On 09/06/2011 12:38 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On a side note, all too many of the devs either expect everybody else
to know how to program as well as they do, or use the comment If you
don't like it, why don't you fix it yourself? as a putdown to the
rest of us who don't agree with what they've
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 11:53 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/05/2011 11:37 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I have
not had the time, but my next step to salvage this piece of equipment is
to use kde or one of the other gui's.
My desktop is maxed out at 1 Gig, and I'm not in the position to buy a
On 09/06/2011 11:48 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I took your advice, and installed XFCE on F15 and it is working better
than great. Very fast, very intuitive, and the users were very pleased.
So far no crashes or white screens.
I'm glad it worked for you. One of the great things about Linux
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 08:18 +0200, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
On 09/02/2011 04:25 AM, Peter G. wrote:
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3.
Boo hoo.
He is not alone
I agree, there are a lot of us that would like
On 02/09/11 02:14, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?
Hopefully by then gnome3 will be fully baked.
You
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 09/05/2011 10:24 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
The
hardware requirements for F15 make a lot of equipment unusable;
Is it the hardware requirements for F15 or for Gnome 3 that are causing
the problem? In the latter case, the
On Mon, 2011-09-05 at 19:47 +0200, suvayu ali wrote:
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 09/05/2011 10:24 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
The
hardware requirements for F15 make a lot of equipment unusable;
Is it the hardware requirements for F15 or for Gnome 3
On 5 September 2011 18:24, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote:
I agree, there are a lot of us that would like to extend F14.
This is impossible. Developers are already working at 100% just to try
and get F16 out of the door. If they have spare time, they try to do
F15 updates at the same
On 09/05/2011 11:37 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I have
not had the time, but my next step to salvage this piece of equipment is
to use kde or one of the other gui's.
My desktop is maxed out at 1 Gig, and I'm not in the position to buy a
new one. (Aside from that limitation, it works just
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote:
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 08:18 +0200, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
On 09/02/2011 04:25 AM, Peter G. wrote:
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3.
Boo
On 09/05/2011 11:47 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
If there were more people helping out with QA
and backporting patches then I'm sure most developers would let people
do the updates for them, but the reality is nobody is willing to do
the work.
As I've mentioned before, I haven't done any
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:55:56 -0700
Robert Arkiletian rob...@gmail.com wrote:
Well let's be realistic. An extra 6 months of *only* security updates
would be super. Time enough for F17
...snip...
Simply put it's just too much change for my use case and my comfort
level at work.
But don't
On 09/05/2011 11:55 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
XFCE is a viable option but, in all honesty,
it's a step backwards from gnome2.
How long has it been since you've tried it? F14 comes with 4.6, F15 and
up with 4.8, the most recent version. If you haven't used it in several
years, give it a
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:55:56 -0700
Robert Arkiletian rob...@gmail.com wrote:
Well let's be realistic. An extra 6 months of *only* security updates
would be super. Time enough for F17
...snip...
Simply put it's just too
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 09/05/2011 11:55 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
XFCE is a viable option but, in all honesty,
it's a step backwards from gnome2.
How long has it been since you've tried it? F14 comes with 4.6, F15 and
up with 4.8, the most recent
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Robert Arkiletian rob...@gmail.com wrote:
gnome3 is an issue for ME because I introduced Linux to my school
populace 6 years ago. Students and staff have associated gnome2 with
Linux. They slowly got used to it. Now if I put gnome3 in front of
them, I can just
On 09/05/2011 12:24 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
Yeah, I did notice F15 comes with XFCE 4.8. Is it all that different from 4.6?
I've upgraded my laptop, but not my desktop as yet. There are,
actually, some improvements. One problem with 4.6 is that the only menu
editor must be run as root,
On 09/05/2011 02:55 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Gregory P. Ennis po...@pomec.net wrote:
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 08:18 +0200, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
On 09/02/2011 04:25 AM, Peter G. wrote:
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I
On 9/2/2011 1:17 PM, Wade Hampton wrote:
I agree with those asking to extend F14. Extending
support will allow more time to fix F16 to better address
the GUI issues with Gnome 3, hopefully.
