Rs: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

On Friday 03 September 2004 09:17 pm, Theo Van Dinter wrote: - SpamAssassin now includes support for SPF (the Sender Policy Framework, http://spf.pobox.com/). Why bother with this? http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/31/HNspammerstudy_1.html Although others have already given reasons why, I

RE: Mass-check errors

I took out the language options, and it runs standalone. With debug: perl -d:DProf ./mass-check -c=/etc/mail/spamassassin/test --net --mbox /var/spool/procmail/tempfail I get: Segmentation fault Any suggestions? <>

RE: Mass-check errors

> -Original Message- > From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 3:56 PM > To: Smart,Dan > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Mass-check errors > Hrm. In theory, it'll only happen if you specify ok_languages. > Otherwise I would try expl

Re: Bayes scoring weirdness?

At 05:15 PM 9/7/2004, Justin Mason wrote: BTW the idea of USER_IN_BLACKLIST being ignored for bayes is so that if a user screws up and accidentally BLs a ham source, it won't pollute Bayes as well. I think in 3.0.0 we've added more logic so that it won't be learned *at all* in that situation -- not

RE: Bayes scoring weirdness?

Ok, I see how it's happening. Now, 'why'? Can you point me to some documentation that explains why it's desirable to ignore certain types of tests? Maybe I'm being thick, but I'm not finding it in the Wiki or docs. Thanks, Chris -Original Message- From: Theo Van D

Re: Bayes scoring weirdness?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: > On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:32:42PM -0600, Chris Blaise wrote: > > The rules were ALL_TRUSTED,MISSING_DATE,USER_IN_BLACKLIST and I > > think since "ALL_TRUSTED" is a negative value. > > > > Am I missing something abou

Re: Mass-check errors

On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 03:27:25PM -0500, Smart,Dan wrote: > Use of uninitialized value in open at > /root/.cpan/build/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.64/masses/../lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Tex > tCat.pm line 63. > cannot open languages: No such file or directory > > What do I need to do to bypass this error. Hr

Mass-check errors

When I try to run mass-check on an MBOX file I get the following Use of uninitialized value in open at /root/.cpan/build/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.64/masses/../lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Tex tCat.pm line 63. cannot open languages: No such file or directory What do I need to do to bypass this error. I'm

Re: Bayes scoring weirdness?

On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:32:42PM -0600, Chris Blaise wrote: > The rules were ALL_TRUSTED,MISSING_DATE,USER_IN_BLACKLIST and I > think since "ALL_TRUSTED" is a negative value. > > Am I missing something about how auto-learn should consider this? > > Is there a reason why it d

Bayes scoring weirdness?

In experimenting with white/blacklists and bayes, I got a message that was in a blacklist but learned as ham! 2004 Sep 7 14:22:02 server spamd[8949]: identified spam (197.2/5.0) for nobody:8 in 0.6 seconds, 191 bytes. 2004 Sep 7 14:22:02 server spamd[8949]: logmsg: result: Y 197 - ALL_T

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Re: Learning the ropes

>William Stearns wrote: >Ronald I. Nutter wrote: >Chris Santerre wrote: Okay, thanks for the suggestions, it looks as if I have some good starting points. I'll wrestle with this and hopefully won't have too many annoying questions. Tom --

RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

--On Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:34 AM -0700 Gary Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can contest to that. We get 128 IP's with our T1 and have made multiple request for RDNS. We re-request about every month... Who's the ISP? (Just so the rest of us know who to avoid.) Feel free to cc their

Re: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 11:34:39AM -0700, Gary Smith wrote: > I can contest to that. We get 128 IP's with our T1 and have made multiple > request for RDNS. We re-request about every month... Not to be picky, but this isn't really the right place to discuss whether or not SPF is useful or not.

