Re: shutdown as a simple user

2024-04-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/1/24 02:32, François Patte wrote: Le 2024-04-01 10:40, Samuel Sieb a écrit : On 4/1/24 01:08, François Patte wrote: Up to yesterday, I was allowed to shutdown and hibernate my machine as a simple user. Using the gui or the command line? I use xfce and in the panel there is tab with

Re: shutdown as a simple user

2024-04-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2024-04-01 at 11:32 +0200, François Patte wrote: > Le 2024-04-01 10:40, Samuel Sieb a écrit : > > On 4/1/24 01:08, François Patte wrote: > > > Up to yesterday, I was allowed to shutdown and hibernate my > > > machine as > > > a simple user. > &

Re: shutdown as a simple user

2024-04-01 Thread François Patte
Le 2024-04-01 10:40, Samuel Sieb a écrit : On 4/1/24 01:08, François Patte wrote: Up to yesterday, I was allowed to shutdown and hibernate my machine as a simple user. Using the gui or the command line? I use xfce and in the panel there is tab with the user name, using this you can

Re: shutdown as a simple user

2024-04-01 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/1/24 01:08, François Patte wrote: Up to yesterday, I was allowed to shutdown and hibernate my machine as a simple user. Using the gui or the command line? Yesterday a powercut while the machine was up suppressed this feature I don't understand why. How can recover this fe

shutdown as a simple user

2024-04-01 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, Up to yesterday, I was allowed to shutdown and hibernate my machine as a simple user. Yesterday a powercut while the machine was up suppressed this feature I don't understand why. How can recover this feature? Thank you -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informa

Re: console logging during shutdown. [SOLVED]

2023-07-27 Thread home user
On 7/26/23 6:42 AM, stan via users wrote: [... snip ...] I have plymouth installed, and see messages at both start and exit on f37. I think the key thing to get that behavior with plymouth installed is to remove the rhgb and quiet from the kernel command line. Try it first, by hitting a key du

Re: console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-27 Thread home user
On 7/25/23 11:09 AM, home user wrote: Good morning, I want to see console logging during shutdown automatically, by default. How do I do that? thanks, Bill. (responding to posts about plymouth) What's making me uncomfortable is the huge number of files (NOT in /home) that contain the s

Re: console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-27 Thread home user
ot;; I was overwhelmed.  I tried finding files and directories (not in user directory trees) whose name contained "plymouth"; I was overwhelmed.  I gather plymouth is used for much more than logging during boot-up and shutdown. Strange.  When I searched on "plymouth linux" the

Re: console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-26 Thread David King
files and directories (not in user directory trees) whose name contained "plymouth"; I was overwhelmed.  I gather plymouth is used for much more than logging during boot-up and shutdown. Strange.  When I searched on "plymouth linux" the first two hits I got were the Arch L

Re: console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-26 Thread Barry Scott
> On 26 Jul 2023, at 02:43, home user wrote: > I tried to research plymouth. I found little information about it; no hint > of any configuration or customization file. Its only config is the theme to use as I recall. I wrote one of those theme for an embedded system a long time ago. > > So

Re: console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-26 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 19:43:13 -0600 home user wrote: > On 7/25/23 2:42 PM, Barry Scott wrote: > > > > > I uninstall plymouth so that there is no splash screen on many of > > my systems so that I can see the console messages. > > > > Without plymouth sys

Re: console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-07-25 at 19:49 -0600, home user wrote: > On 7/25/23 3:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Note that you can see the console output during startup by pressing > > Esc > > after the flashscreen shows. I don't know if there's a way to get >

Re: console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-25 Thread Mike Wright
On 7/25/23 18:43, home user wrote: On 7/25/23 2:42 PM, Barry Scott wrote: I uninstall plymouth so that there is no splash screen on many of my systems so that I can see the console messages. Without plymouth systemd will show start up and shutdown messages on the console. I checked; dnf

Re: console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-25 Thread Felix Miata
home user composed on 2023-07-25 19:43 (UTC-0600): > I'm very nervous about removing plymouth. Is there a way of controlling > shutdown (and boot-up) logging via configuration files? I would think that > would be much easier and safer. IMO, the primary purpose of Plymouth is

