Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom -- Top-posting Troll/Idiot

2007-11-27 Thread Bruce Roorda
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 27 November 2007 13:10, Bruce Roorda wrote: I have only one small quibble with that; I think it should be "Never argue with an idiot, he will drag you down..." Surely you meant "he or she" and it was a typo? ;-) Lisi No, "he" a

[users] Method for starting thread

2007-11-27 Thread Bruce Roorda
Jonathan Kaye wrote: Bruce Roorda wrote: Well, threading often is done by email clients in accordance with the words in the subject line, but thank you for pointing out that some work differently. I would be interested to know which those are. Manfred J. Krause pointed out that one

[users] Re: Top versus bottom -- Top-posting Troll/Idiot

2007-11-27 Thread Bruce Roorda
Well, your point, and that of many others seems to be that top posting is contrary to common practice on the lists you participate in. Further, you find it inconvenient or unclear and believe that others do, too. Forgive me for enjoying your posts, but you haven't said anything new on the su

Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom - Name calling

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
Dave Barton wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 11:16, Bruce Roorda wrote: Well, I have seen some very rude posts to inexperienced users who top 8<-- snip -->8 Bruce: I care not a fig for the preferences of an e-list environment, only for the people. bg: It is neither possible nor des

Re: [users] Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
is replies. 8-) Cor Nouws wrote: Bruce Roorda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I much prefer top posting. If I've been following the thread, I want the new post first. I've already seen the others. What might help, is knowing that hitting the space bar, will scroll down. So yo

Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
Robin Laing wrote: Top posting is a Microsoft plan to upset the balance of the universe. Finally a point I can relate to. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[users] Re: Top versus bottom

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
e found that works pretty well for the rest of those who may read it. As for you, eschew obfuscation! Some newbie may be frightened off if he thinks he's in an "e-list environment". (Your post was actually pretty entertaining.) bg wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 11:16, Bruce Roor

Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
Most of the interspersed posts I have seen have not been particularly clear, and become less clear as more posters reply. NoOp wrote: Please try to follow the guidelines for the list you are on. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [E

Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom/Bruce

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
Well, I have seen some very rude posts to inexperienced users who top posted, despite the fact that you "call BS" on the assertion. (That's a very colorful and amusing phrase.) And you do make quite an eloquent case that your preference should be the rule, on the basis of history. There are

Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
I looked Kmail up; I like the features. I'm pretty much stuck with Windows however. Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 26 November 2007 13:36, Bruce Roorda wrote: Today 13:36:08 Well, threading often is done by email clients in accordance with the words in the subject line, but thank yo

Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
Bottom posting has not been universally used, but seems to be the most common practice here. However, I have seen inexperienced posters berated for top posting by others who want to impose their own preferences as rules. My own practice, despite my preference for top posting, is to follow the

Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
I'm sorry, I don't agree. bg wrote: It's real simple, folks: forget all the other kinds of email venues - in a listserv environment, with multiposter threads, the only logical way to read these connected messages is IN THE ORDER THEY WERE WRITTEN! Backwards, chronologically, doesn't cut it. -

Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
Well, I do agree that is confusing. Manfred J. Krause wrote: [correction:] 2007/11/26, Manfred J. Krause wrote: [...] ... bottom vs./and top posting inside a bottom posted posting ... meant: -> ... combined bottom vs./and top posting inside a bottom posted posting as reply to a top posted

Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
Thanks for the explanation. I think it would have been clearer if it had been top-posted, but as I have said before, that's a matter of preference. I do appreciate the time you put into composing an informative post. Richard Travers wrote: *Hint - the Reference and In-Reply-To headers of

Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
describe, and perhaps that's standard for such sites. I will be happy consider that difference in future. Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 26 November 2007 12:21, Bruce Roorda wrote: The subject line of the message to which you replied was "[users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again&qu

Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
2007/11/26, Bruce Roorda: The subject line of the message to which you replied was "[users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again". So, a new thread was started, just as you ask. What more do you want? Please pay attention. have a look at <http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.c

