Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-24 Thread Lindsay Graham
easier if more posters used meaningful subjects) - Original Message - From: Michele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-24 Thread James Knott
Joe Conner wrote: BIG SNIP Not my fault. Point 2 of http://www.our-kids.org/Archives/email_netiquette.html little snip Just wondering, since when does our-kids.org dictate policy for OpenOffice.org? I was thinking the same. Apparently we're supposed to follow a policy most of us

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 24 January 2008 12:25, James Knott wrote: Joe Conner wrote: BIG SNIP Not my fault. Point 2 of http://www.our-kids.org/Archives/email_netiquette.html little snip Just wondering, since when does our-kids.org dictate policy for OpenOffice.org? I was thinking the

Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-24 Thread Troll/Idiot
Lindsay Graham wrote: Well said, Michele. Maybe Marco's way of approaching things is not to everyone's liking, but his basic suggestion/request was not only reasonable, but its acceptance would be of help and assistance to all users of this list. To rudely refer to his requests as

[users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread dhlocker
[Top-posting alert] [Note subject line changed to more meaningful content.] And when did this become your personal list, Marco? James K's help, with or without meaningful subjects is far more helpful than this sniping. I know, you said thank you. It's still cheap shots at a valuable

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread James Knott
M. Fioretti wrote: I'm trying this way since repeated discussions on list and a direct request off list seem to have gone completely unnoticed. James, the whole list agreed just a couple of weeks ago that sending REPLIES to messages with meaningless empty subjects like [users][moderated]

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 23/01/2008, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps the proper method is to fix the web site, so that a user cannot submit the problem, until a subject has been entered. I've often been to web sites, where I cannot proceed, until all mandatory fields are filled. Many of those sites

Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, January 23, 2008 1:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And when did this become your personal list, Marco? It isn't, obviously. I have made very clear that I was just reminding a practice that EVERYBODY on the list, just a few days ago, agreed on as the most sensible one, one much more

Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 23/01/2008, M. Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, January 23, 2008 1:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And when did this become your personal list, Marco? It isn't, obviously. I have made very clear that I was just reminding a practice that EVERYBODY on the list, just a few days

Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread Michele
[Note subject line changed to more meaningful content.] And when did this become your personal list, Marco? James K's help, with or without meaningful subjects is far more helpful than this sniping. I know, you said thank you. It's still cheap shots at a valuable contributor. I have to

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, January 23, 2008 3:00 pm, James Knott wrote: I ignore those discussions, as they often turn into flame wars, so I didn't see any such agreement. Care to post it? Search the threads The right way to recognize and manage unsubscribed users To moderators and all volunteers of OOo users

Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, January 23, 2008 3:27 pm, Harold Fuchs wrote: At the last count there were around 2400 users subscribed to this list. I don't remember any consensus on any subject. See my answer to James and Donald, or the one from Michele, which confirmed what I said. I'ts not my fault if you lost

Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all :-) Due to some work, I tend to skip mails in threads like these. Sometimes I read a few lines and think: wish we could accept that we are not all the same, that we could accept that people sometimes would like us to be the same as themselves (as I do ;-) ), that we could accept that

Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread Michele
... and that we can better continue in doing what we are good: helping users with questions about OpenOffice.org Hello Cor, Actually the purpose of this request is to improve the quality (actually I should say quantity) of our answers to users about OpenOffice.org. You may have noticed that

Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Michele, Michele wrote (23-1-2008 16:23) ... and that we can better continue in doing what we are good: helping users with questions about OpenOffice.org Actually the purpose of this request is to improve the quality (actually I should say quantity) of our answers to users about

Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, January 23, 2008 4:23 pm, Michele wrote: ... and that we can better continue in doing what we are good: helping users with questions about OpenOffice.org Hello Cor, Actually the purpose of this request is to improve the quality (actually I should say quantity) of our answers to

Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread Troll/Idiot
Cor Nouws wrote: Only somewhere along the lines of these discussions, things (sometimes) tend to lose track (is this English? I mean as 'a train that gets off the rails'. Which is something we say in the Netherlands when something goes in a not intended direction). Ciao, Cor Cor, Here

Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread Cor Nouws
Troll/Idiot wrote (23-1-2008 16:46) Here are some train or track related expressions (U.S. English) that might apply to some list threads. [...] Thanks! -- The Year of 3 -2008- Het jaar van 3 Cor Nouws Arnhem - Netherlands - nl.OpenOffice.org - marketing contact

Re: [users] Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 23/01/2008, Troll/Idiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are some train or track related expressions (U.S. English) that might apply to some list threads. We might lose track of our original subject. The discussion might be derailed, go off the tracks like a train accident. We might be

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread James Knott
Harold Fuchs wrote: On 23/01/2008, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps the proper method is to fix the web site, so that a user cannot submit the problem, until a subject has been entered. I've often been to web sites, where I cannot proceed, until all mandatory fields are filled.

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 23/01/2008 18:32, James Knott wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: On 23/01/2008, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps the proper method is to fix the web site, so that a user cannot submit the problem, until a subject has been entered. I've often been to web sites, where I cannot

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread James Knott
Harold Fuchs wrote: Why is it that the web site cannot insist on a subject and then include it? Because that would require work by the web site's administrator. So, you treat the symptoms and not the disease? -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org

[users] OT Re: Marco - please stop trying to dictate the list's behaviour (was Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?)

2008-01-23 Thread Twayne
M. Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, January 23, 2008 1:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And when did this become your personal list, Marco? It isn't, obviously. I have made very clear that I was just reminding a practice that EVERYBODY on the list, just a few days ago, agreed on as

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 23/01/2008 19:15, James Knott wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: Why is it that the web site cannot insist on a subject and then include it? Because that would require work by the web site's administrator. So, you treat the symptoms and not the disease? Sorry, I don't understand your

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread James Knott
Harold Fuchs wrote: On 23/01/2008 19:15, James Knott wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: Why is it that the web site cannot insist on a subject and then include it? Because that would require work by the web site's administrator. So, you treat the symptoms and not the disease? Sorry, I don't

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 15:18:18 PM -0500, James Knott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Why is it that the web site cannot insist on a subject and then include it? ... Since your comment was intended to be sarcasm, then my comment is directed at the site admin and not you. It just seems strange that

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread James Knott
M. Fioretti wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 15:18:18 PM -0500, James Knott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Why is it that the web site cannot insist on a subject and then include it? ... Since your comment was intended to be sarcasm, then my comment is directed at the site

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 17:29:38 PM -0500, James Knott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well, if it's too much bother to fix the web site, it's too much bother for me to fix the subjects. All this has nothing to do with how much bother it is to fix the website and for who. I have spent far too much

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread James Knott
M. Fioretti wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 17:29:38 PM -0500, James Knott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Well, if it's too much bother to fix the web site, it's too much bother for me to fix the subjects. All this has nothing to do with how much bother it is to fix the website and for

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 20:33:20 PM -0500, James Knott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The problem here, is not the subject lines. It's the way you seem to think you run the list. Are you a moderator? Also, take a look at some of your posts. Such as from Jan 5 And I am demanding that everybody

Re: [users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-23 Thread Joe Conner
BIG SNIP Not my fault. Point 2 of http://www.our-kids.org/Archives/email_netiquette.html little snip Just wondering, since when does our-kids.org dictate policy for OpenOffice.org? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

[users] James K., may you please stop sending answers without meaningful subjects?

2008-01-22 Thread M. Fioretti
I'm trying this way since repeated discussions on list and a direct request off list seem to have gone completely unnoticed. James, the whole list agreed just a couple of weeks ago that sending REPLIES to messages with meaningless empty subjects like [users][moderated] WITHOUT replacing that