Re: console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-25 Thread home user
On 7/25/23 3:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Note that you can see the console output during startup by pressing Esc after the flashscreen shows. I don't know if there's a way to get it during shutdown. That works (much of the time) during shutdown, too. But often it takes a

Re: console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-25 Thread home user
On 7/25/23 2:42 PM, Barry Scott wrote: I uninstall plymouth so that there is no splash screen on many of my systems so that I can see the console messages. Without plymouth systemd will show start up and shutdown messages on the console. I checked; dnf confirms I have plymouth. I tried to

Re: console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-07-25 at 21:42 +0100, Barry Scott wrote: > > > > On 25 Jul 2023, at 18:09, home user wrote: > > > > Good morning, > > > > I want to see console logging during shutdown automatically, by > > default. > > How do I do that? > >

Re: console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-25 Thread Barry Scott
> On 25 Jul 2023, at 18:09, home user wrote: > > Good morning, > > I want to see console logging during shutdown automatically, by default. > How do I do that? I uninstall plymouth so that there is no splash screen on many of my systems so that I can see the console

console logging during shutdown.

2023-07-25 Thread home user
Good morning, I want to see console logging during shutdown automatically, by default. How do I do that? thanks, Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Shutdown command muted -- How to send alerts to GUI session?

2023-05-14 Thread Robert Nichols
Now that terminal emulator sessions are no longer treated as separate logins, commands like "shutdown" and Network UPS Tools that try to use "wall" to alert users to impending doom are effectively muted. This should probably be reported as a bug in the "shutdown&

Re: shutdown

2023-02-15 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2023-02-16 at 09:36 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Many BIOSs will also let you set a wake up time within them. It *may* > also be possible for that time to be set from the OS (such as if you > wanted to change it). > > Remember that the hardware clock may be different from the system > cl

Re: shutdown

2023-02-15 Thread Tim via users
ontrol. > It has to be automatic (of course I could say restart at 12:00, > but I have to say it at the shutdown) Many BIOSs will also let you set a wake up time within them. It *may* also be possible for that time to be set from the OS (such as if you wanted to change it). Remember that the

Re: shutdown

2023-02-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 23:38:34 +0100 Patrick Dupre wrote: > But does it means that it will boot when the power will be back? That's how it works on my systems (where it functions correctly - not all motherboards get it right). Sometimes this surprises me if I'm working on a system and plug it in, f

Re: shutdown

2023-02-15 Thread Patrick Dupre
> > > Actually, this will be done more or less automatically if I do not > > do anything, except that the shutdown will be hard when the power > > will be turned off. > > A lot of BIOS have settings for things like "boot at power on". > You could shut do

Re: shutdown

2023-02-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 23:16:05 +0100 Patrick Dupre wrote: > Actually, this will be done more or less automatically if I do not > do anything, except that the shutdown will be hard when the power > will be turned off. A lot of BIOS have settings for things like "boot at power on&qu

shutdown

2023-02-15 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, I would like to set one of the following 1) shutdown now and restart at a given time, 2) shutdown (halt) and restart automatically when the next power with be back on (of course at the shutdown, the power will be on, it will be turned off for a couple of hours, and it will be backed

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2022-01-23 Thread Ruggero Lot
Two years later, I can say that this error might still be a thing. I concluded that the most likely cause is my mother. Jokes aside, she unplugged the power chord before the pc switches off completely. Through the years, she managed to crash in the same way f33, f34, and now f35. This time I had

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-12-07 Thread murph nj
temd-cryptsetup@luks\x2d23.service stop running > > > Home and other make sense given your earlier comment, but what are the > other two? Do the number of entries in /etc/crypttab match the number > of LUKS partitions? (What's in /proc/mounts during the failed shutdown?) Wh

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-12-05 Thread murph nj
service stop running > > 6047 systemd-cryptsetup@luks\x2d23.service stop running > > > Home and other make sense given your earlier comment, but what are the > other two? Do the number of entries in /etc/crypttab match the number > of LUKS partitions? (What's in /proc

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-12-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
other make sense given your earlier comment, but what are the other two?  Do the number of entries in /etc/crypttab match the number of LUKS partitions?  (What's in /proc/mounts during the failed shutdown?) ___ users mailing list --

