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2019-10-18 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2019-10-18 at 14:55 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I notice they also have three transmit power settings, I have not > tried changing anything there. I make the assumption that the iPhone > receiver sensitivity with its poor antenna is the limiting factor on > range. Increasing power will

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2019-10-18 Thread Tony Nelson
On 19-10-18 15:08:28, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/18/19 11:55 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 10/18/19 14:21, Samuel Sieb wrote: Oh, that's a new feature.  I haven't used the stock firmware for a very long time. . I was ready to install dd-wrt but found there was nothing compatible yet, thought I

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2019-10-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/18/19 11:55 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 10/18/19 14:21, Samuel Sieb wrote: Oh, that's a new feature.  I haven't used the stock firmware for a very long time. . I was ready to install dd-wrt but found there was nothing compatible yet, thought I would order another ASUS and then got the

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2019-10-18 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/18/19 14:21, Samuel Sieb wrote: Oh, that's a new feature.  I haven't used the stock firmware for a very long time. . I was ready to install dd-wrt but found there was nothing compatible yet, thought I would order another ASUS and then got the response from TP-Link, moved the

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2019-10-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/18/19 10:11 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: The browser configuration page offers two operating modes, I selected Access point and it appears that turns off the dhcp server and I am assuming makes the WAN input into a LAN input since that s what the support guy said to use and it immediately

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2019-10-18 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/18/19 12:52, Samuel Sieb wrote: Unless the router has an actual AP mode that uses the WAN port, that is not likely to be what you want.  Assuming you want seamless roaming, unless there is special support in the router, you want to plug your network into the LAN port, not the WAN port. 

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2019-10-18 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/18/19 12:40, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2019-10-18 at 11:20 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: I guess that is logical, the LAN input signal is replacing the WAN signal from a modem. With access points, they: *Can* act as a router, where they're the gateway between two subnets (WAN on the

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2019-10-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/18/19 8:20 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Yes, TP-Link Support seems to be good as claimed. I am not yet done testing things but it looks like the Access Point and Ethernet circuit may be working as expected, it will take a few  days to know but this morning it looks good? It appears the main

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2019-10-18 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2019-10-18 at 11:20 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I guess that is logical, the LAN input signal is replacing the WAN > signal from a modem. With access points, they: *Can* act as a router, where they're the gateway between two subnets (WAN on the outside, their own LAN on the inside).

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2019-10-18 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/16/19 06:30, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 10/15/19 19:48, George N. White III wrote: You can test the claim: "Industry leading support: 2-year and free 24/7 technical support. Contact ussupport@tp-link if you have any questions". . Yes, that sounds encouraging. Also I was pleased to see

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2019-10-16 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 20:48 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > I think homeplug is designed to recover after power outages. You'd hope so. As far as I'm concerned, any home appliance that needs a UPS is badly engineered. Devices should have enough internal power supply filtering that the

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2019-10-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/15/19 19:48, George N. White III wrote: You can test the claim: "Industry leading support: 2-year and free 24/7 technical support. Contact ussupport@tp-link if you have any questions". . Yes, that sounds encouraging. Also I was pleased to see essential information printed on the

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2019-10-15 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/15/19 18:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/15/19 1:00 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: and that turns out to be the weak link. We live in a rural area and our power is reliable but I do get occasional monetary drops the make the UPS s beep and apparently that is causing the Ethernet adapters to become

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2019-10-15 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 17:01, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 10/05/19 13:56, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> I see a TP-Link AC1750 Smart WiFi Router - Dual Band Gigabit Wireless > >> router available at an attractive price. Information is a bit vague. > >> Have you tried that model? I have been looking for

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2019-10-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/15/19 1:12 PM, Jack Craig wrote: maybe a UPS  system might fix the problem? Unless you're referring to a whole-house UPS system, that won't work. These devices definitely won't work through a UPS. ___ users mailing list --

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2019-10-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/15/19 1:00 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: and that turns out to be the weak link. We live in a rural area and our power is reliable but I do get occasional monetary drops the make the UPS s beep and apparently that is causing the Ethernet adapters to become unpaired. This morning I reset them and

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2019-10-15 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/15/19 16:12, Jack Craig wrote: maybe a UPS  system might fix the problem? . Well if it does it would seriously reduce the utility of those adapters, I hope not. I already use three UPS's, it might mean another here and a fourth one downstairs where we are still trying to find an

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2019-10-15 Thread Jack Craig
maybe a UPS system might fix the problem? On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:01 PM Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 10/05/19 13:56, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> I see a TP-Link AC1750 Smart WiFi Router - Dual Band Gigabit Wireless > >> router available at an attractive price. Information is a bit vague. > >> Have

