Re: Real World User Issues with Maven

2008-03-23 Thread Joshua ChaitinPollak
On Mar 23, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Siarhei Dudzin wrote: Just a few ideas... * In *my* opinion, the idea of having an equivalent of ant -P or a readme.txt defeats the whole idea of maven as it uses *standard* build lifecycle. People need to be made aware of that. That's true, up to a point, howeve

Re: Real World User Issues with Maven

2008-03-23 Thread Siarhei Dudzin
Just a few ideas... * In *my* opinion, the idea of having an equivalent of ant -P or a readme.txt defeats the whole idea of maven as it uses *standard* build lifecycle. People need to be made aware of that. * Of course there is a learning curve, give them an introduction presentation so that they

Re: Real World User Issues with Maven

2008-03-23 Thread Graham Leggett
Joshua ChaitinPollak wrote: I just polled the rest of my development team for who still uses our ant build system and why. One view from the maven side - one thing the ant people should never do, is hold your release procedures to ransom. We have a large project that has as one of its core

Re: Real World User Issues with Maven

2008-03-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Hi Wendy -- On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Patrick Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > 1. "mvn deploy" on the top level - I only want to deploy the war (which > is > > in the 'web' module). Mvn deploys everything

Re: Real World User Issues with Maven

2008-03-22 Thread Joshua ChaitinPollak
Thanks to everyone who replied, I justed wanted to point out some issues with switching to Maven, since the developers asked what complaints Maven evangelists were seeing. On Mar 21, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Brian E. Fox wrote: Thanks for the feedback Joshua, a few comments below: 1) I can't do

RE: Real World User Issues with Maven

2008-03-22 Thread P'Simer, Dana (Matrix)
It sounds like you are struggling with some of the same issues I am. I was asked recently to change our build system from ant to maven. In fact, I did not want to use maven. I felt that our needs did not warrant it and thought that Ivy would do well to solve our biggest problem, dependency manag

Re: Real World User Issues with Maven

2008-03-21 Thread Stuart McCulloch
On 21/03/2008, Patrick Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comments > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Brian E. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >2) We have lots of ant run-* targets I like to use. > > >My response: Letting them know of the mvnrun script I've checked into > > >our sour

Re: Real World User Issues with Maven

2008-03-21 Thread Wendy Smoak
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Patrick Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. "mvn deploy" on the top level - I only want to deploy the war (which is > in the 'web' module). Mvn deploys everything. Not at all obvious how to > change that behavior. Rather than spend any more time on this issue,

Re: Real World User Issues with Maven

2008-03-21 Thread Patrick Moore
Comments On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Brian E. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the feedback Joshua, a few comments below: > > >1) I can't do the equivalent of ant -projecthelp > >Pointing out that all the common maven commands are documented on the > >wiki doesn't seem to alle

RE: Real World User Issues with Maven

2008-03-21 Thread Brian E. Fox
Thanks for the feedback Joshua, a few comments below: >1) I can't do the equivalent of ant -projecthelp >Pointing out that all the common maven commands are documented on the >wiki doesn't seem to alleviate this concern, which I admit really >puzzles me. Has anyone else encountered this compla

Real World User Issues with Maven

2008-03-21 Thread Joshua ChaitinPollak
We've been living with parallel Ant and Maven build systems for 6 to 9 months now, and most developers are mostly onto Maven, but some still use Ant from time to time. I just polled the rest of my development team for who still uses our ant build system and why. So Maven core developers,