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-12-04 Thread murph nj
On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 2:06 PM Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/1/21 18:03, murph nj wrote: > > > > lsof showed nothing that I could see. > > > Nothing, or nothing interesting? I'd expect you to at least see the CWD > of the debug shell. > > Got another opportunity, redirected lsof /home and lsof /

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-12-02 Thread murph nj
The contents of /proc/mounts might be interesting. I'd run > "lsof /path" where path is the longest mount point path of the volumes > still listed in /proc/mounts. > > I'll give it a shot next time it hangs up on shutdown. Any ideas on how to make the er

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-12-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/1/21 18:03, murph nj wrote: lsof showed nothing that I could see. Nothing, or nothing interesting?  I'd expect you to at least see the CWD of the debug shell. The stop job rotates between four mounted volumes, and the lvm2-monitor.service. In the past, I've seen lvm2-monitor beh

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-12-02 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 21:03:16 -0500 murph nj wrote: > So, as far as dragging people through debugging seems somewhat futile > to me, unless collectively you think that it is worthwhile to pursue > this. I'm game if this can help the Fedora community, but the system > is working, I can back up, and

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-12-01 Thread murph nj
the jobs and then do a systemctl status on each > one of them to find out what they are up to. > > > Well, I finally enabled the shell, and it (as it is intermittent) hung up on shutdown. lsof showed nothing that I could see. The stop job rotates between four mounted volumes, an

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-09-30 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 4:13 PM Gordon Messmer wrote: > > On 9/30/21 12:41, Chris Murphy wrote: > > Seems likely to me some service is not quitting properly, preventing / > > from being unmounted > > > If that were the case, there might be information about an exit failure > in the log. On the ne

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-09-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 9/30/21 12:41, Chris Murphy wrote: Seems likely to me some service is not quitting properly, preventing / from being unmounted If that were the case, there might be information about an exit failure in the log.  On the next boot, "journalctl -b -1" might have useful info. I also wonder i

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-09-30 Thread Chris Murphy
here > in the current version as well. > > Somewhere around 1 out of every 10 shutdowns, the system goes down to > "[ OK ] Reached target System Shutdown", but then, > "[ *** ] a stop job is running for Cryptography setup for luks- LUKS volumes>" > > It

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-09-30 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 14:17:01 -0400 murph nj wrote: > I'm having an issue shutting down. [snip] > I haven't found anything interesting in /var/log/messages regarding > it. > > Any suggestions to further troubleshooting? I think this is an artifact of the shutdown pr

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-09-29 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/29/21 14:17, Samuel Sieb wrote: Somehow you sent this as a reply to another thread that most people will probably ignore.  I suggest sending it again as not a reply. And immediately after sending that I saw that there were more emails in my inbox and you had already done that. Sorry! __

Re: LUKS on shutdown.

2021-09-29 Thread Samuel Sieb
Somehow you sent this as a reply to another thread that most people will probably ignore. I suggest sending it again as not a reply. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject

LUKS on shutdown.

2021-09-29 Thread murph nj
f every 10 shutdowns, the system goes down to "[ OK ] Reached target System Shutdown", but then, "[ *** ] a stop job is running for Cryptography setup for luks-" It typically goes for about 1/2 hour if I don't get fed up, and hold the power button down. I just saw after that

LUKS on shutdown.

2021-09-29 Thread murph nj
I'm having an issue shutting down. Fedora 34, just updated to 35, same problem. (It was around in 33 as well, I've been putting up with it.) Somewhere around 1 out of 10 shutdowns, the system goes down to "[ OK ] Reached target System Shutdown", but then, [ *** ] a sto

Re: Auto-updates on shutdown is a bad idea - Was: Re: AAUGH! More "helpful" software!

2020-04-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/28/2020 10:28 AM, Digimer wrote: Auto-installing updates on shutdown is a terrible idea and should NOT be the default behaviour of any modern OS. And, of course, if somebody had the temerity to open a BZ on this behavior, it would be instantly closed as NOTABUG

Auto-updates on shutdown is a bad idea - Was: Re: AAUGH! More "helpful" software!