Re: Cannot write to journal and others

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 13:38:20 -0500 "John Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Check the permissions on the directory /var/.spamassassin I > > believe it should be readable/writeable by all mail processes > > ... by all > > It used to be 0666 - I changed it to 0777 with no effect. Looking > at

RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

I can contest to that. We get 128 IP's with our T1 and have made multiple request for RDNS. We re-request about every month... From: Chris Blaise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 9/7/2004 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 R

Re: 1-Megabyte Spam

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, David B. Funk mused: > On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Nix wrote: > >> On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, David B. Funk stated: >> > If you -know- that the non-binary part is small/moderate, throw it at >> > SA anyway. SA is programmed to skip over binary parts and not even try to >> > scan their content

Re: Cannot write to journal and others

On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:41:15 -0500 "John Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sep 5 13:23:56 Luke spamd[29971]: cannot write to > /var/.spamassassin/bayes_journal, Bayes db update ignored Check the permissions on the directory /var/.spamassassin I believe it should be readable/writeable by all

RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

Hi, On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > In terms of a reverse record, you can only have ONE PTR per ip, on a mail > server that may handle hundreds of domains. SPF is *certainly* valid in > this regard, as sort of a finer-grained PTR. IIRC, you can have multiple PTRs per IP b

Re: Re[2]: *** Please, help to add such a rule

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Menschel writes: >Hello Loren, Mario, >Wednesday, August 25, 2004, 12:39:23 PM, Loren wrote: >LW> The specific rule you asked for would be written as >LW> header SUB_UNDERSCORESSubject =~ /__/ >LW> scoreSUB_UNDERSCORES0.1 >LW> But don't use it, or

RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Chris Blaise wrote: In terms of a reverse record, you can only have ONE PTR per ip, on a mail server that may handle hundreds of domains. SPF is *certainly* valid in this regard, as sort of a finer-grained PTR. -Dan Another reason for SPF/SenderID vs. PTR records is unf

RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

Another reason for SPF/SenderID vs. PTR records is unfortunately while technically possible to delegate, many ISPs don't allow their customers to manage the reverse records. Chris

Re: Bayes Perms

- Original Message - From: "JP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Bayes Perms > > > No, you shouldn't need to re-build them, but try manually changing their > > permissions to 666 and see if that corrects the problem. > > -- > > Well that w

SpamAssassin help

Hello Fellow Users,   When I saw Don's email " How neophytes without mastery of computers can use spamassassin. " I felt that I am someone who is also in Don's shoes.   I am a fairly new person to PCs and do not feel strong enough in knowledge to understand what and how I need to personal

Re: Bayes Perms

> No, you shouldn't need to re-build them, but try manually changing their > permissions to 666 and see if that corrects the problem. > -- Well that was my original solution, but apparently these files (esp. bayes_journal are deleted an re-created over time, hence the bayes_file_mode parameter.

Re: 1-Megabyte Spam

On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Nix wrote: > On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, David B. Funk stated: > > If you -know- that the non-binary part is small/moderate, throw it at > > SA anyway. SA is programmed to skip over binary parts and not even try to > > scan their contents, so no loss of speed. > > Rawbody rules still a

Re: New User, Errors

1) Here is my procmailrc file (is that what you want?) DROPPRIVS=yes LOGFILE=/var/log/procmail.log DROPPRIVS=yes :0fw | /usr/bin/spamassassin :0 * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes $HOME/spam 2) we have actually migrated users over from an old mail server, so yes, some are missing home directories, however, I g

Usability. Spamassassin.

How to use spamassassin explanations have not worked out for people with no mastery of computers. There are neophytes and others not agile with the learning curve unable to use spamassassin. Apparently compiling a list of frequent terms and sorting through the emacs rmail do help a little bit, for

Re: New User, Errors

At 10:34 AM 9/7/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mkdir .: Permission denied at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/Mail/SpamAssassin.pm line 825 procmail: Program failure (70) of "/usr/bin/spamassassin" procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded procmail: default rcfile is not an absolute path What I

RE: Learning the ropes

>-Original Message- >From: William Stearns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:33 AM >To: ML-spamassassin-talk >Cc: ML-spamassassin-talk; William Stearns >Subject: Re: Learning the ropes > > >Good morning, Tom, > >On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Tom wrote: > >> I am tryin

Re: Bayes Perms

On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 10:31:56AM -0400, JP whispered: > > Did you make sure that all your users have write permissions on the > > directory > > itself? Also it doesn't look like the 777 permissions were actually set on > > your > > The directory is set to 777. Do I have to remove/re-build the D

Re: The "definitive" SPF How-to

Daulton, Douglas writes: > > Could someone point me to the definitive SPF how-to? > If there's something better than: http://spf.pobox.com/dns.html I'd be glad to hear about it.

