Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread jdow
fdisk -l /dev/sda Determine REAL block size. Then use that size for dd. Some disks are VERY picky about how block zero is written. (One Quantum hard disks were particularly annoying in this regard.) Then use dd to blank the first megabyte of the disk, ideally starting at block 1. Make sur

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/30/2013 04:10 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: While other OSs do not care, the BIOS may care. Some BIOS will not boot at all if there isn't a partition marked as bootable. Also, it may boot from the drive with the bootable partition regardless of the boot order. Systems not wanting to boot w

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2013 01:15 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/30/2013 10:55 AM, Raf Roger wrote: > [SNIP!] >> but in former windows 7 my actual SDB was as first HDD in disk manager, >> so with ID=0.. now it has ID=1 (so as 2nd HDD), but still not bootable. >> in fa

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Raf Roger
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Raf Roger wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson > wrote: > >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 01/30/2013 01:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: >> > On 01/30/2013 10:11 AM, Raf Roger wrote: >> >> i tried it and still

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Raf Roger
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/30/2013 01:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 01/30/2013 10:11 AM, Raf Roger wrote: > >> i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD > boot :( > >> instead of hav

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/30/2013 10:55 AM, Raf Roger wrote: [SNIP!] but in former windows 7 my actual SDB was as first HDD in disk manager, so with ID=0.. now it has ID=1 (so as 2nd HDD), but still not bootable. in fact none should have a boot manager as my REAL former C:\ drive has crashed and therefore i replace

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/30/2013 01:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/30/2013 10:11 AM, Raf Roger wrote: >> i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( >> instead of having "system not found" (which is the typicall message when >> boot sector is

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Raf, > > Please don't top post, it makes it difficult to follow the thread. > > Next, do you happen to have a 2nd hard drive in the machine you are trying to boot (perhaps that has the Windows boot loader on > it?)? How big is the drive you are try

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Joe Zeff
On 01/30/2013 10:11 AM, Raf Roger wrote: i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( instead of having "system not found" (which is the typicall message when boot sector is not found in windows) When you installed, where did you have it put grub? It sounds as though

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Raf Roger
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Raf Roger wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Kevin Martin wrote: > >> On 01/30/13 12:11, Raf Roger wrote: >> > i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( >> instead of having "system not found" (which is the typicall >> >

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Raf Roger
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Kevin Martin wrote: > On 01/30/13 12:11, Raf Roger wrote: > > i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( > instead of having "system not found" (which is the typicall > > message when boot sector is not found in windows) > > > > any oth

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Kevin Martin
On 01/30/13 12:11, Raf Roger wrote: > i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( > instead of having "system not found" (which is the typicall > message when boot sector is not found in windows) > > any other idea than "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1" ? i a

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Raf Roger
i tried it and still have the windows boot manager when my HDD boot :( instead of having "system not found" (which is the typicall message when boot sector is not found in windows) any other idea than "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1" ? i also tried with bs=512, but still not successful

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Raf Roger
Hi Patrick, in fact i can delete everything on this HDD as i formatted it...backup was done before :) i just found also something similar. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=446 count=1 where /dev/sda should be replaced by my HDD value. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Patrick Lists < fedora-l...

Re: former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Patrick Lists
On 01/30/2013 06:13 PM, Raf Roger wrote: Hi, i formatted my HDD where before i had windows 7 installed, in order to install new fedora 18. however after fedora installation, HDD does not boot on grub but still on former windows boot manager. How ca i do to REALLY remove this stupid windows 7 bo

former windows 7 boot manager still showing

2013-01-30 Thread Raf Roger
Hi, i formatted my HDD where before i had windows 7 installed, in order to install new fedora 18. however after fedora installation, HDD does not boot on grub but still on former windows boot manager. How ca i do to REALLY remove this stupid windows 7 boot manager ? thx -- Alain ---