Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2023-11-18 at 12:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 13:52 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at > > 8am, > > yet nothing in the cron configuration is telling it to do that and > > I > > don't see

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 13:52 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at 8am, > yet nothing in the cron configuration is telling it to do that and I > don't see anything obvious in the journal to cause it. > > How can I figure out what is

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2023-11-17 at 14:50 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Roger Heflin wrote: > > > No, we both mean use the bios timed wake up to wake up your > > > machine > > > instead of the plug for anything. > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > Ah, I misunderstood. I hadn't realised that was even possible. > >

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 17:47 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > I checked a mb bios from 10 years ago and it is in it. > > And I checked a 2 year old one and both have it. > Yes, I just verified that mine has it (and it's around 10 years old). > RTC Alarm Power On > Allow the system to be waked up by

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Tim via users
Roger Heflin wrote: >> No, we both mean use the bios timed wake up to wake up your machine >> instead of the plug for anything. Patrick O'Callaghan: > Ah, I misunderstood. I hadn't realised that was even possible. Way back in the day of my brief torture of Win98SE, I used to explore the BIOS to

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Roger Heflin
I checked a mb bios from 10 years ago and it is in it. And I checked a 2 year old one and both have it. RTC Alarm Power On Allow the system to be waked up by the real time clock alarm. Set it to By OS to let it be handled by your operating system. web page for setting the timer from linux:

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 16:25 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > No, we both mean use the bios timed wake up to wake up your machine > instead of the plug for anything. Ah, I misunderstood. I hadn't realised that was even possible. For now, I've factory reset the plug and will see what happens tomorrow

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Roger Heflin
No, we both mean use the bios timed wake up to wake up your machine instead of the plug for anything. On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 4:14 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 19:09 +0100, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > > > > Am 16.11.23 um 14:39 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > > > On

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 14:13 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/16/23 04:03, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I had installed this thing as a simple solution to waking up the > > hibernating machine without having to futz around with Wake On Lan, > > which I have no experience with and which

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 19:09 +0100, Ralf Corsépius wrote: > > > Am 16.11.23 um 14:39 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: > > On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 07:08 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > > > You might look in the bios.  Some of the bioses have an option to > > > turn on at a specific time each day. > > > >

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/16/23 04:03, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I had installed this thing as a simple solution to waking up the hibernating machine without having to futz around with Wake On Lan, which I have no experience with and which apparently can be flaky depending on what the BIOS supports. A more

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Ralf Corsépius
Am 16.11.23 um 14:39 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 07:08 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: You might look in the bios.  Some of the bioses have an option to turn on at a specific time each day. The plug has no accessible BIOS, if that's what you mean. I guess, the OP meant

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 11:04 -0500, Go Canes wrote: > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 8:43 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > I've emailed the manufacturer (TP-Link), though without much > > expectation of a reply. > > > > If it is as you say, it's a design fault. The power cycle is a > > definite > >

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Go Canes
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 8:43 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I've emailed the manufacturer (TP-Link), though without much > expectation of a reply. > > If it is as you say, it's a design fault. The power cycle is a definite > Off, wait a second or so, then On. I have TP-Link KASA EP10 smart

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 07:15 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > Given it is the same time each day, I am guessing "feature" rather > than bug. > > It may also be that the power plug resets/reboots itself once a day > and that the reboot does a quick power blip that is quick enough to > not matter for

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 07:08 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > You might look in the bios.  Some of the bioses have an option to > turn on at a specific time each day. The plug has no accessible BIOS, if that's what you mean. poc ___ users mailing list --

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Roger Heflin
Given it is the same time each day, I am guessing "feature" rather than bug. It may also be that the power plug resets/reboots itself once a day and that the reboot does a quick power blip that is quick enough to not matter for non-computer devices. Device makers love to find and implement

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Roger Heflin
You might look in the bios. Some of the bioses have an option to turn on at a specific time each day. On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 4:00 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 15:10 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 11/15/23 15:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Wed, 2023-11-15

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 22:15 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 09:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Seriously though, in the end I did watch it with hibernation > > disabled, > > and sure enough the "smart" power plug turned itself off and on > > again > > at 08:00. > > >