RE: Whois Data Was: GetURI 1.5 Released -- Major additions

> On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Jeff Chan wrote: > > Guys, slightly on the subject of the previous -- has anyone > come across a reliable way to parse WHOIS data? I've found a > minimally supported perl module, but I'm basically looking > for info on domain expiration (and > creation) rather than anythi

RE: Spamd abnormal handling of spamc timeout.

> > What is RFE? > Request For Enhancement d

Re: Learning the ropes

Good morning, Tom, On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, Tom wrote: > I am trying to learn how to implement spamassassin with procmail and > sendmail. I subscribed to the list about a week ago, but haven't > really seen anything that would help me get started with all this, Might I humbly suggest: http:/

RE: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

Spam Admin wrote: >> http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/31/HNspammerstudy_1.html > >> Did you read the end of the article? SPF prevents forgery, not spam. >> It's still valuable even if spammers use it. > > Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but how does this differ > from maintaining valid

New User, Errors

Hi all: I too am brand new to SA, and I'm looking for a how to type of site. I found that starting SA up with the threshold of 5 was way to tight for my ISP mail server running Sendmail. I have had to push it up to 12 till I can figure out how to modify or turn off the default rule sets. Anyone

Re: Bayes Perms

> Did you make sure that all your users have write permissions on the > directory > itself? Also it doesn't look like the 777 permissions were actually set on > your The directory is set to 777. Do I have to remove/re-build the DB files after changing the bayes_file_mode entry? Thanks, JP

Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Setting SpamAssassin scores for SURBL lists

On Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 6:42:05 AM, Chris Santerre wrote: > There is one SARE ninja testing guru that will come online with SURBL when > 3.0 is released. I expect a LOT of testing, because he is addicted to it :) > He's actually been trying to work with another ninja to test for SURBL FPs >

Re: The "definitive" SPF How-to

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daulton, Douglas wrote: | Could someone point me to the definitive SPF how-to? | | Many thanks. | | Doug Daulton | Email Systems Manager | Email Marketing | Graphic Arts | MGM MIRAGE Advertising, Inc. | www.mgmmirage.com | | | http://spf.pobox.com - --

The "definitive" SPF How-to

Could someone point me to the definitive SPF how-to? Many thanks. Doug Daulton Email Systems Manager Email Marketing | Graphic Arts MGM MIRAGE Advertising, Inc. www.mgmmirage.com

RE: Spamd abnormal handling of spamc timeout.

What is RFE? Thanks, Predrag From: "Dallas L. Engelken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Spamd abnormal handling of spamc timeout. Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 08:59:48 -0500 > > Is there a way to make 'spamd' time out? Why doesn't the > timeout of 'spamc' > tell 'spamd' to quit?

Re: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

> http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/08/31/HNspammerstudy_1.html > Did you read the end of the article? SPF prevents forgery, not spam. It's > still valuable even if spammers use it. Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but how does this differ from maintaining valid forward and reverse DNS en

RE: Spamd abnormal handling of spamc timeout.

> > Is there a way to make 'spamd' time out? Why doesn't the > timeout of 'spamc' > tell 'spamd' to quit? Is this a bug or a feature? > > I have made the recommendation of adding a timeout to spamd children several times via bugzilla when fighting spamd problems.. Sidney created a RFE for

Learning the ropes

Hi all, I am trying to learn how to implement spamassassin with procmail and sendmail. I subscribed to the list about a week ago, but haven't really seen anything that would help me get started with all this, since I don't know anything about "bayes" or "ham" or how to write rules or recipes, etc.

Re: How to know what RuleSets are working, easily?

At 08:26 AM 9.7.2004 -0500, Bob Apthorpe wrote: >On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 18:01:40 -0700 Rob Blomquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Wednesday 25 August 2004 5:46 am, Jack L. Stone wrote: >> > At 10:31 PM 8.24.2004 -0700, Loren Wilton wrote: >> > >> > #!/bin/sh >> > >> > DEFFILES="/etc/mail/spam

RE: Spamd abnormal handling of spamc timeout.

