Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-12 Thread Pavel Lisy
NOSpaze píše v Pá 09. 12. 2011 v 21:22 +0100: Hi. I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' advise to change OS, I'm a

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:18:33 -0500 Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The irony is that once you learn a few basics, LaTeX is also easier and quicker for writing those 1-page memos! Only if you write them frequently

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Ian Malone
On 11 December 2011 08:31, Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:18:33 -0500 Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The irony is that once you learn a few basics, LaTeX is also easier and

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread suvayu ali
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 05:09, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: Besides which, most WYSIWYG systems run a poor second to TeX/LaTeX when it comes to the excellence of the final result, and if there's any mathematical content there's no contest. There's a reason most

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Paul Smith
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 10:49 AM, suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Besides which, most WYSIWYG systems run a poor second to TeX/LaTeX when it comes to the excellence of the final result, and if there's any mathematical content there's no contest. There's a reason most

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 23:18 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The irony is that once you learn a few basics, LaTeX is also easier and quicker for writing those 1-page memos! Only if you write them frequently enough to remember the

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2011-12-11 at 10:17 +, Ian Malone wrote: On 11 December 2011 08:31, Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:18:33 -0500 Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The irony

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2011-12-11 at 10:17 +, Ian Malone wrote: On 11 December 2011 08:31, Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:18:33 -0500 Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The irony

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 23:39 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: WYSIWYG forces you to make decisions at every turn about what the final result looks like. Markup systems such as LaTeX or the SGML variants, espcially with good editor support, let you describe what you're writing (this is a

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 03:00 +1030, Tim wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 23:39 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: WYSIWYG forces you to make decisions at every turn about what the final result looks like. Markup systems such as LaTeX or the SGML variants, espcially with good editor support, let

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-11 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-12-11 at 10:17 +, Ian Malone wrote: On 11 December 2011 08:31, Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:18:33 -0500 Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Marc Blanc
Le Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, NOSpaze nosp...@gmail.com a écrit : I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' advise to

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 10:22 +0100, Marc Blanc wrote: Le Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, NOSpaze nosp...@gmail.com a écrit : I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book ... sgml/xml does this. But it's no wysiwyg... And it's not a software. What question

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 11:29 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 10:22 +0100, Marc Blanc wrote: Le Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, NOSpaze nosp...@gmail.com a écrit : I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book ... sgml/xml does this. But

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Ed Greshko
On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo Why do you ask? -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo Why do you ask? Yea thats me, why do you ask? are you my neighbor? :) -- NOSpaze nosp...@gmail.com -- users mailing list

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 10.12.2011, Peter Gueckel wrote: I cannot anticipate your exact needs, but it sounds to me like scribus could be what you might be looking for. I like to second that. That's what I would have used. After having written a lot of scientific articles during my mastergrade studies using

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Jack Wallen
On 12/10/2011 11:05 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 10.12.2011, Peter Gueckel wrote: I cannot anticipate your exact needs, but it sounds to me like scribus could be what you might be looking for. I like to second that. That's what I would have used. After having written a lot of scientific

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 13:57 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo Why do you ask? Yea thats me, why do you ask? are you my neighbor?

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Linda McLeod
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Re: [Fedora] Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Walter Cazzola
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011, NOSpaze wrote: I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' advise to change OS, I'm a sysadmin and need

Re: [Fedora] Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Digvijay Patankar
I don't see anything better than LaTeX/TeX to write a book either for technical or popular writing. If you absolutely need the WYSIWYG thing try lyx but as someone told this is just distracting you from the content. +1 . Latex/Tex is the best option from my perspective. -- *Digvijay

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/10/2011 08:38 AM, Jack Wallen wrote: If he plans on publishing through Amazon or Barnes And Noble, Scribus will not work. Create Space will accept .pdf docs though. Why won't it work? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 10:17 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 13:57 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo Why do

Re: [Fedora] Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:38:20 +0100 (CET) Walter Cazzola cazz...@dico.unimi.it wrote: I don't see anything better than LaTeX/TeX to write a book either for technical or popular writing. If you absolutely need the WYSIWYG thing try lyx but as someone told this is just distracting you from the

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread NOSpaze
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 11:20 -0800, Linda McLeod wrote: Get FocusWriter for sure... Nice and fast! Handle tabs below! Trying to understand what a session is. Tx. -- NOSpaze nosp...@gmail.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Jack Wallen
On 12/10/2011 03:09 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/10/2011 08:38 AM, Jack Wallen wrote: If he plans on publishing through Amazon or Barnes And Noble, Scribus will not work. Create Space will accept .pdf docs though. Why won't it work? As I said before, Amazon and Barnes Noble's publishing

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 13:57 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 20:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/10/2011 08:34 PM, Craig White wrote: is there any doubt who this NOSpaze is? Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo Why do you ask? Yea thats me, why do

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 21:15 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: WYSIWYG is an obstacle to writing? Damn! I knew it! Tell it to the LibreOffice team. They need to know it. There's writing and there's writing. LO competes with MS Office, which in turn is aimed primarily at office use (duh). As you go from

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The irony is that once you learn a few basics, LaTeX is also easier and quicker for writing those 1-page memos! Only if you write them frequently enough to remember the LaTeX commands :-). -- users mailing list

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 23:18 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:39:57 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The irony is that once you learn a few basics, LaTeX is also easier and quicker for writing those 1-page memos! Only if you write them frequently enough to remember the

Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread NOSpaze
Hi. I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' advise to change OS, I'm a sysadmin and need fedora on all my laptops. Mind

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread Peter Gueckel
NOSpaze wrote: Hi. I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' advise to change OS, I'm a sysadmin and need fedora on all my

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread jack wallen
Hi. I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' advise to change OS, I'm a sysadmin and need fedora on all my laptops. Mind

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread Richard Shaw
On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:22 PM, NOSpaze nosp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' advise to

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread jack wallen
Hi. I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' advise to change OS, I'm a sysadmin and need fedora on all my laptops. Mind

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread Rikke D. Giles
On 12/09/2011 12:22:15 PM, NOSpaze wrote: I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book snip Mind mapping (freemind is ok, any alternatives?), editing separated chapters and ordering afterwards, possibility of looking a list of sections or chapters

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100 NOSpaze wrote: I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book lyx -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com www.creekfm.com - FIFTY THOUSAND WATTS of POW WOW POWER! -- users mailing list

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread Beartooth
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: Hi. I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont' advise to change OS, I'm

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread Chris Tyler
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 22:04 +, Beartooth wrote: On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 21:22:15 +0100, NOSpaze wrote: Hi. I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working

Re: Writing a book w/F16?

2011-12-09 Thread NOSpaze
On Fri, 2011-12-09 at 13:28 -0700, Peter Gueckel wrote: NOSpaze wrote: Hi. I need to know what software f16 includes to aid in the task of writing a book (not just spelling and TOC). libreoffice I'm using, but is too slow and unappropriate when working with lots of text. Please dont'