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 09:59 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Seriously though, in the end I did watch it with hibernation disabled, > and sure enough the "smart" power plug turned itself off and on again > at 08:00. > > I've checked and rechecked the settings on the thing, and it > positively,

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 15:46 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Tim: > > > Strategic attack kittens? > > > > > > But being serious, is the hardware clock set correctly? > > Patrick O'Callaghan: > > As reported by hwclock, yes > > > > Is everything else fine at 8?  You're not getting a mains power

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 21:53 -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: > > On 11/15/23 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > On 11/15/23 15:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:20 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > > > >

Re: Strange daily reboot - SOLVED

2023-11-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 15:10 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/15/23 15:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:20 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning > > > > at > > >

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Strategic attack kittens? >> >> But being serious, is the hardware clock set correctly? Patrick O'Callaghan: > As reported by hwclock, yes > Is everything else fine at 8? You're not getting a mains power dive from something else coming on via a timer? -- uname -rsvp Linux

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Robert Nichols
On 11/15/23 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/15/23 15:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:20 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at 8am, yet nothing in the cron configuration

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 15:02 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > You might try not doing a hibernate and see if it still goes at 8am. > That way you at least know it is not related to hibernate. > I'll do that. I've looked over historical journal entries and this behaviour started around the end of July.

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/15/23 15:02, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:20 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at 8am, yet nothing in the cron configuration is telling it to do that and I don't see

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 23:02 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:20 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at > > > 8am, > > > yet nothing in the cron configuration is

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 14:20 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at > > 8am, > > yet nothing in the cron configuration is telling it to do that and > > I > > don't see anything obvious in the

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/14/23 05:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at 8am, yet nothing in the cron configuration is telling it to do that and I don't see anything obvious in the journal to cause it. How can I figure out what is triggering this? I know

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2023-11-16 at 05:12 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 12:17 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Either way, the forced boot still happens at 08:00 and not after a > > 10-minute timeout, so the mystery continues. > > Strategic attack kittens? > > But being serious, is

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Roger Heflin
You might try not doing a hibernate and see if it still goes at 8am. That way you at least know it is not related to hibernate. Cron, or something in the bios. I would have thought that if you had the bios set to power up the node at time X then it would be smart enough not to reboot/recycle the

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2023-11-15 at 12:17 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Either way, the forced boot still happens at 08:00 and not after a > 10-minute timeout, so the mystery continues. Strategic attack kittens? But being serious, is the hardware clock set correctly? -- NB: All unexpected mail to

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 10:36 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > That is not a reboot.   That is a crash/power off or something else. > > You might move your wake up the machine to say 7:40 and see if the > machine still does it at 8am or then does it at 7:50 (10 min after > reboot). > > If it does it

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 10:36 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > That is not a reboot.   That is a crash/power off or something else. > > You might move your wake up the machine to say 7:40 and see if the > machine still does it at 8am or then does it at 7:50 (10 min after > reboot). > > If it does it

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-14 Thread Roger Heflin
That is not a reboot. That is a crash/power off or something else. You might move your wake up the machine to say 7:40 and see if the machine still does it at 8am or then does it at 7:50 (10 min after reboot). If it does it 10 minutes after reboot that is often the default for the watchdog

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-11-14 at 14:26 +, Barry wrote: > > > > On 14 Nov 2023, at 13:52, Patrick O'Callaghan > > wrote: > > > > My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at > > 8am, > > yet nothing in the cron configuration is telling it to do that and > > I > > don't see

Re: Strange daily reboot

2023-11-14 Thread Barry
> On 14 Nov 2023, at 13:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at 8am, > yet nothing in the cron configuration is telling it to do that and I > don't see anything obvious in the journal to cause it. > > How can I figure out what is

Strange daily reboot

2023-11-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
My system (both F38 and now F39) reboots itself every morning at 8am, yet nothing in the cron configuration is telling it to do that and I don't see anything obvious in the journal to cause it. How can I figure out what is triggering this? I know the description is vague, but there it is. poc