Re: Is Bayes Really Necessary?

2005-06-04 Thread jdow
From: "Chris Santerre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >-Original Message- > >From: Loren Wilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> If that statement is true, perhaps the surbl lists could > >automatically > >>> include the dotquads for hosts that are known to be > >pure spam sources and > >

Re: Worst "Establishment" or "Household Name" Pseudo-Spammers

2005-06-04 Thread Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems)
Robert Menschel said: > Lots of emails from Staples, and as > far as I can tell every one has > been subscribed for. Sounds like you are giving them the "benefit of the doubt"... which is fine. But I don't really think that so many of my clients actually explicity checked "subscribe" somewher

return-path test

2005-06-04 Thread Craig Jackson
I notice that the return-path: is often different from the from: But my return-path: tests all fail. Here's one: header RETPATH_NUMS_CJ Return-path =~ /[0-9]{6,}/ score RETPATH_NUMS_CJ 3.000 It will successfully match From:addr or Reply-To: but Return-path is silent. Yes, I tried Return-Path,

Re: return-path test

2005-06-04 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Craig Jackson wrote: > I notice that the return-path: is often different from the from: > > But my return-path: tests all fail. Here's one: > > header RETPATH_NUMS_CJ Return-path =~ /[0-9]{6,}/ > score RETPATH_NUMS_CJ 3.000 > > It will successfully match From:addr or Reply-To:

Re: Is Bayes Really Necessary?

2005-06-04 Thread List Mail User
>> >[previous stuff snipped] >> >Loren >> >> Loren is correct. And Jeff and I have had this conversation many times. >Jeff >> would rather not risk the FPs by doing it. I can see his point. But I >agree >> with Loren that we have IPs that are pure spam. > >One tiny quibble. For each

Re: Worst "Establishment" or "Household Name" Pseudo-Spammers

2005-06-04 Thread List Mail User
>Robert Menschel said: >> Lots of emails from Staples, and as >> far as I can tell every one has >> been subscribed for. > >Sounds like you are giving them the "benefit of the doubt"... which is fine. > >But I don't really think that so many of my clients actually explicity checked >"subscribe"

Re: Is Bayes Really Necessary?

2005-06-04 Thread Jeff Chan
On Saturday, June 4, 2005, 6:20:11 AM, jdow jdow wrote: > One tiny quibble. For each machine blocked there is perhaps one whole > internal site that is blocked as well. But it means that site is > throwing spam out to the universe and the company doing it or the > individual doing it should stop th

Re: Is Bayes Really Necessary?

2005-06-04 Thread Loren Wilton
> How exactly do we determine what other sites are hosted on a > given server, i.e., sites that don't appear in spams? IOW > how do you know there's "one internal site"? You'ld think that there should be some way to do a reverse DNS to determine from an ip the domains that exist on that ip. I su

Well, sometimes they have an (inadvertant?) sense of humor...

2005-06-04 Thread Loren Wilton
X-Originating-Server: inaccessible.scottishaccommodationindex.com Hey, just what I want! An inaccessible Scottish Accomodation! I'll look one right up on the web! Loren