Re: [OMPI users] problem with mpirun

2011-11-03 Thread amine mrabet
i instaled last version of openmpi now i have this error I t seems that [at least] one of the processes that was started with mpirun did not invoke MPI_INIT before quitting (it is possible that more than one process did not invoke MPI_INIT -- mpirun was only notified of the first one, which was

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread David Turner
I'm not a systems guy, but I'll pitch in anyway. On our cluster, all the compute nodes are completely diskless. The root file system, including /tmp, resides in memory (ramdisk). OpenMPI puts these session directories therein. All our jobs run through a batch system (torque). At the

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
Thanks for the help. A couple follow-up-questions, maybe this starts to go outside OpenMPI: What's wrong with using /dev/shm? I think you said earlier in this thread that this was not a safe place. If the NFS-mount point is moved from /tmp to /work, would a /tmp magically appear in the

Re: [OMPI users] problem with mpirun

2011-11-03 Thread amine mrabet
yes i have old version i will instal 1.4.4 and see merci 2011/11/3 Jeff Squyres > It sounds like you have an old version of Open MPI that is not ignoring > your unconfigured OpenFabrics devices in your Linux install. This is a > guess because you didn't provide any

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Jeff Squyres
The sm btl is definitely more performant than loopback on other devices. On Nov 3, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Blosch, Edwin L wrote: > I might be missing something here. Is there a side-effect or performance loss > if you don't use the sm btl? Why would it exist if there is a wholly > equivalent

Re: [OMPI users] problem with mpirun

2011-11-03 Thread Jeff Squyres
It sounds like you have an old version of Open MPI that is not ignoring your unconfigured OpenFabrics devices in your Linux install. This is a guess because you didn't provide any information about your Open MPI installation. :-) Try upgrading to a newer version of Open MPI. On Nov 3,

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Ralph Castain
On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Blosch, Edwin L wrote: > I might be missing something here. Is there a side-effect or performance loss > if you don't use the sm btl? Why would it exist if there is a wholly > equivalent alternative? What happens to traffic that is intended for another > process

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
I might be missing something here. Is there a side-effect or performance loss if you don't use the sm btl? Why would it exist if there is a wholly equivalent alternative? What happens to traffic that is intended for another process on the same node? Thanks -Original Message- From:

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Eugene Loh
Right. Actually "--mca btl ^sm". (Was missing "btl".) On 11/3/2011 11:19 AM, Blosch, Edwin L wrote: I don't tell OpenMPI what BTLs to use. The default uses sm and puts a session file on /tmp, which is NFS-mounted and thus not a good choice. Are you suggesting something like --mca ^sm?

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
I don't tell OpenMPI what BTLs to use. The default uses sm and puts a session file on /tmp, which is NFS-mounted and thus not a good choice. Are you suggesting something like --mca ^sm? -Original Message- From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On Behalf

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Jeff Squyres
On Nov 3, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Blosch, Edwin L wrote: > Yes it sucks, so that's what led me to post my original question: If /dev/shm > isn't the right place to put the session file, and /tmp is NFS-mounted, then > what IS the "right" way to set up a diskless cluster? I don't think the idea > of

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: Shared-memory problems

2011-11-03 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
You are right, Ralph. There is no surprise behavior. I had forgotten that I had been testing --mca orte_tmpdir_base /dev/shm to see if it worked (and obviously it doesn't). Before that, without any MCA options, OpenMPI had tried /tmp, and gave me the warning about /tmp being NFS mounted, and

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Eugene Loh
I've not been following closely. Why must one use shared-memory communications? How about using other BTLs in a "loopback" fashion?

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
Cross-thread response here, as this is related to the shared-memory thread: Yes it sucks, so that's what led me to post my original question: If /dev/shm isn't the right place to put the session file, and /tmp is NFS-mounted, then what IS the "right" way to set up a diskless cluster? I don't

Re: [OMPI users] EXTERNAL: Re: Shared-memory problems

2011-11-03 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
In /tmp. -Original Message- From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On Behalf Of Durga Choudhury Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:04 AM To: Open MPI Users Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [OMPI users] Shared-memory problems Since /tmp is mounted across a network

Re: [OMPI users] problem with mpirun

2011-11-03 Thread amine mrabet
i use openmpi in my computer 2011/11/3 Ralph Castain > Couple of things: > > 1. Check the configure cmd line you gave - OMPI thinks your local computer > should have an openib support that isn't correct. > > 2. did you recompile your app on your local computer, using the

Re: [OMPI users] problem with mpirun

2011-11-03 Thread Ralph Castain
Couple of things: 1. Check the configure cmd line you gave - OMPI thinks your local computer should have an openib support that isn't correct. 2. did you recompile your app on your local computer, using the version of OMPI built/installed there? On Nov 3, 2011, at 10:10 AM, amine mrabet

Re: [OMPI users] How to set up state-less node /tmp for OpenMPI usage

2011-11-03 Thread Jeff Squyres
On Nov 1, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Blosch, Edwin L wrote: > I’m getting this message below which is observing correctly that /tmp is > NFS-mounted. But there is no other directory which has user or group write > permissions. So I think I’m kind of stuck, and it sounds like a serious > issue. That

Re: [OMPI users] Shared-memory problems

2011-11-03 Thread Ralph Castain
I'm afraid this isn't correct. You definitely don't want the session directory in /dev/shm as this will almost always cause problems. We look thru a progression of envars to find where to put the session directory: 1. the MCA param orte_tmpdir_base 2. the envar OMPI_PREFIX_ENV 3. the envar

[OMPI users] problem with mpirun

2011-11-03 Thread amine mrabet
hey , i use mpirun tu run program with using mpi this program worked well in university computer but with mine i have this error i run with amine@dellam:~/Bureau$ mpirun -np 2 pl and i have this error libibverbs: Fatal: couldn't read uverbs ABI version.

Re: [OMPI users] Shared-memory problems

2011-11-03 Thread Durga Choudhury
Since /tmp is mounted across a network and /dev/shm is (always) local, /dev/shm seems to be the right place for shared memory transactions. If you create temporary files using mktemp is it being created in /dev/shm or /tmp? On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Bogdan Costescu

Re: [OMPI users] Shared-memory problems

2011-11-03 Thread Bogdan Costescu
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 15:54, Blosch, Edwin L wrote: > -    /dev/shm is 12 GB and has 755 permissions > ... > % ls –l output: > > drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 40 Oct 28 09:14 shm This is your problem: it should be something like drwxrwxrwt. It might depend on the

Re: [OMPI users] Shared-memory problems

2011-11-03 Thread Ralph Castain
On Nov 3, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Blosch, Edwin L wrote: > Can anyone guess what the problem is here? I was under the impression that > OpenMPI (1.4.4) would look for /tmp and would create its shared-memory > backing file there, i.e. if you don’t set orte_tmpdir_base to anything. That is correct

[OMPI users] Shared-memory problems

2011-11-03 Thread Blosch, Edwin L
Can anyone guess what the problem is here? I was under the impression that OpenMPI (1.4.4) would look for /tmp and would create its shared-memory backing file there, i.e. if you don't set orte_tmpdir_base to anything. Well, there IS a /tmp and yet it appears that OpenMPI has chosen to use

[OMPI users] Graph 500 execution time was increased by up to 11-fold over MPI

2011-11-03 Thread bhimesh akula
Hi, we have done with testing OFED stack by using openmpi but still want to check OFED stack with GRAPH 500.I heard about Graph 500 benchmark test but don't have enough information on net regarding,how to use it.I posted here as it was a hope that MPI people know about these. Please can u