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2019-10-15 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/05/19 13:56, Samuel Sieb wrote: I see a TP-Link AC1750 Smart WiFi Router - Dual Band Gigabit Wireless router available at an attractive price. Information is a bit vague. Have you tried that model? I have been looking for assurance that it could be used as an Access point as it comes. I

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2019-10-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 10/05/2019 12:48 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I ordered one and should  have it Monday afternoon. If I can't disable dhcp with their software I can replace it with DD-WRT or Openwrt, whatever. I would prefer not to though. Even if you can't disable dhcp on the router, you can configure the

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2019-10-05 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/05/19 13:56, Samuel Sieb wrote: Yes, as long as you can figure out how to disable dhcp.  I've also found that some won't let you use the same ssid for the 2.4 and 5GHz bands. If they're the same, then 5GHz capable devices will automatically use that.

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2019-10-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/5/19 9:25 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I see a TP-Link AC1750 Smart WiFi Router - Dual Band Gigabit Wireless router available at an attractive price. Information is a bit vague. Have you tried that model? I have been looking for assurance that it could be used as an Access point as it comes. I

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2019-10-05 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/04/19 17:59, Samuel Sieb wrote: I have used TP-Link routers for many years and have been generally happy with them.  Unfortunately the newer ones are generally not supported by openwrt yet.  That said, the not so new ones are still good and some have 802.11ac support as well. _ .

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2019-10-04 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/4/19 2:35 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 10/02/19 12:59, Samuel Sieb wrote: I have setup wifi in a school with currently around 15 access points and there is no problem roaming around.  They are all consumer routers reflashed with openwrt.  They used to be all TP-Link, but now I'm starting

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2019-10-04 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/02/19 12:59, Samuel Sieb wrote: I have setup wifi in a school with currently around 15 access points and there is no problem roaming around.  They are all consumer routers reflashed with openwrt.  They used to be all TP-Link, but now I'm starting to switch to Ubiquiti.  The whole school

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2019-10-04 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 12:59, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 10/01/19 19:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > If you have your access points all configured with the same SSID and > > password, there is no difference with a mesh system other than better > > speed. Even with mesh, your device still has to

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2019-10-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/3/19 2:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2019-10-02 at 09:59 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: I know that's true in theory, but in practice I've had problems with it. I assume this is one difference between consumer-grade APs and "managed" devices intended for corporate networks. In

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2019-10-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2019-10-02 at 09:59 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > I know that's true in theory, but in practice I've had problems with > > it. I assume this is one difference between consumer-grade APs and > > "managed" devices intended for corporate networks. > > In practice, I haven't had any issues

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2019-10-03 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/02/19 23:23, Tim via users wrote: It strikes me that there's a call for some sort of bridging adaptor where a device plugs into all phases and cross- connects them with a high pass filter (for RF). And there were other things mentioned that block signals: A UPS between the mains and a

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2019-10-02 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2019-10-02 at 12:16 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Our 120 volt service to the house is derived from a 240 volt line > from a center tapped transformer, the center is common and grounded. > So we have two possibilities, 180?? out of phase. Does the ethenet > signal find it's way, maybe, maybe

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2019-10-02 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2019-10-02 at 14:11 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > You could try putting the router upside-down on the ceiling, although > that may result in overheating (it is often hotter at the ceiling and > consumer devices are generally designed for passive cooling with air > drawn in via side

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2019-10-02 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 14:00, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 10/2/19 3:34 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-10-01 at 16:04 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >>> Powerline Ethernet (usually called Homeplug - > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug) is my standard answer for > >>> people who

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2019-10-02 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 12:59, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 10/01/19 19:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > If you have your access points all configured with the same SSID and > > password, there is no difference with a mesh system other than better > > speed. Even with mesh, your device still has to

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2019-10-02 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/2/19 3:34 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2019-10-01 at 16:04 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: Powerline Ethernet (usually called Homeplug - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug) is my standard answer for people who want to extend their home network. Very easy to install and much

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2019-10-02 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/02/19 06:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Not being an EE, I haven't the slightest idea. US power company standards are a closed book to me (I live in the UK where I don't think this would happen for safety reasons, though I could be wrong). In any case, Homeplug is a widely supported

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2019-10-02 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/01/19 19:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: If you have your access points all configured with the same SSID and password, there is no difference with a mesh system other than better speed.  Even with mesh, your device still has to switch access points when the current one is going out of range. 