> -Original Message- > From: Smart,Dan > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 8:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Spamd abnormal handling of spamc timeout. > > After testing, I find that when 'spamc' times out (-t), it > breaks its connection with 'spamd' and reports back

RE: [SURBL-Discuss] Setting SpamAssassin scores for SURBL lists

*snip* > >Thanks for your stats and checking, and yes please anyone else >with ham corpora, please check for FPs. > There is one SARE ninja testing guru that will come online with SURBL when 3.0 is released. I expect a LOT of testing, because he is addicted to it :) He's actually been trying to wo

Re: How to know what RuleSets are working, easily?

On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 18:01:40 -0700 Rob Blomquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 25 August 2004 5:46 am, Jack L. Stone wrote: > > At 10:31 PM 8.24.2004 -0700, Loren Wilton wrote: > > >> > #!/bin/sh > > >> > DEFFILES="/etc/mail/spamassassin/*.cf" > > >> > GREPSTR="describe" > > >> >

Re: not deleting

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004, George wrote: > > I have a cpanel hosting account with spamassassin where you only have 3 > options on the SA page. I can enable SA, enable a spam box, and then > another button to edit the user_prefs file. > > It works fine when I have spam box enabled but when I disabled

Re: using a global bayesian database?

OK, It looks like I forgot to mention that you also have to change the permissions on your global directory so that it is also world writable. -- Ulysses S. Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If it wasn't for the voices in my head, I'd go insane from loneliness"

Re: not deleting

> I have a cpanel hosting account with spamassassin where you only have 3 > options on the SA page. I can enable SA, enable a spam box, and then > another button to edit the user_prefs file. > > It works fine when I have spam box enabled but when I disabled the spam > box the spam that used t

not deleting

I have a cpanel hosting account with spamassassin where you only have 3 options on the SA page. I can enable SA, enable a spam box, and then another button to edit the user_prefs file. It works fine when I have spam box enabled but when I disabled the spam box the spam that used to go to the

Re: using a global bayesian database?

Actually, it it entirely possible to use a global bayes database if you use procmail. Just add these lines to your /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf file: I don't use procmail, I use postfix with cyrus imap, but postfix can be set up to pipe through spamassassin so that's fine use_bayes

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OT: Whois Data Was: GetURI 1.5 Released -- Major additions

On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Jeff Chan wrote: Guys, slightly on the subject of the previous -- has anyone come across a reliable way to parse WHOIS data? I've found a minimally supported perl module, but I'm basically looking for info on domain expiration (and creation) rather than anything else, as dom

Announce: GetURI 1.5 Released -- Major additions

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Re: SURBL problems

On Monday, September 6, 2004, 5:57:32 PM, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Jeff Chan wrote on Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:56:57 -0700: >> Hang on, that's not a meaningful test since it would be in your >> local resolver cache. >> > First check took 22 msec to get the data from our forwarder. I noticed > that our ns

RE: Spamd abnormal handling of spamc timeout.

After testing, I find that when 'spamc' times out (-t), it breaks its connection with 'spamd' and reports back a ERRORLEVEL 74, IOERR. However, 'spamd' appears to KEEP ON PROCESSING the message, even though the 'spamc' client has quit. When 'spamd' finishes, it reports back to the ./maillog (tw

Re: How to know what RuleSets are working, easily?

On Wednesday 25 August 2004 5:46 am, Jack L. Stone wrote: > At 10:31 PM 8.24.2004 -0700, Loren Wilton wrote: > >> > #!/bin/sh > >> > DEFFILES="/etc/mail/spamassassin/*.cf" > >> > GREPSTR="describe" > >> > > >> > cat $DEFFILES | egrep ^$GREPSTR \ > >> > > >> > | awk '{ print "echo `fgr

Re: SURBL problems

Jeff Chan wrote on Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:56:57 -0700: > Hang on, that's not a meaningful test since it would be in your > local resolver cache. > First check took 22 msec to get the data from our forwarder. I noticed that our nscd isn't running, so I restarted it, although I don't think there shou

Re: SURBL problems

Jeff Chan wrote on Mon, 6 Sep 2004 16:37:35 -0700: > What you describe sounds perhaps like a DNS timeout (which > SA3 may support through your operating system's resolver). > There are currently three SURBL nameservers with problems, > but they're all commented out of the authority for the > subdo