Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-08 Thread Werner Punz
Yee CN schrieb: > Eclipse + myEclipseIDE is performing OK. For one thing eclipse is not > opening every file you have - only the ones you left opened in your last > session. For that matter starting up time is rather independent of the size > of the project. > > In my 3yr old notebook eclipse + my

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-08 Thread Werner Punz
Yee CN schrieb: > Is there any supports for Facelets in JDeveloper or JSC? I am using > MyEclipse – and I am seriously looking for an alternative. > > > > Regards, > > Yee > There is only one IDE I am aware of with some facelets support, and that one is Exadel. Given the bumpy ride this IDE h

RE: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-04 Thread Igor Marakov
JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator Can you guys tell how well your IDEs would perform with large apps? I was trying to get an app with 200 jspx files (admittedly, rather large) up and running in JDeveloper, and the thing didn't start up until after 10min. Is work being done on making

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-04 Thread Udo Schnurpfeil
March 2006 6:35 PM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator Can you guys tell how well your IDEs would perform with large apps? I was trying to get an app with 200 jspx files (admittedly, rather large) up and running in JDeveloper, and the thing didn&

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-04 Thread Martin Marinschek
e changed files. > > > Regards, > > Matthias > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag > > von Martin Marinschek > > Gesendet: Samstag, 4. März 2006 11:36 > > An: MyFaces Discussion > > Betref

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-04 Thread Martin Marinschek
/JSF validation is the culprit. I have > 50+ xhtmls - and it takes the order of 10min to compile. > > Regards, > Yee > > -Original Message- > From: Martin Marinschek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, 4 March 2006 6:35 PM > To: MyFaces Discussion > Subje

RE: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-04 Thread Yee CN
Discussion Subject: Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator Can you guys tell how well your IDEs would perform with large apps? I was trying to get an app with 200 jspx files (admittedly, rather large) up and running in JDeveloper, and the thing didn't start up until after 10min

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-04 Thread Jurgen Lust
This is a problem we had with OC4J as well, although it was the previous version, 10.1.2. When compared to JBoss, it would take a very, very long time to deploy an application, especially when EJBs were involved, sometimes at least 10 times as long. That's one of the main reasons we eventually

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-04 Thread Legolas Woodland
Martin Marinschek wrote: Thing = embedded OC4j in JDeveloper. I didn't try JSC so far - would the performance be better there? Any experiences? regards, Martin No performance is not better there. you will hang for ever in case that you open a project with 200 jsp files. best IDE that

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-04 Thread Martin Marinschek
Thing = embedded OC4j in JDeveloper. I didn't try JSC so far - would the performance be better there? Any experiences? regards, Martin On 3/4/06, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you guys tell how well your IDEs would perform with large apps? > > I was trying to get an app wit

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-04 Thread Martin Marinschek
Can you guys tell how well your IDEs would perform with large apps? I was trying to get an app with 200 jspx files (admittedly, rather large) up and running in JDeveloper, and the thing didn't start up until after 10min. Is work being done on making this situation better? Maybe I'm doing somethi

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-03 Thread Adam Winer
On 3/3/06, Yee CN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Is there any supports for Facelets in JDeveloper or JSC? I am using > MyEclipse – and I am seriously looking for an alternative. Unfortunately not. Facelets has come on strong basically at exactly the wrong point in the development cycle for JD

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-03 Thread Adam Winer
On 3/3/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 3/3/06, Adam Winer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why can't JSC just run the component and actually let it render > > itself by default? I know that's what JDeveloper does, and > > it works well. > > > Creator does that too, and it

RE: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-03 Thread Yee CN
Discussion Subject: Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator     On 3/3/06, Adam Winer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why can't JSC just run the component and actually let it render itself by default?  I know that's what JDeveloper does, and it works well. Creat

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-03 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 3/3/06, Adam Winer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why can't JSC just run the component and actually let it renderitself by default?  I know that's what JDeveloper does, andit works well. Creator does that too, and it definitely works well ... the only *required* additional code is a BeanInfo class (

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-03 Thread Adam Winer
Why can't JSC just run the component and actually let it render itself by default? I know that's what JDeveloper does, and it works well. As a component developer (I've never worked on JDeveloper itself at all, to be explicit), I really dislike the idea of writing a bunch of extra Java code for a

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-03 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 3/3/06, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Craig McClanahan schrieb:> Dealing with this issue is one of the things I definitely want to> participate in here.  The Creator team is finishing up some tutorials on> this that will help, and I'm doing the same thing in Shale to integrate > the cou

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-03 Thread Werner Punz
Craig McClanahan schrieb: > Dealing with this issue is one of the things I definitely want to > participate in here. The Creator team is finishing up some tutorials on > this that will help, and I'm doing the same thing in Shale to integrate > the couple of non-visual components it has (subview,

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-02 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 3/2/06, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mike Duffy schrieb:> Thx Werner.>> Do you know if Java Studio Creator supports MyFaces and Tomahawk?>> Mike>Not viusally yet, the problem is, that the JSC needs some additional classes and config files which handle the visual part (actually most ifn

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-02 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 3/2/06, Mike Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Darn.Does JSC have a component library that compares favorably with ADF Faces? Color me biased :-), but ... Creator 2 does indeed come with a component library above and beyond the standard ones.  It's smaller than the ADF one (about 40 componen

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-02 Thread Mike Duffy
Darn. Does JSC have a component library that compares favorably with ADF Faces? Mike --- Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Duffy schrieb: > > Thx Werner. > > > > Do you know if Java Studio Creator supports MyFaces and Tomahawk? > > > > Mike > > > Not viusally yet, the problem

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-02 Thread Adam Winer
FWIW, JDeveloper does support MyFaces as a custom taglib, with visual editing, no need for any bonus config files. There's extra metadata you can add to improve the editing experience, which is the basis of JSR 276 (this metadata should be standardized), but you don't need any of it. I don't know

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-02 Thread Werner Punz
Mike Duffy schrieb: Thx Werner. Do you know if Java Studio Creator supports MyFaces and Tomahawk? Mike Not viusally yet, the problem is, that the JSC needs some additional classes and config files which handle the visual part (actually most if not all IDEs do) nobody has done that yet, you h

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-02 Thread Legolas Woodland
Mike Duffy wrote: Thx Werner. Do you know if Java Studio Creator supports MyFaces and Tomahawk? Mike It does not support MyFaces and Tomahawk in its designer. so you can not import them into JSC and use them in its page designer , until you make some required files that represent each

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-02 Thread Mike Duffy
Thx Werner. Do you know if Java Studio Creator supports MyFaces and Tomahawk? Mike --- Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well studio creator2 only covers the client side aspects > currently, jdeveloper is a full blown enterprise ide, with ejb3 > support case tools etc... > > studio cre

Re: How Does JDeveloper Compare with Java Studio Creator

2006-03-02 Thread Werner Punz
Well studio creator2 only covers the client side aspects currently, jdeveloper is a full blown enterprise ide, with ejb3 support case tools etc... studio creator follows the absolut layout via css approach. Both ides use heavily their own component sets (well parts of ADF have been opensourced) T