2020-04-28 Thread Digimer
On 2020-04-28 11:57 a.m., Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 10:54:15AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: >> >> I try to shutdown my new fedora 32 virtual machine. >> It immediately says: >> >> "Installing updates, do not turn off" >> >&

Re: Slow down in operation and shutdown issue

2020-04-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-23 06:57, Ed Greshko wrote: There have been updates to the kernel since that time. Every day.  I keep hoping a kernel update will come through and fix it You're on 5.5.17-200 now? $ uname -r 5.5.17-200.fc31.x86_64 ___ users mailing list -

Re: Slow down in operation and shutdown issue

2020-04-23 Thread stan via users
aid, this is probably a resource issue. Something is hogging the CPU or memory, and limiting the time slice for your typing interrupts. The keystroke logger on your system is misbehaving. Or maybe it is the bitcoin miner causing the problem. We'll send out new ones as soon as possible. ;-) >

Re: Slow down in operation and shutdown issue

2020-04-23 Thread Ed Greshko
>>> And to just be clear, if no slow down is apparent, shutdown >>> and reboot work perfectly: they do not hang >> >> So, you're saying that if you see a slowdown then you'll have the issue with >> reboot/shutdown. > > Yes.  And time does not heal. 

Re: Slow down in operation and shutdown issue

2020-04-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
correlate to certain web pages, and its timing seems > to be rather random and often it seems to happen unattended. On the > 32gb laptop when it gets slow enough that I notice I find what is > using all of the ram and kill it and that clears up the issue. > Excessive swap usage will cause sh

Re: Slow down in operation and shutdown issue

2020-04-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2020-04-23 at 06:03 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > It sounds as if this issue happens for you frequently? And, are you still > > on the kernel shown in the > > BZ? > > What is BZ? Bugzilla, the Fedora bug reporting system. poc ___

Re: Slow down in operation and shutdown issue

2020-04-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-23 05:25, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-04-23 20:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2020-04-23 03:53, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Fedora 31, x64 Xfce 4.14 Shutdown hangs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1815686 Hi All, Randomly and not associated with any particular

Re: Slow down in operation and shutdown issue

2020-04-23 Thread Roger Heflin
real task hung bugs shutdown won't ever finish and you will have to force it off as the messages is reporting it hung for XX seconds, but really it will never get out the the deadlock, or whatever needs to do will never complete. On my laptop (32gb) I only get a tiny bit slow when firefo

Re: Slow down in operation and shutdown issue

2020-04-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-04-23 20:06, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 2020-04-23 03:53, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> Fedora 31, x64 >> Xfce 4.14 >> >> Shutdown hangs: >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1815686 >> >> Hi All, >> >> Rando

Re: Slow down in operation and shutdown issue

2020-04-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2020-04-23 03:53, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Fedora 31, x64 Xfce 4.14 Shutdown hangs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1815686 Hi All, Randomly and not associated with any particular program, my system will slow down.  It becomes obvious when I can type faster than letters

Slow down in operation and shutdown issue

2020-04-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Fedora 31, x64 Xfce 4.14 Shutdown hangs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1815686 Hi All, Randomly and not associated with any particular program, my system will slow down. It becomes obvious when I can type faster than letters appear. And when this happens, a reboot will fix it

Anyone having trouble with shutdown?

2020-03-29 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Fedora 31 Shutdown hangs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1815686 Anyone else having problems with shutdown? It gets to the point where it says Target reached: reboot / power off it hands for about a minutes. Then it constantly repeats the values in my CPU registers

Shutdown not working on Fedora 31 with XFCE

2020-02-26 Thread Meikel
Hi folks, when I shutdown my Fedora 31 XFCE via the menu, the system goes down, and then after one or two seconds automatically restarts. What I' ve to do as a work-around to shut the system down is to log into a console and type "sudo halt" which halts the system. When a mes

Re: New fedora 31 install hangs on shutdown

2019-11-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 15:13:01 -0700 S.Bob wrote: > Any thoughts on how to debug this? I don't know about debug, but it looks like the nouveau driver is crashing, so you could try installing the nvidia driver from rpmfusion and see if it gets better. ___

New fedora 31 install hangs on shutdown

2019-11-25 Thread S.Bob
Hi all; I've just installed Fedora 31, on a thinkpad P51s Every time I shutdown it hangs with the following text and never powers off. Any thoughts on how to debug this? Thanks in advance. Nov 25 08:07:21 F31host kernel: [ cut here ] Nov 25 08:07:21 F3

