those people wh

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-22 Thread Federico Bruni
> I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > list feel about that. Which would you prefer? Unfortunately, it's an > either / or proposal, because there is no interface in Discourse for > emails from an email list to be put in their forums, though they do > have email n

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/22/18 4:13 AM, Robbi Nespu wrote: On 10/21/18 5:42 AM, stan wrote: The idea is that it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger people raised on social media and mobile platforms to contribute. Young people tend to use social media such twitter and facebook but having

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/21/2018 07:58 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/21/18 5:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/21/2018 05:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The forums only work if you only subscribe to ONE forum and make it your browser's home page. I'm subscribed to three support forums that I check pr

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Robbi Nespu
On 10/21/18 5:42 AM, stan wrote: > The idea is that > it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger people > raised on social media and mobile platforms to contribute. Young people tend to use social media such twitter and facebook but having forum board would be fun too. It ea

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/21/18 5:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/21/2018 05:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The forums only work if you only subscribe to ONE forum and make it your browser's home page. I'm subscribed to three support forums that I check pretty much daily and none of them are my browser's home

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 19:01, stan wrote: > Hi, > There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum > software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. The idea is that > it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger people > raised on social media and mobile

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/21/2018 05:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The forums only work if you only subscribe to ONE forum and make it your browser's home page. I'm subscribed to three support forums that I check pretty much daily and none of them are my browser's home page. You may need that constant re

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/18 3:57 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:35 PM Mike Wright > wrote: On 10/20/18 3:17 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 > stan wrote: > >> I'm wondering how the people who regularly use

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/20/18 3:17 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 stan wrote: I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing list feel about that. There is already a fedoraforum which I don't use at all because I despise forums because they are nothing like as us

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Marcel J.E. Mol
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 12:20:14PM -0600, Peter Reed wrote: > > Hello, > > Short answer: no. > > Longer answer: > I have been using the Fedora mailing lists since Fedora Core 2. I have > spent time setting up mail programs to sort all incoming email lists > into nice, neat categories that are ea

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/21/2018 03:25 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Haven't found who wrote the code for the site, yet - but whoever did it: compliments: Minimal js - Signing in with, IIRC, a google account, FB etc. seems being no effort ... They're using the Askbot code from askbot.org. It keeps all of the an

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/21/18 2:25 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 01:05:57PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ Wow - looks good. Signed up, and in. Thanks .. :) Haven't found who wrote the code for the site, yet - but whoever did it: compliments: Minimal js - Signi

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 01:05:57PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ Wow - looks good. Signed up, and in. Thanks .. :) Haven't found who wrote the code for the site, yet - but whoever did it: compliments: Minimal js - Signing in with, IIRC, a google account, FB etc. see

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/21/18 11:58 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:21:16AM -0700, stan wrote: It's not surprising that those on the mailing list are so opposed to a web forum; we have all self selected as preferring email lists.  As you say, a web forum would let those who prefer web foru

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Beartooth
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 11:21:16 -0700, stan wrote: [] > It's not surprising that those on the mailing list are so opposed to a > web forum; we have all self selected as preferring email lists. As you > say, a web forum would let those who prefer web forums have their > preference. We wo

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:21:16AM -0700, stan wrote: It's not surprising that those on the mailing list are so opposed to a web forum; we have all self selected as preferring email lists. As you say, a web forum would let those who prefer web forums have their preference. We won't know how vi

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread stan
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:52:20 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > But that said, I don't see any reason why there could not be > a users forum and an email list co-existing. Clearly, some > people prefer forums while other prefer email. Helping > users of Fedora in whatever format they prefer seems >

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Peter Reed
Hello, Short answer: no. Longer answer: I have been using the Fedora mailing lists since Fedora Core 2. I have spent time setting up mail programs to sort all incoming email lists into nice, neat categories that are easy to read through. They don't need a damn browser that has become a bloated c

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 10/20/18 11:42 PM, stan wrote: Hi, There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. The idea is that it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger people raised on social media and mobile platforms to contr

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 11:15 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 08:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > Are you aware that is already the case for this mailing list? > > > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
. Why is it that whenever they have something that works well Linux people want to change it? This mailing list is an important feature of Fedora Linux. From my experience forums are a major step backward! Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-2

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 06:35:35AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/21/18 5:42 AM, stan wrote: I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing list feel about that. I would simply stop contributing. + 1000 Wolfgang ___ users mail

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Todd Zullinger
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 08:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Are you aware that is already the case for this mailing list? >> >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/ > > That in my view is the perfect argument for not doing this. Hel