Cheers,
--
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H*ll yes! Where can I vote?
I absolutely can *NOT* use F15 or F16 as my
On 09/03/2011 09:21 AM, Chris Kloiber wrote:
the Oracle VirtualBox does not adequately permit 3d to run the
drain bamaged Gnome3 in a not going to lock up manner.
As several of us have pointed out at different times, there's nothing
forcing you to use Gnome. If it doesn't work, try KDE or
On 09/02/2011 04:25 AM, Peter G. wrote:
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3.
Boo hoo.
He is not alone
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On 9/1/2011 11:18 PM, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
On 09/02/2011 04:25 AM, Peter G. wrote:
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3.
Boo hoo.
He is not alone
+1
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On 09/02/2011 06:44 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?
Hopefully by then gnome3 will be fully baked.
The
On 9/1/2011 11:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 09/02/2011 06:44 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.edu wrote:
On 9/1/2011 11:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 09/02/2011 06:44 AM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 08:18 +0200, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
On 09/02/2011 04:25 AM, Peter G. wrote:
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3.
Boo hoo.
He is not alone
Definitely not alone. Even XFCE in F-15 can be
On 09/01/2011 09:14 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?
Hopefully by then gnome3 will be fully baked.
If
On 09/02/2011 02:51 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
Hum ... I find it a difficult proposition to ask users to step up and
do it when the march of progress indicates that it wasn't the users
that asked for this change. Change may be good, but I think alot of the
feedback on this forum has shown
On 09/01/2011 08:44 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?
Hopefully by then gnome3 will be fully baked.
I
On 09/02/2011 12:21 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
Hum ... I find it a difficult proposition to ask users to step up and
do it when the march of progress indicates that it wasn't the users
that asked for this change.
That may well be the case and Fedora doesn't really have a choice in that
I agree with those asking to extend F14. Extending
support will allow more time to fix F16 to better address
the GUI issues with Gnome 3, hopefully.
Cheers,
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Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3. In order to help the community
stay with Fedora
Why can't the community use KDE? No need to
answer, just a thought.
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On 09/02/2011 06:17 PM, Wade Hampton wrote:
I agree with those asking to extend F14. Extending
support will allow more time to fix F16 to better address
the GUI issues with Gnome 3, hopefully.
That doesn't make sense; extending support for F14 creates more work for
developers with already
On 09/02/2011 10:17 AM, Wade Hampton wrote:
I agree with those asking to extend F14. Extending
support will allow more time to fix F16 to better address
the GUI issues with Gnome 3, hopefully.
Why are you assuming that Gnome 3 will still be a FPOS by the time F16
comes out?
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On 09/02/2011 01:42 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
On 09/02/2011 06:17 PM, Wade Hampton wrote:
I agree with those asking to extend F14. Extending
support will allow more time to fix F16 to better address
the GUI issues with Gnome 3, hopefully.
That doesn't make sense; extending support for F14
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Robert Marcano rob...@marcanoonline.comwrote:
On 09/01/2011 08:44 PM, Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
security updates for F14 be
On 9/2/2011 6:06 AM, Mike Wohlgemuth wrote:
On 09/02/2011 02:51 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
Hum ... I find it a difficult proposition to ask users to step up and
do it when the march of progress indicates that it wasn't the users
that asked for this change. Change may be good, but I think
On 9/2/2011 6:29 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 09/02/2011 12:21 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
Hum ... I find it a difficult proposition to ask users to step up and
do it when the march of progress indicates that it wasn't the users
that asked for this change.
That may well be the case and
On 9/2/2011 2:13 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?
Fedora is not a democracy. It is a meritocracy.
The only changes that get made to Fedora are by people
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3. In order to help the community stay with Fedora, could
security updates for F14 be provided until F17 is released?
Hopefully by then gnome3 will be fully baked.
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Eric Hamber Secondary, Vancouver,
Robert Arkiletian wrote:
I run Fedora in school computer lab. I cannot upgrade to F15 because
of gnome3.
Boo hoo.
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