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-14 Thread murph nj
ailing, but you don't really know what the underlying > cause is for it to fail. > > What exactly was the "improper shutdown" > > The easiest way to debug is to livecd boot it mount up the old > filessystems on say /oldroot (rootfs) mount /oldroot/usr for usr and >

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-10 Thread murph nj
ailing, but you don't really know what the underlying > cause is for it to fail. > > What exactly was the "improper shutdown" A failing battery (I think) caused it to shut down when I wasn't ready, and didn't shut down properly. Then I accidentally opened the lid,

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-10 Thread Roger Heflin
l. What exactly was the "improper shutdown" The easiest way to debug is to livecd boot it mount up the old filessystems on say /oldroot (rootfs) mount /oldroot/usr for usr and so forth and then cd /oldroot and do a "chroot ." I would expect the chroot . to fail with some sort of

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-10 Thread murph nj
On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 9:07 PM Tony Nelson wrote: > > Usually, when it all goes wrong just after pivot-root, there is a > problem with the new (real) root. Exactly how it goes wrong is not > useful. I would look hard at whatever is mounted at /sysroot. It > should be what you expect / (root) to

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-09 Thread Tony Nelson
On 19-09-09 14:10:24, murph nj wrote: Tony: Can you give me some insight as to what the boot process does next AFTER that pivot point? The output I'm getting isn't enlightening me, and I'm not quite sure where to look next. ... Usually, when it all goes wrong just after pivot-root, there is

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-09 Thread murph nj
Tony: Can you give me some insight as to what the boot process does next AFTER that pivot point? The output I'm getting isn't enlightening me, and I'm not quite sure where to look next. I can just reinstall, but I'm trying to learn more about how to recover from errors, instead of taking the eas

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-05 Thread murph nj
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:08 AM sixpack13 wrote: > > e2fsck is for ext -partitions > AFAIK /boot/efi is fat ! You are correct. I already checked, all the partitions are fine. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-05 Thread sixpack13
e2fsck is for ext -partitions AFAIK /boot/efi is fat ! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-o

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-05 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 17:42:40 -0400 murph nj wrote: > I had not, but I edited from the grub menu, and eliminated them. I > was then able to see the messages. (I was able to see them previously > by hitting the escape key right after entering my password for the > disks.) > > Everything left on th

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-04 Thread murph nj
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 9:56 PM Tony Nelson wrote: > > > It dies trying to pivot-root, so add to the kernel command line > > rd.break=pre-pivot > Interesting. I was able to drop to a shell. I took a look at the journal, and it looked like a possible hibernation problem, so I took that out

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-04 Thread Tony Nelson
On 19-09-04 17:42:40, murph nj wrote: ... Everything left on the screen after the kernel panic is (too much to type) https://imgur.com/a/kf81crl ... Unfortunately, it goes right to a kernel panic, so no prompts at all to work with. (I'd have chewed on it more before asking for help if I h

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-04 Thread murph nj
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 5:42 PM murph nj wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:21 PM stan via users > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 15:05:36 -0400 > > murph nj wrote: > > > > > I was able to mount the drives, and check them, no problems. > > > > Did that include the boot partition, where the ke

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-04 Thread murph nj
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 4:21 PM stan via users wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 15:05:36 -0400 > murph nj wrote: > > > I was able to mount the drives, and check them, no problems. > > Did that include the boot partition, where the kernels and initramfs' > are? > I had not, but on your suggestion, I

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-04 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 15:05:36 -0400 murph nj wrote: > I was able to mount the drives, and check them, no problems. I was > also able to move all of my important data off of the drives to an > external, so I'm not worried about any loss to the data on the drives. > No worries of fatal mistakes anym

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-04 Thread murph nj
I was able to mount the drives, and check them, no problems. I was also able to move all of my important data off of the drives to an external, so I'm not worried about any loss to the data on the drives. No worries of fatal mistakes anymore. I also took a look at the journals that were left, the

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-04 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 12:33:59 -0400 murph nj wrote: > The power supply was not the problem, it was the battery. All > subsequent testing has been done plugged into power. It also boots > just fine from a USB stick with either Mint or Fedora. > > There are three kernels available from the boot me

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-04 Thread murph nj
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:45 AM stan via users wrote: > > > The switch root is changing from the initramfs to the installed OS. If > there is a power problem, it is possible that memory is not working > properly, and disk reads are erronious. Fix the power supply before > you go any further. An

Re: Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-04 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 22:31:52 -0400 murph nj wrote: > I've got an Acer laptop that has been shutting down suddenly. (I > suspect a bad battery, working on that.) > > After a sudden shutdown last night, I now get a kernel panic on boot > right after "Starting Switch Roo

Improper shutdown, now Kernel panic.

