Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

On Fri, 2018-05-18 at 10:12 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > > I suppose that style would work in mailing lists, also, but it would > > be a lot more traffic, and people who pop in on the middle of a > > conversation would have to do a lot of work to come up to speed. > > It's an extraordinarily bad

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

Allegedly, on or about 17 May 2018, stan sent: > Yeah, it's exactly the opposite of business communications, where > everyone just puts their response at the top, and the whole chain is > in the message below. There, everyone is in the loop, so it makes > more sense to just put the response at

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

On Thu, 17 May 2018 06:52:29 -0500 Bev in TX wrote: > Thanks for the info. I’ll try to remember to bottom post in this > group. Yeah, it's exactly the opposite of business communications, where everyone just puts their response at the top, and the whole chain is in the

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

On 05/17/18 19:47, Bev in TX wrote: > > Bev in TX > > > > >> On May 16, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Ed Greshko > > wrote: >> >> On 05/16/18 02:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> On 05/15/2018 05:03 AM, Bev in TX wrote: Graphics:  Card: InnoTek

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

On Thu, 2018-05-17 at 06:19 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 05/16/18 02:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 05/15/2018 05:03 AM, Bev in TX wrote: > > > Graphics: Card: InnoTek Systemberatung VirtualBox Graphics > > > Adapter > > > Display Server: x11 (X.org 119.6 ) > > >

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

> On May 16, 2018, at 11:05 AM, stan wrote: > >> Is this a Gnome specific issue, or does it affect all Linux desktops? > > It would affect any desktop that tries to run wayland as default. As > far as I know, right now that is only Gnome and KDE, but I don't pay >

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

Bev in TX > On May 16, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 05/16/18 02:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 05/15/2018 05:03 AM, Bev in TX wrote: >>> Graphics: Card: InnoTek Systemberatung VirtualBox Graphics Adapter >>> Display Server: x11 (X.org

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

On 05/16/18 02:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 05/15/2018 05:03 AM, Bev in TX wrote: >> Graphics:  Card: InnoTek Systemberatung VirtualBox Graphics Adapter >>             Display Server: x11 (X.org 119.6 ) driver: >> vboxvideo >> Resolution: 1704x1048@59.99hz >>             OpenGL:

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

On 05/16/2018 12:07 AM, Tim via users wrote: > Tim wrote: >>> I bought a recent motherboard, that uses some intel HD Graphics 630 >>> (rev 04) chipset, yet X seems to be using i915 drivers as a basic >>> way of using the chipset. > > Samuel Sieb: >> Isn't that the right driver? > > Don't know,

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

> > On May 15, 2018, at 1:51 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > It's likely that the vbox video driver doesn't have the full > > support that works with Wayland. On Wed, 16 May 2018 06:50:44 -0500 Bev in TX wrote: > Is this a Gnome specific issue, or does it

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

Is this a Gnome specific issue, or does it affect all Linux desktops? Thanks, Bev in TX > On May 15, 2018, at 1:51 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 05/15/2018 05:03 AM, Bev in TX wrote: >> Graphics: Card: InnoTek Systemberatung VirtualBox Graphics Adapter >>Display

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

Tim wrote: >> I bought a recent motherboard, that uses some intel HD Graphics 630 >> (rev 04) chipset, yet X seems to be using i915 drivers as a basic >> way of using the chipset. Samuel Sieb: > Isn't that the right driver? Don't know, can't tell. There doesn't appear to be any related

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

On 05/15/2018 05:03 AM, Bev in TX wrote: Graphics:  Card: InnoTek Systemberatung VirtualBox Graphics Adapter            Display Server: x11 (X.org 119.6 ) driver: vboxvideo Resolution: 1704x1048@59.99hz            OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 128 bits) version: 2.1

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

On 05/15/2018 07:56 AM, Tim via users wrote: I bought a recent motherboard, that uses some intel HD Graphics 630 (rev 04) chipset, yet X seems to be using i915 drivers as a basic way of using the chipset. Isn't that the right driver? Which one would you expect to be using? The "915" is

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

Allegedly, on or about 15 May 2018, Ed Greshko sent: > Are both related to Intel 945GM and neither one ever being > addressed/resolved. > > Since Intel 945GM is old one would have to question if it is capable > of supporting wayland efficiently. Based on those BZ and other > searches, if it were

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

Uncommenting the Wayland line also helped me. I installed Fedora 28 Python Classroom on my 2010 MacBook Pro as a VirtualBox 5.2.10 guest. After booting the screen kept jumping and the mouse moved erratically; infrequently the mouse disappeared forcing me to reboot the virtual machine. I

Re: (fedora) Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

eceived: by iabyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7828182845; Mon, 14 May 2018 20:16:44 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 20:16:44 +0100 From: Dave Mitchell <da...@iabyn.com> To: Community support for Fedora users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: Re: after F27

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

On 05/15/18 03:39, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 05/14/2018 12:16 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote: >>> One thing to try is edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and uncomment the >>> Wayland=false line. >> >> That did the trick, thanks. >> >> Any idea what component I should bugzilla this against? > > I would suggest

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

On 05/14/2018 12:16 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote: One thing to try is edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and uncomment the Wayland=false line. That did the trick, thanks. Any idea what component I should bugzilla this against? I would suggest starting with "wayland". If it's a kernel issue, they can

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 05:43:04PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 05/13/2018 02:02 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote: > > But now near the end of the boot sequence (filling-up teardrop turning > > into a fedora logo), the cursor appears in the middle of the screen, but > > doesn't move with either mouse or

Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

On 05/13/2018 02:02 PM, Dave Mitchell wrote: But now near the end of the boot sequence (filling-up teardrop turning into a fedora logo), the cursor appears in the middle of the screen, but doesn't move with either mouse or touchpad input. After a few more minutes the fedora teardrop vanishes,

after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot

I recently upgraded an 11 year old laptop from F27 to F28. (This machine has previously worked fine with many releases from FC6 onwards.) The upgrade went apparently smoothly. But now near the end of the boot sequence (filling-up teardrop turning into a fedora logo), the cursor appears in the