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2019-10-02 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/01/19 18:46, Samuel Sieb wrote: They are very suitable for this case, I use one at home even though it's not really necessary.  How well it works can depend on your wiring and what else is plugged in nearby.  It's one of the easiest ways of extending your wifi range.  Just plug the

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2019-10-02 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/01/19 18:10, George N. White III wrote: The Apple Airport Extreme allowed you to configure one unit as the router and others as range extenders.   This gave one network with multiple access points and a single login with DHCP assigned IP that worked as you moved in and around the house. 

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2019-10-02 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 07:35, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2019-10-01 at 16:04 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > Powerline Ethernet (usually called Homeplug - > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug) is my standard answer for > > > people who want to extend their home network. Very

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2019-10-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2019-10-01 at 16:04 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > Powerline Ethernet (usually called Homeplug - > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug) is my standard answer for > > people who want to extend their home network. Very easy to install and > > much cheaper than the alternatives (not

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2019-10-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2019-10-02 at 03:43 +0200, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Tue, 01 Oct 2019 23:59:54 +0100 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-10-01 at 17:41 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > Ethernet over the ac power line? I've seen those advertised, know > > > nothing about their suitability for

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2019-10-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tue, 01 Oct 2019 23:59:54 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2019-10-01 at 17:41 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > Ethernet over the ac power line? I've seen those advertised, know > > nothing about their suitability for this application however. > > Powerline Ethernet (usually called

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2019-10-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/1/19 3:59 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2019-10-01 at 17:41 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 10/01/19 17:29, Ed Greshko wrote: So, what did you "hope for"? Ethernet over the ac power line? I've seen those advertised, know nothing about their suitability for this application

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2019-10-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2019-10-01 at 17:41 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > On 10/01/19 17:29, Ed Greshko wrote: > > So, what did you "hope for"? > Ethernet over the ac power line? I've seen those advertised, know > nothing about their suitability for this application however. Powerline Ethernet (usually called

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2019-10-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/1/19 2:41 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 10/01/19 17:29, Ed Greshko wrote: So, what did you "hope for"? Ethernet over the ac power line? I've seen those advertised, know nothing about their suitability for this application however. They are very suitable for this case, I use one at home

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2019-10-01 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 12:09, Bob Goodwin wrote: > . > Does anyone have experience with the so called "mesh wifi" systems. My > daughter suggested that I need one after reading a review. All I can > find is a lot of hype devoid of the things I would like to know, mainly > how are the units

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2019-10-01 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/01/19 17:29, Ed Greshko wrote: So, what did you "hope for"? Ethernet over the ac power line? I've seen those advertised, know nothing about their suitability for this application however. -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA ___ users mailing

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2019-10-01 Thread Ed Greshko
On 10/2/19 3:52 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 10/01/19 13:39, SternData wrote: I'm using a Netgear Orbi system. There's a base unit that is also an access point, then satellite units. The satellites have a "private" 5GHz channel for talking to the base. . I think that is the one she read about in

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2019-10-01 Thread Doug McGarrett
On 10/01/2019 03:52 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 10/01/19 13:39, SternData wrote: I'm using a Netgear Orbi system. There's a base unit that is also an access point, then satellite units. The satellites have a "private" 5GHz channel for talking to the base. . I think that is the one she read

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2019-10-01 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/01/19 13:39, SternData wrote: I'm using a Netgear Orbi system. There's a base unit that is also an access point, then satellite units. The satellites have a "private" 5GHz channel for talking to the base. . I think that is the one she read about in Consumer Reports. All I saw with some

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2019-10-01 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/01/19 13:39, SternData wrote: I'm using a Netgear Orbi system. There's a base unit that is also an access point, then satellite units. The satellites have a "private" 5GHz channel for talking to the base. . I think that is the one she read about in Consumer Reports. All I saw with some

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2019-10-01 Thread SternData
On 10/1/19 10:08 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > . > Does anyone have experience with the so called "mesh wifi" systems. My > daughter suggested that I need one after reading a review. All I can > find is a lot of hype devoid of the things I would like to know, mainly > how are the units interconnected?

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2019-10-01 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 10/01/19 11:35, Clifford Snow wrote: Bob, I recently installed a mesh system in my house. While the house is relatively small, it did have some dead spots with my old system. My old system was a router with a repeater. The new system has a router with two mesh devices. Coverage is complete

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2019-10-01 Thread Clifford Snow
Bob, I recently installed a mesh system in my house. While the house is relatively small, it did have some dead spots with my old system. My old system was a router with a repeater. The new system has a router with two mesh devices. Coverage is complete but the reason I upgraded was to avoid

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2019-10-01 Thread Bob Goodwin
. Does anyone have experience with the so called "mesh wifi" systems. My daughter suggested that I need one after reading a review. All I can find is a lot of hype devoid of the things I would like to know, mainly how are the units interconnected? It occurs to me that they might use Ethernet