Re: [users] Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
So it appears you are saying that neither top or bottom posting is "correct", rather one should try to be clear and considerate? Hallelujah! One other point -- I don't think that one gets flamed for top posting on serious lists. Flaming for posting order (top or bottom) pretty much preclude

Re: [users] Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
I'm sorry, but I find your reply neither clear nor concise. Perhaps you should try it like this reply. I agree with the last paragraph of your message as shown below. Frank Cox wrote: See? Cutting it that way retains the basic meaning, intent and focus of the previous message without repea

Re: [users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-26 Thread Bruce Roorda
The subject line of the message to which you replied was "[users] Re: Top versus bottom posting yet again". So, a new thread was started, just as you ask. What more do you want? Please pay attention. Jonathan Kaye wrote: Sorry but I was following the thread about OOo popup interference an

Re: [users] Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-25 Thread Bruce Roorda
I'm sorry, I thought what you had written was important. My bad. Frank Cox wrote: Which, of course, you failed to do. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [users] Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-25 Thread Bruce Roorda
I disagree that bottom posting is "correct". It is merely a matter of preference, sometimes strong preference. I have a very strong preference against posting replies inline, but I do not assert that my preference is correct. I recognize that some people find bottom posting preferable, just a

[users] Top versus bottom posting yet again

2007-11-25 Thread Bruce Roorda
I much prefer top posting. If I've been following the thread, I want the new post first. I've already seen the others. You should post the question "> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?" in one post, then post the answer "> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read

Re: [users] Re: page orientation

2007-11-24 Thread Bruce Roorda
marra winsome wrote: Steven Hunlow wrote and email(see below) he seemed somewhat savey of the differences between OO and Excel. All I wish to know is how to I get OO to print in a landscape orientation. It will not "take" this orientation, and will always print in portrait format. Can yo

Re: [users] Caption Category

2007-11-24 Thread Bruce Roorda
jnk wrote: How do I add a new caption category to the list of default categories? The default categories include Table, Text, Illustration. I want to add "Figure", and to use this category for cross references. Thank you. Type "Figure" in the category box, either in the dialog for setti

Re: [users] Label printing

2007-11-23 Thread Bruce Roorda
OOo Writer 2.3 is a little different from earlier versions, but the key to getting multiple sheets of labels seems to be doing a mail merger rather than just adding data to the fields. Brian Blandford wrote: A problem with printing address labels (OO 2.3): Having followed exactly the instructi

Re: [users] Re: Hello A folt with OPen Orrifice.

2007-11-20 Thread Bruce Roorda
callmeshane wrote: Naa not buying any of your clubby You guys are just Period. This is probably not the first forum on which you've played your juvenile tricks, and you seem to find yourself quite entertaining. It can't last. If you have a friend, in four or five years he will gradu

Re: [users] Re: Hello A folt with OPen Orrifice.

2007-11-20 Thread Bruce Roorda
callmeshane wrote: H the respondees must be Americans 15 different opinions... ONE party useful answer... Lots of stinking judgement about some they have never met, never had anything to do with, and have never actually asked or verified ideas, motivations or perceptions with...

Re: [users] I am using Calc of open office.org

2007-11-08 Thread Bruce Roorda
your spreadsheet file, then select the sheet or named range within the file that you want and then click the "define" button. Sorry to be a little too brief, but must run. The process is easier done than said. Bruce Roorda Possum Hill Farm -

Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2007-11-04 Thread Bruce Roorda
John Collins wrote: How much will this actually cost per month ? Or is it free for life ? Open Office seems like a great product and I would like to know? OpenOffice.org is completely free. I have been using it since version 1. -

Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2007-11-01 Thread Bruce Roorda
Ellane wrote: I have several questions about downloading your free software OpenOffice. I hope that you’ll take the time to respond. 1. How am I otherwise obligated to our company once I download your free software? No strings attached. 2. Will I have to pay to continue u

Re: [users] Page Style Organizer, "Linked with"

2007-10-31 Thread Bruce Roorda
PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AFAIK it's a featured that is not implemented, so you can't do anything with it. Bruce Roorda Possum Hill Farm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For ad

Re: [users] Shit program!