2019-09-03 Thread murph nj
Hi all: I've got an odd problem that I was hoping for some help on. The laptop was previously working fine, I am running F30, updated regularly. I've got an Acer laptop that has been shutting down suddenly. (I suspect a bad battery, working on that.) After a sudden shutdown last ni

Re: systemd triggers a shutdown or a reboot every few minutes. Not.

2019-04-08 Thread Tony Nelson
On 19-04-08 08:45:37, Sam Varshavchik wrote: According to /var/log/messages, systemd thinks the system is going down for a shutdown or reboot: ... What in blazes is it doing? cron jobs. -- TonyN

systemd triggers a shutdown or a reboot every few minutes. Not.

2019-04-08 Thread Sam Varshavchik
According to /var/log/messages, systemd thinks the system is going down for a shutdown or reboot: Apr 8 08:38:12 monster systemd[52873]: Stopped target Default. Apr 8 08:38:12 monster systemd[52873]: Stopped target Basic System. Apr 8 08:38:12 monster systemd[52873]: Stopped target Sockets

Issues with nouveau & lockups, freeze on shutdown - SOLVED (Or at least a work around)

2018-11-11 Thread PropAAS DBA
DIA Quadro P500 2GB GDDR5 Ever since then I've had issues with lockups, cpu 'stuck' at 100%, shutdown hangs, etc I upgraded to Fedora29 and most of the lockup and cpu stuck issues went away but the shutdown hang issue remained. Often I would see /var/log/messages entries like this:

"Failed unmounting /var" on every shutdown

2018-11-10 Thread Richard Shaw
I've been seeing this for a long time but it hasn't seemed to cause any issues so I've left it alone. Per this link: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/378678/why-do-i-get-the-error-failed-unmounting-var-during-shutdown It has to do with having a separate /var (common) and

Re: fedora cloud AWS randomly shutdown

2018-10-01 Thread Rick Stevens
On 9/28/18 4:08 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Matthew Miller wrote: > >> You're not using spot pricing, are you? >> > No. > > I'm becoming more convinced that machines get shutdown when load average > > #cores for too long, but it seems rather randomly. Th

Re: fedora cloud AWS randomly shutdown

2018-09-28 Thread Neal Becker
Matthew Miller wrote: > You're not using spot pricing, are you? > No. I'm becoming more convinced that machines get shutdown when load average > #cores for too long, but it seems rather randomly. The reason I'm asking here is just in case that is part of fedora cloud

Re: fedora cloud AWS randomly shutdown

2018-09-27 Thread Matthew Miller
You're not using spot pricing, are you? On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 03:32:49PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > I'm using f28 cloud on AWS as a compute farm. It seems that instances > randomly shutdown within hours of starting. An example log: > > ... > Fedora 28 (Cloud Edi

Re: fedora cloud AWS randomly shutdown

2018-09-26 Thread Rick Stevens
On 9/26/18 5:03 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Rick Stevens wrote: > >> On 9/25/18 12:32 PM, Neal Becker wrote: >>> I'm using f28 cloud on AWS as a compute farm. It seems that instances >>> randomly shutdown within hours of starting. An example log: >&

Re: fedora cloud AWS randomly shutdown

2018-09-26 Thread Neal Becker
Rick Stevens wrote: > On 9/25/18 12:32 PM, Neal Becker wrote: >> I'm using f28 cloud on AWS as a compute farm. It seems that instances >> randomly shutdown within hours of starting. An example log: >> >> ... >> Fedora 28 (Cloud Edition) >> Kerne