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 14:42 -0700, stan wrote: > There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum > software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. I won't use them, at all. I don't participate in any of them. I've looked at some when googling for answers, hated every one of

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Joakim Forøysund
I was unfamiliar with mailing lists until I joined Fedora. I used to think it’s old fashioned until I registered. Mailing lists indeed have their strengths above forums. With mailing lists I scroll through all topics. I second what’s already said about not visiting forums. There are plenty of forum

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Tom Horsley writes: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 stan wrote: > I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > list feel about that. There is already a fedoraforum which I don't use at all because I despise forums because they are nothing like as useful as mailing l

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 08:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/21/18 7:52 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > But that said, I don't see any reason why there could not be > > a users forum and an email list co-existing. > > Are you aware that is already the case for this mailing list? > > https://lists.f

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-21 Thread ja
On Sat, 2018-10-20 at 18:59 -0400, Stephen Perkins wrote: > On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:56 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > On 10/21/18 5:42 AM, stan wrote: > > > I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > > > list feel about that. > > > > I would simply stop contributing. >

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 10/20/18 9:03 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 20Oct2018 18:55, Stephen Perkins wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:01 PM stan wrote: Would you willingly or reluctantly migrate to the new platform? Neither.  If this list disappears, I will too. Likewise. And another likewise

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 20Oct2018 18:55, Stephen Perkins wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:01 PM stan wrote: Would you willingly or reluctantly migrate to the new platform? Neither. If this list disappears, I will too. Likewise. Unless the forum provides a bidirectional gateway with the existing mailing list,

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/21/18 8:40 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 10/21/18 7:52 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: >>> But that said, I don't see any reason why there could not be >>> a users forum and an email list co-existing. >> Are you aware that is already the case for this mailing list? >> >> https

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 10/21/18 7:52 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> But that said, I don't see any reason why there could not be >> a users forum and an email list co-existing. > > Are you aware that is already the case for this mailing list? > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/21/18 7:52 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > But that said, I don't see any reason why there could not be > a users forum and an email list co-existing. Are you aware that is already the case for this mailing list? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/ --

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Todd Zullinger
Leander Hutton wrote: > Discourse, Discord or Slack are what everyone seem to be clustering > around these days. The main thing I like about mailing lists and even to > some extent IRC is it's a bit more decentralized and is easily locally > archived. They're also built around a standard or protoco

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Todd Zullinger
stan wrote: > I'm wondering how the people who regularly use > fedora-users mailing list feel about that. Which would > you prefer? Forums have never been something I care for. Anything which forces its choice of interface upon me is something I don't use joyfully. But that said, I don't see an

Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Leander Hutton
On 10/20/18 5:42 PM, stan wrote: > I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > list feel about that. Which would you prefer? Unfortunately, it's an > either / or proposal, because there is no interface in Discourse for > emails from an email list to be put in their forum

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Stephen Perkins
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:56 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 10/21/18 5:42 AM, stan wrote: > > I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > > list feel about that. > > I would simply stop contributing. > And that is why I would be leaving. Your contributions have helped me,

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Fulko Hew
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:35 PM Mike Wright wrote: > On 10/20/18 3:17 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 > > stan wrote: > > > >> I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > >> list feel about that. > > > > There is already a fedoraforum which

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Stephen Perkins
>On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:01 PM stan wrote: >Would you willingly or > reluctantly migrate to the new platform? > Neither. If this list disappears, I will too. __ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/21/18 5:42 AM, stan wrote: > I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > list feel about that. I would simply stop contributing. -- Cardinal Rule of Presentations: "Tell them what you are going to tell them, tell them, then tell them what you told them."

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread William Oliver
This comes up occasionally on another list I belong to. The dynamic of a forum and a mailinglist are very different, mostly because one is push and one is pull. With a forum, you have to *go* to the site, which means that folk who are peripherally interested will just stop looking unless they hav

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Mike Wright
On 10/20/18 3:17 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 stan wrote: I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing list feel about that. There is already a fedoraforum which I don't use at all because I despise forums because they are nothing like as us

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 stan wrote: > I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing > list feel about that. There is already a fedoraforum which I don't use at all because I despise forums because they are nothing like as useful as mailing lists. _

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread Mark C. Allman
On 10/20/18 5:42 PM, stan wrote: > Hi, > There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum > software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. The idea is that > it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger people > raised on social media and mobile platforms

Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

2018-10-20 Thread stan
Hi, There's a big mail thread on fedora-devel about using a web forum software called Discourse instead of mailing lists. The idea is that it would invigorate the Fedora community by encouraging younger people raised on social media and mobile platforms to contribute. One of the targets they have