2007-10-28 Thread Bruce Roorda
workz?!?!?! I is pissed! Fuck ya! A stunning example of both technical and linguistic incompetence! Is there anything you can do? Bruce Roorda Possum Hill Farm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands

Re: [users] [moderated]

2007-10-24 Thread Bruce Roorda
nu bar and make sure that there is a check mark beside "Nonprinting Characters". Then you should be able to see how many the number of spaces between words. If that is the problem, deleting the extra spaces should get rid of the gray. Bruce Roo

Re: [users] How to download open office!

2007-10-24 Thread Bruce Roorda
;s working at 17:48 GMT 24Oct07. Bruce Roorda Possum Hill Farm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [users] Globally changing margins in OpenOffice?

2007-10-23 Thread Bruce Roorda
able fields in the header. If you don't want the text you've entered in the Show Variable fields to be visible on the first page of the chapter, check the "invisible box" on the field dialog. That way you'll have only two page styles and changing the format

Re: [users] Printing Brochures..........help!

2007-10-22 Thread Bruce Roorda
Stephanie Boulee wrote: Bruce Roorda wrote: Stephanie Boulee wrote: Bruce Roorda wrote: Stephanie Boulee wrote: OKAY, so here goes. I am attempting to print a document as a brochure in Writer. Every time I try, though the pages are /usually /in the right order, the margins are not

Re: [users] Printing Brochures..........help!

2007-10-22 Thread Bruce Roorda
Stephanie Boulee wrote: Bruce Roorda wrote: Stephanie Boulee wrote: OKAY, so here goes. I am attempting to print a document as a brochure in Writer. Every time I try, though the pages are /usually /in the right order, the margins are not maintained, causing me to lose part of the text

Re: [users] Printing Brochures..........help!

2007-10-22 Thread Bruce Roorda
inter Settings, make sure your printer is set up for letter size paper in landscape mode; your document uses half-letter pages in portrait mode while the printer uses letter sheets in landscape mode. If your printer has a booklet or brochure mode, make sure it is off. Try a small document th

Re: [users] APA formatting tips

2007-10-21 Thread Bruce Roorda
uot;Insert" on the menu bar, then move to "Fields", then click "Page Number". Bruce Roorda Possum Hill Farm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [users] APA formatting tips

2007-10-20 Thread Bruce Roorda
r the same for recto and verso? Does every single page of your document have a header? Bruce Roorda Possum Hill Farm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [users] export to Wort DOC format and images

2007-10-15 Thread Bruce Roorda
Zinger, Alexey (GE, Corporate, consultant) wrote: -Original Message- From: Bruce Roorda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 17:07 To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] export to Wort DOC format and images Zinger, Alexey (GE, Corporate, consultant

Re: [users] export to Wort DOC format and images

2007-10-15 Thread Bruce Roorda
#x27;d think this is something that others have encountered. You might try disabling hardware acceleration in the display settings on the computer with Word. Bruce Roorda Possum Hill Farm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL P

Re: [users] First Page Header Only

2007-10-14 Thread Bruce Roorda
for all other pages. Bruce Roorda Possum Hill Farm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [users] MAIL MERGE W/SPREADSHEET IN CALC

2007-10-07 Thread Bruce Roorda
turn to your label document and click "Synchronize labels". Note that you want to print a mail merge rather than filling the labels from the database. In the first case you'll get all the names, in the second you will get only one page of labels. Bruce Roorda Possum Hill Fa

Re: [users] Writer add on to enable change case to Title case

2007-10-06 Thread Bruce Roorda
of every word except and, the etc.? Bruce Roorda Possum Hill Farm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [users] Problem with the formating of an existing .doc file when using Writer

2007-10-05 Thread Bruce Roorda
es in how OOo Writer and M$ Word specify the positions of frames, text boxes and pictures. Problem is compounded when you have frames within frames. That is the least compatible feature between them that I have found. In other respects I am quite satisfied with their compatibility. Bruce Roo

[users] Label mail merge

2007-10-03 Thread Bruce Roorda
ply to this message or put something like "Label mail merge" in the subject. Bruce Roorda Possum Hill Farm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]