Re: fedora cloud AWS randomly shutdown

2018-09-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 9/25/18 12:32 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > I'm using f28 cloud on AWS as a compute farm. It seems that instances > randomly shutdown within hours of starting. An example log: > > ... > Fedora 28 (Cloud Edition) > Kernel 4.16.3-301.fc28.x86_64 on an x86_64 (ttyS0) > &

fedora cloud AWS randomly shutdown

2018-09-25 Thread Neal Becker
I'm using f28 cloud on AWS as a compute farm. It seems that instances randomly shutdown within hours of starting. An example log: ... Fedora 28 (Cloud Edition) Kernel 4.16.3-301.fc28.x86_64 on an x86_64 (ttyS0) Stopping Restore /run/initramfs on shutdown... [ OK

Re: Forcing updates install on shutdown

2018-09-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 9/19/18 1:24 PM, Louis Garcia wrote: Is there a way to have fedora workstation to update on shutdown? When a user logs off or shutdown there box I would like fedora to pkcon update -y or dnf upgrade -y. I thought about creating a systemd unit file to do this but would that conflict with

Re: Forcing updates install on shutdown

2018-09-20 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2018-09-19 at 23:18 +, Rick Stevens wrote: > 95% of the time "dnf --refresh -y upgrade" won't cause issues, but > it's that 5% of the time where it DOES screw up that will drive you > barking mad. Microsoft has had some absolutely horrific problems >

Re: Forcing updates install on shutdown

2018-09-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 9/20/18 8:09 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > Do what you wish, just be bloody careful about it. That's all I'm > saying. Just a FWIW. It has been my experience that those responsible for 100s+ system mostly do their due diligence when it comes to configuring automatic updates.  And those that didn'

Re: Forcing updates install on shutdown

2018-09-19 Thread Louis Garcia
That is what I do. I have a local repo that I sync. Workstations only have the local repo enabled. After I'm satisfied the updates cause no pain I let the rest update. Now my users never bother to update so I end up going around when their are other issues and update as I go. I just wanted to know

Re: Forcing updates install on shutdown

2018-09-19 Thread Rick Stevens
On 9/19/18 4:45 PM, Louis Garcia wrote: > I handle hundreds of workstations, I am not about to manually update > everyone. dnf-automatic the best choice right now. Go right ahead. I'm just warning you. I managed 1500-3000 systems in multiple datacenters world wide and at least that many additiona

Re: Forcing updates install on shutdown

2018-09-19 Thread Louis Garcia
x27;s > that 5% of the time where it DOES screw up that will drive you barking > mad. Microsoft has had some absolutely horrific problems doing this > "upgrade on shutdown" behind the scenes crud and THEY have utter control > of ALL the software being upgraded during the process. T

Re: Forcing updates install on shutdown

2018-09-19 Thread Rick Stevens
of the time "dnf --refresh -y upgrade" won't cause issues, but it's that 5% of the time where it DOES screw up that will drive you barking mad. Microsoft has had some absolutely horrific problems doing this "upgrade on shutdown" behind the scenes crud and THEY have ut

Re: Forcing updates install on shutdown

2018-09-19 Thread Louis Garcia
How well does dnf-automatic work? I often rebuild workstations through pxe and kickstart so a bad update is not an issue. On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 2:36 PM fred roller wrote: > I whole hardheartedly agree with Rick on this point. That being said, > yes, put the script in the shutdown se

Re: Forcing updates install on shutdown

2018-09-19 Thread fred roller
I whole hardheartedly agree with Rick on this point. That being said, yes, put the script in the shutdown sequence. Inject it either first or where ever makes the most since. It has been awhile since I messed with this but I think you need to research manipulation of the rc.local directory files

Re: Forcing updates install on shutdown

2018-09-19 Thread Rick Stevens
On 9/19/18 10:24 AM, Louis Garcia wrote: > Is there a way to have fedora workstation to update on shutdown? When a > user logs off or shutdown there box I would like fedora to pkcon update > -y or dnf upgrade -y. I thought about creating a systemd unit file to do > this but would t

Forcing updates install on shutdown

2018-09-19 Thread Louis Garcia
Is there a way to have fedora workstation to update on shutdown? When a user logs off or shutdown there box I would like fedora to pkcon update -y or dnf upgrade -y. I thought about creating a systemd unit file to do this but would that conflict with offline update? --Thanks

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