Re: Understanding JSF/MyFaces

2006-12-08 Thread Simon Kitching
lightbulb432 wrote: Simon Kitching-3 wrote: Yep. That's why there is an option to encrypt the client-side state. However in general it's not necessary; all the user can do is stuff up their own use of the app. Remember that all JSF does is pass data through to managed beans that then impleme

Re: Understanding JSF/MyFaces

2006-12-08 Thread lightbulb432
d be simply solved by setting the page to not be cached.) Is it similar to the issue with, for example, online banking, where you click the back button and it gives a browser error? What is the back button issue, and how does JSF help to resolve it? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://

Re: Understanding JSF/MyFaces

2006-12-08 Thread Simon Kitching
lightbulb432 wrote: Thanks for your response. Which is a good class to set the first breakpoint in, from which I could follow out the rest of the processing? Would it be in the generated servlet, in some kind of interceptor class (if using JBoss), the Faces Servlet, or where? You might find th

RE: Understanding JSF/MyFaces

2006-12-08 Thread albartell
>Unless you plan on being a myfaces core contributor, saying you need to know all of the internals in order to understand the concepts is like saying you need to see all of the trees before in order to understand you're looking at a forest. That's a pretty big jump you labeled me with. I am sayin

Re: Understanding JSF/MyFaces

2006-12-08 Thread Mike Kienenberger
On 12/8/06, lightbulb432 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If there's absolutely no information stored on the server, then (assuming somebody could unencrypt the content of those fields) technically somebody could alter the hidden field values, resubmit the form and see something different from what the

Re: Understanding JSF/MyFaces

2006-12-08 Thread Mike Kienenberger
On 12/8/06, Nebinger, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For client side state saving, no state information will be kept on the server (your session information you've stored is still safe). You normally choose this option when you have large views to deal with or you are serving many end users

RE: Understanding JSF/MyFaces

2006-12-08 Thread Nebinger, David
> Which is a good class to set the first breakpoint in, from > which I could > follow out the rest of the processing? Would it be in the > generated servlet, > in some kind of interceptor class (if using JBoss), the Faces > Servlet, or > where? I guess if you want to know it all you'd have to s

RE: Understanding JSF/MyFaces

2006-12-08 Thread Nebinger, David
> >Dude, you're getting yourself bogged down on things that you > typically > don't need to understand. > > I would disagree. This speaks to what I am trying to > accomplish right now > with my datascroller problem. I didn't understand some of > the details of > datascroller when I implemen

RE: Understanding JSF/MyFaces

2006-12-08 Thread albartell
>Dude, you're getting yourself bogged down on things that you typically don't need to understand. I would disagree. This speaks to what I am trying to accomplish right now with my datascroller problem. I didn't understand some of the details of datascroller when I implemented it, and now I hav

RE: Understanding JSF/MyFaces

2006-12-08 Thread lightbulb432
at least on a conceptual level) what's going on the in framework or tool that they're using. Not to mention the fact that developers often (if not VERY often) need to justify these development choices to others within their organizations. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://

RE: Understanding JSF/MyFaces

2006-12-08 Thread Nebinger, David
> How do each of these form fields help JSF do what it does? > MyFaces is a > wonderful tool, but I'd like to understand "how" it does what > it does (on a > high enough level that it might be explained in a couple of > detailed replies > to this post)...because right now it seems a bit "too" tr

Understanding JSF/MyFaces

2006-12-08 Thread lightbulb432
ally in those hidden fields) or what? Does the server really store no state whatsoever about a particular client? I've read the manuals and tutorials, but I'm still confused on these issues. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Understanding-JSF-MyFaces-tf2782475.html#a7763279 Sent from the MyFaces - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.